2021 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)

2021 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)

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Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

195 months

Monday 18th January 2021
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Ypres booked, so hoping we can go by August time...Looking forward to the Monte, although it’s the first time in three years I won’t be there frown

rastapasta

1,876 posts

139 months

Monday 18th January 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
Is it me or is Dirtfish now basically Msport news. Very one sided, does Evans live there!!
Maybe Ford put their money into propaganda rather than the rally programme. How much input and money do ford actually put into this?? I've often wondered if MSport managed to pee the blue oval off in some ways by continuously going on about how they are basically privateers.

ArnageWRC

2,074 posts

160 months

Monday 18th January 2021
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rastapasta said:
Maybe Ford put their money into propaganda rather than the rally programme. How much input and money do ford actually put into this?? I've often wondered if M-Sport managed to pee the blue oval off in some ways by continuously going on about how they are basically privateers.
It can't be too much (if any) as they need ££££ drivers, and do far less testing. We're always told they provide technical assistance, and the use of the Ford wind tunnel for aero work. All nice, but no substitute for cold hard £$£$£$£$. Ford don't think the WRC is worth it......

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

195 months

Monday 18th January 2021
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You can tell M-sport are struggling due to them fielding Gus as their number 1 driver...

giveitfish

4,033 posts

215 months

Monday 18th January 2021
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Skylinecrazy said:
Ypres booked, so hoping we can go by August time...Looking forward to the Monte, although it’s the first time in three years I won’t be there frown
I've never been to Ypres but I really want to see one last rally with this generation of cars.

Do you mind saying what you've planned in terms of accommodation etc? How easy is it to get between stages?

Cheers

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

195 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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giveitfish said:
Skylinecrazy said:
Ypres booked, so hoping we can go by August time...Looking forward to the Monte, although it’s the first time in three years I won’t be there frown
I've never been to Ypres but I really want to see one last rally with this generation of cars.

Do you mind saying what you've planned in terms of accommodation etc? How easy is it to get between stages?

Cheers
I have never been to Ypres before but have been to Condroz and other European events.

Most of the stages are based within a few mile of the service park, so it’s very easy to get around. Viewing in Belgium is pretty relaxed as long as you arrive at a stage fairly early.

Accommodation wise, we’ve booked a hotel just under a mile outside Ypres. In Europe a rally is like a festival - the whole local area really gets behind the event.

I’ll miss Wales but rallying really is so much better abroad.

giveitfish

4,033 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Sounds good. Think I’ll need to decide soon, I bet there isn’t that much local accommodation. thumbup

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

195 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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giveitfish said:
Sounds good. Think I’ll need to decide soon, I bet there isn’t that much local accommodation. thumbup
There is, but it books very quickly!

rastapasta

1,876 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Skylinecrazy said:
giveitfish said:
Sounds good. Think I’ll need to decide soon, I bet there isn’t that much local accommodation. thumbup
There is, but it books very quickly!
what he said. you have to remember this is an area which runs some of the big cycling monuments. they are used to heads showing up.

df76

3,650 posts

279 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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Looking forward to this weekend, not long until the opening stages. A miracle that it's running.

Ypres is very tempting. Been to the city several times, but never for the rallying. So easy to get to (once you've managed to get across the channel), it's going to be very popular with Brits. Can imagine that accommodation will be very difficult within the city, but loads of options with easy access to the stages.

giveitfish

4,033 posts

215 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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Skylinecrazy said:
There is, but it books very quickly!
It’s pretty much all gone already. Think I’ll be camping if I go!

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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If you lot can’t make it I’ll take some pictures wink

Interesting interview yesterday with one of the top dogs at WRC.

https://www.autosport.com/fwd/news/154643/wrc-focu...

ArnageWRC

2,074 posts

160 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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Skylinecrazy said:
If you lot can’t make it I’ll take some pictures wink

Interesting interview yesterday with one of the top dogs at WRC.

https://www.autosport.com/fwd/news/154643/wrc-focu...
As is his job, he's making things sound better than they are; "we have strong committed partners in Hyundai, Toyota & M-Sport Ford..." Yet one of them is so committed they need pay drivers.

DelicaL400

517 posts

112 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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ArnageWRC said:
As is his job, he's making things sound better than they are; "we have strong committed partners in Hyundai, Toyota & M-Sport Ford..." Yet one of them is so committed they need pay drivers.
The fact that they're continuing even though they are really struggling shows commitment I think? It would've been much easier to sit out a year a focus resource on next year's car? Anyhow, Gus is in MN saying that pay drivers is a ridiculous assumption!

DangerDoom

289 posts

128 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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Looks like Monte Carlo is going ahead, yes?

Some of the earlier posts on this thread suggested it was going to be cancelled.

rastapasta

1,876 posts

139 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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DelicaL400 said:
ArnageWRC said:
As is his job, he's making things sound better than they are; "we have strong committed partners in Hyundai, Toyota & M-Sport Ford..." Yet one of them is so committed they need pay drivers.
The fact that they're continuing even though they are really struggling shows commitment I think? It would've been much easier to sit out a year a focus resource on next year's car? Anyhow, Gus is in MN saying that pay drivers is a ridiculous assumption!
he has to say that though doesn't he??

df76

3,650 posts

279 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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DangerDoom said:
Looks like Monte Carlo is going ahead, yes?

Some of the earlier posts on this thread suggested it was going to be cancelled.
It starts tomorrow.

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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DelicaL400 said:
ArnageWRC said:
As is his job, he's making things sound better than they are; "we have strong committed partners in Hyundai, Toyota & M-Sport Ford..." Yet one of them is so committed they need pay drivers.
The fact that they're continuing even though they are really struggling shows commitment I think? It would've been much easier to sit out a year a focus resource on next year's car? Anyhow, Gus is in MN saying that pay drivers is a ridiculous assumption!
What does it show their customers if they sit out for a year? Better they be out competing.

WRC should have gone an ‘R5+’ route, then we’d have 5-6 manufactures. Saying that, the ‘17 cars are bloody awesome.

Allyc85

Original Poster:

7,225 posts

187 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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df76 said:
It starts tomorrow.

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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Cannot bloody wait now. Will hide in the office tomorrow and watch the first two stages.

Anyone brave enough for predictions?

1: Seb
2: Elfyn
3: Neuville

Greensmith to bin it..