Btcc 2015

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Cyder

7,072 posts

222 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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I've enjoyed the last couple of pages! hehe

emicen

8,606 posts

220 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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HQ2 said:
It looked like it was going to be a BTCC bit of news from the tweet, but no harm done really! Unless anyone else wants to sit glued to social media for snippets of info and copy paste st you've already seen on tentenths/twitter in to this thread searching for admiration as some form of BTCC bible, you should cut him some slack.

MG CHRIS said:
I didn't actually say motorbase set there btcc news tomorrow all I said was news from motorbase tomorrow.
Which could of been anything which is was.

If other want to read something else into it then I couldn't give a flying fk tbh.
Fixed that for you.

Smelly Sox

76 posts

113 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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laugh Spot on!

(you've fugged the quotes though)

cupofbeans

1,631 posts

177 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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I remember I used to wind someone up before by posting false news and rumours on one forum, then he copied and pasted it to somewhere else trying to look like he had a scoop and ended up looking like a numpty. biggrin

emicen

8,606 posts

220 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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So moving on [with some actual discussion];

Ciceley/Laser Mercs, BMR, 888, Eurotech, Motorbase - lots of testing action appears to be going on.

Team Dynamics - still building the cars, been using last years cars for some testing. They've been here before and still managed to come straight out swinging.

Houseman, RAR, Welch, HARD, Infiniti - from what I've seen, pretty much MIA. So are they testing under the radar or really just doing nothing.

greeny12

306 posts

221 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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emicen said:
So moving on

Houseman, RAR, Welch, HARD, Infiniti - from what I've seen, pretty much MIA. So are they testing under the radar or really just doing nothing.
Paras team have been testing all over the place... just nobody has seen them due to the camouflage like...

btcclee

27 posts

130 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Rumours started circulating a couple of days ago that Motorbase are in serious trouble, with no Mat Jackson and possibly no BTCC entry. Could be a wind up but seems to have a lot of backing.

greeny12

306 posts

221 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Rumours had some grounding, clearly:

https://www.facebook.com/motorbaseperformance/post...

Henry Fiddleton

1,582 posts

179 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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That's a shame - they are out till at least mid season, and even then sounds very bleak.

Hope they get some sponsorship - my local team as well.


Munter

31,319 posts

243 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Could be interesting to see what happens with their licences. Is there anybody stood in the wings waiting for the opportunity to snap them up? Would Gow sell them if there is, or would he keep Motorbases TBLs in his pocket?

reaper668

495 posts

211 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Not looking good. Hopefully Motorbase can bounce back in the second half of the season. If they do come back at all.

AndyAlfa18

52 posts

127 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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The team "isn't in trouble" as mentioned. Ok, the BTCC effort may be scaled down for now - but the GT part of the team, with 2 or 3 GT3's operating in British GT and Blancpain Endurance, is booming.

A disappointment for BTCC fans I'm sure, but us GT fans are lucky enough to see the team race all across Europe & doing their stuff in the unique Dave Bartrum way.

designndrive62

744 posts

159 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Just gone on autosport too

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118093

shame to see such a long lasting and well supported team potentially disappear from btcc. is the bubble bursting and the realization that the NGTC cars aren't actually all that cheap and the one size fits all solution Alan Gow claims it to be?

DanielSan

18,865 posts

169 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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designndrive62 said:
Just gone on autosport too

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118093

shame to see such a long lasting and well supported team potentially disappear from btcc. is the bubble bursting and the realization that the NGTC cars aren't actually all that cheap and the one size fits all solution Alan Gow claims it to be?
They just haven't got a sponsor. It's good to jump to a dramatic idea instead though I suppose...

jamiebae

6,245 posts

213 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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DanielSan said:
designndrive62 said:
Just gone on autosport too

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118093

shame to see such a long lasting and well supported team potentially disappear from btcc. is the bubble bursting and the realization that the NGTC cars aren't actually all that cheap and the one size fits all solution Alan Gow claims it to be?
They just haven't got a sponsor. It's good to jump to a dramatic idea instead though I suppose...
Indeed.

BTCC has an issue with attracting sponsors and demonstrating VFM for those who invest in the series and this is a good example. Their GT business is doing well because drivers pay for the drives, but with BTCC costing more money to be competitive than GTs it's a tough sell for 'gentleman racers' unless they really want to be on TV.

Personally, I'd change the format to two races instead of three, and reduce the TV coverage so you watch race 1 delayed, then race 2 live and don't have to wade through hours of support races which only the die-hards are interested in.

VictoriaYorks

977 posts

144 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Gutted - don't know what else to say

AMD87

2,004 posts

204 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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MG CHRIS

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9,092 posts

169 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Sad news with motorbase 2 top end car not being able to run. No matt Jackson or cole until half way through even if they do turn up. Im surprised they were allowed a tbl without the founding in place which was the reason the tbl in the first place was to stop teams saying they be there but not turning up.

Good to see the s3 back but nick Hamilton wasn't that impressive in clios a few years back so not so sure he really deserves to be on the grid but lets see.

Seen the pics of the audi could be new model from them bonnets looks different from the a4.

andybracing

157 posts

175 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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emicen]So moving on [with some actual discussion said:
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Ciceley/Laser Mercs, BMR, 888, Eurotech, Motorbase - lots of testing action appears to be going on.

Team Dynamics - still building the cars, been using last years cars for some testing. They've been here before and still managed to come straight out swinging.

Houseman, RAR, Welch, HARD, Infiniti - from what I've seen, pretty much MIA. So are they testing under the radar or really just doing nothing.
Don't forget testing costs as much as racing so maybe they are saving their budgets until it matters

emicen

8,606 posts

220 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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andybracing said:
emicen said:
Ciceley/Laser Mercs, BMR, 888, Eurotech, Motorbase - lots of testing action appears to be going on.

Team Dynamics - still building the cars, been using last years cars for some testing. They've been here before and still managed to come straight out swinging.

Houseman, RAR, Welch, HARD, Infiniti - from what I've seen, pretty much MIA. So are they testing under the radar or really just doing nothing.
Don't forget testing costs as much as racing so maybe they are saving their budgets until it matters
At that level you build testing budget in to your all up budget. Without testing, you won't be competitive, you won't keep sponsors happy rolling round at the back tripping up over stupid issues that should have been found testing.

Even in competitive club racing series, you can't hope to be in the mix just rocking up on race day and throwing some new rubber on. Never mind if you've made fundamental car changes, got a new engine supplier, whole new car etc