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sparta6 said:
It's better than Formula E 
It really isn't... Formula E at least features ex-F1 and other top line drivers and not drivers that are so "talented" that they can't even reach F3 and therefore have to take part in the competition for those not good enough to get drives elsewhere so they get a drive in this series because they're a woman. For all of the gimmicks and ridiculous things that Formula E features it can at least pride itself in that is has decent drivers, big name brands and is significant enough to be able to hold events as the headline, as opposed to piggybacking on DTM and F1 in the support race slots and holding a pitiful number of races per year.
Peacockantony said:
sparta6 said:
It's better than Formula E
It really isn't... Formula E at least features ex-F1 and other top line drivers and not drivers that are so "talented" that they can't even reach F3 and therefore have to take part in the competition for those not good enough to get drives elsewhere so they get a drive in this series because they're a woman. For all of the gimmicks and ridiculous things that Formula E features it can at least pride itself in that is has decent drivers, big name brands and is significant enough to be able to hold events as the headline, as opposed to piggybacking on DTM and F1 in the support race slots and holding a pitiful number of races per year.
The "tracks" are also Micky Mouse but the one benefit of city centre events is being able to slip out and do something far more interesting.
Peacockantony said:
It really isn't... Formula E at least features ex-F1 and other top line drivers and not drivers that are so "talented" that they can't even reach F3 and therefore have to take part in the competition for those not good enough to get drives elsewhere so they get a drive in this series because they're a woman.
For all of the gimmicks and ridiculous things that Formula E features it can at least pride itself in that is has decent drivers, big name brands and is significant enough to be able to hold events as the headline, as opposed to piggybacking on DTM and F1 in the support race slots and holding a pitiful number of races per year.
It's a factory supported series and drivers tend to follow the money. No different to ex-F1, F3000 drivers or those who came through F3 jumping into Touring Cars in the 90s.For all of the gimmicks and ridiculous things that Formula E features it can at least pride itself in that is has decent drivers, big name brands and is significant enough to be able to hold events as the headline, as opposed to piggybacking on DTM and F1 in the support race slots and holding a pitiful number of races per year.
Cold said:
Announced today, Jenner Racing.
Olympic star, ex-driver and reality TV personality Caitlyn Jenner will head the Jenner Racing team in 2022.
https://wseries.com/w-hub/caitlyn-jenner-going-for...
With Jamie Chadwick coming back https://twitter.com/WSeriesRacing/status/149612260...Olympic star, ex-driver and reality TV personality Caitlyn Jenner will head the Jenner Racing team in 2022.
https://wseries.com/w-hub/caitlyn-jenner-going-for...
ajprice said:
With Jamie Chadwick coming back https://twitter.com/WSeriesRacing/status/149612260...
It's annoying that she still can't find a drive elsewhere (not F1, that's over-excited MSM b
ks) - I have no idea why an F3 isn't snapping her up, given the general stty back end of that grid.ajprice said:
Cold said:
Announced today, Jenner Racing.
Olympic star, ex-driver and reality TV personality Caitlyn Jenner will head the Jenner Racing team in 2022.
https://wseries.com/w-hub/caitlyn-jenner-going-for...
With Jamie Chadwick coming back https://twitter.com/WSeriesRacing/status/149612260...Olympic star, ex-driver and reality TV personality Caitlyn Jenner will head the Jenner Racing team in 2022.
https://wseries.com/w-hub/caitlyn-jenner-going-for...
JonChalk said:
ajprice said:
With Jamie Chadwick coming back https://twitter.com/WSeriesRacing/status/149612260...
It's annoying that she still can't find a drive elsewhere (not F1, that's over-excited MSM bks) - I have no idea why an F3 isn't snapping her up, given the general stty back end of that grid.Sandpit Steve said:
JonChalk said:
ajprice said:
With Jamie Chadwick coming back https://twitter.com/WSeriesRacing/status/149612260...
It's annoying that she still can't find a drive elsewhere (not F1, that's over-excited MSM bks) - I have no idea why an F3 isn't snapping her up, given the general stty back end of that grid.FourWheelDrift said:
You'd think they agree a Championship winning prize with a sponsor that funds a season of F3 racing wouldn't you, I mean they must have considered it, right.....right......
It's win-win, surely - costs nobody a huge amount, all the media attention the W Series champ brings with it & if it turns out they're not up to it, well the team just shrugs and loses nothing really....."it wasn't our choice.."Without that sort of leg up, almost nobody (make or female) succeeds - look at poor old Piastri - nobody will remember him in a year or two because the next F2 champ (or one after) will be the new hot thing, and Oscar will be forgotten as he's not in any top class series.
JonChalk said:
Didn't Powell have a brief spell in GP3 (as was) years ago?
Yes, she did GP3 in 2012, was the first woman to score a point in that championship, but sadly it was only one point. The WS prize money was $500k for 1st and $250k for 2nd - how much more would they need in sponsorship to run the year in FIA F3 these days?
Surely Couthard could pull strings at R** B*** and make it happen for the top couple of ladies each year, the series loses credibility if the winners don’t graduate.
My money for 2022 W Series is on Abbi Pulling, after a great run at the end of last season. She’s still only 18, and looks most likely to be the next woman in FIA F3.
Catherine Bond Muir on Chadwick's return;
https://www.autosport.com/w-series/news/w-series-c... (wasn't paywalled for me...)
Basically - it's a bit sad (as has been said on this thread) and she needs to be racing.
https://www.autosport.com/w-series/news/w-series-c... (wasn't paywalled for me...)
Basically - it's a bit sad (as has been said on this thread) and she needs to be racing.
fairly certain the series is free to enter, and with a prize fund for the winner of 500k, that's a million dollars Jamies has won. She also has had contracts with Williams, Aston Martin being paid to drive cars, So she's not short of a bob or two. maybe the income she gets has to pay back the costs of earlier series she competed in, may be not, But if you've earned a million dollars, then you have the wherewithal to stump up the cash and fund an F3 drive. But she doesn't want to. Why would that be, and does that tell us something?
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
fairly certain the series is free to enter, and with a prize fund for the winner of 500k, that's a million dollars Jamies has won. She also has had contracts with Williams, Aston Martin being paid to drive cars, So she's not short of a bob or two. maybe the income she gets has to pay back the costs of earlier series she competed in, may be not, But if you've earned a million dollars, then you have the wherewithal to stump up the cash and fund an F3 drive. But she doesn't want to. Why would that be, and does that tell us something?
Pretty sure I saw a RaceFans article a while back suggesting it's probably around $1M a year for an F3 seat, $2M for an F2 seat.Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
fairly certain the series is free to enter, and with a prize fund for the winner of 500k, that's a million dollars Jamies has won. She also has had contracts with Williams, Aston Martin being paid to drive cars, So she's not short of a bob or two. maybe the income she gets has to pay back the costs of earlier series she competed in, may be not, But if you've earned a million dollars, then you have the wherewithal to stump up the cash and fund an F3 drive. But she doesn't want to. Why would that be, and does that tell us something?
Not enough for a season of FIA F3 and the testing required.Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
fairly certain the series is free to enter, and with a prize fund for the winner of 500k, that's a million dollars Jamies has won. She also has had contracts with Williams, Aston Martin being paid to drive cars, So she's not short of a bob or two. maybe the income she gets has to pay back the costs of earlier series she competed in, may be not, But if you've earned a million dollars, then you have the wherewithal to stump up the cash and fund an F3 drive. But she doesn't want to. Why would that be, and does that tell us something?
Yes and no. She has indeed won $1m, but she paid for a half-season in Asian F3 regional thingy, and she’s paying Williams for the test driver role, rather than the other way around. Aston likely gave her a lease on a road car as payment for the drive, and sent her out to get sponsorship. It’s all very expensive to compete in top level motorsport without a benefactor, which is why it’s even more annoying that WS doesn’t partner with one of the FIA F3 teams, or use their own sponsorship income to fund an F3 team of their own, for the top two or three drivers from the previous season.
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