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Had Loeb not won the Swedish, I'd have agreed with some of the sentiments expressed above. But of all the rallies, perhaps this one is truer to its roots - after all, a snowy stage is a snowy stage...
It's a bit like saying Schumacher doesn't deserve his status as perhaps the best driver ever to grace F1 because he didn't drive on the old 'Ring, or tame a 1200 bhp Williams Honda.
Excellent thread isn't it? Lots of valid comments and very interesting
It's a bit like saying Schumacher doesn't deserve his status as perhaps the best driver ever to grace F1 because he didn't drive on the old 'Ring, or tame a 1200 bhp Williams Honda.
Excellent thread isn't it? Lots of valid comments and very interesting
rubystone said:
Had Loeb not won the Swedish, I'd have agreed with some of the sentiments expressed above. But of all the rallies, perhaps this one is truer to its roots - after all, a snowy stage is a snowy stage...
I see what you mean - the Swedish and the Finnish are the last two great rallies left. We'll see after the Finnish next month...
I still think Gronholm has a speed advantage over Loeb, but he has to push so hard these days that he makes mistakes. Unfortunately he also makes a lot of schoolboy errors, which have dented his reputation over the last couple of seasons.
Thinking of great rally drivers, that Tommi Makinen fellow was fairly handy, as I rememeber.
rubystone said:
I think that Gronholm's errors have come with him needing to totally animal the car to get anything out of it - leaving nothing in reserve. He is a brilliant driver (as all the WRC drivers are).
Agreed...anyone who saw Gronholm in the 206 will realise what he's capable of in a good car...and I echo the comments above that say it's his skill alone that's giving Peugeot podiums with the 307.
There are three "GREAT" WRC drivers at the moment - Loeb, Gronholm, Solberg. Everyone else is just playing for 4th place. Is any of them as great as the legends of the past? Mikkula, Rorhl, Makkinen? Perhaps. I think all 3 are close...but can't really be sure, cars and character of rallies are too different now.
D_Mike said:
What you need to do is look at wins against races, excluding races where the driver didn't finish due to mechanical failiure.
Easy........
1.Ascari = 76.5%
2.Fangio = 54.6%
3.Clark = 53.2%
4.Schumacher = 47.5%
5.Stewart = 45.7%
6.Senna = 43.6%
7.Prost = 36.9%
8.Lauda = 35.2%
9.Hakkinen = 31.0%
10.Brabham = 27.2%
11.Piquet = 19.6%
12.Fittipaldi = 19.4%
13.Hill,G = 14.1%
aeropilot said:
What you need to do is look at wins against races, excluding races where the driver didn't finish due to mechanical failiure.
Easy........
1.Ascari = 76.5%
2.Fangio = 54.6%
3.Clark = 53.2%
4.Schumacher = 47.5%
5.Stewart = 45.7%
6.Senna = 43.6%
7.Prost = 36.9%
8.Lauda = 35.2%
9.Hakkinen = 31.0%
10.Brabham = 27.2%
11.Piquet = 19.6%
12.Fittipaldi = 19.4%
13.Hill,G = 14.1%
Now I know where "Statto" from Fantasy Football went to
rubystone said:
Blah blah blah, stats stats stats
Now I know where "Statto" from Fantasy Football went to
I now have images of aeropilot being overweight, greasy-haired and tragically dressed...but this time wearing flying goggles instead of round specs!!! Thankfully the coffee was on the desk when i read it. (Apologies to a-p...it's all ruby's fault, honest!!!)
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