No motorsport in the UK until July

[MG CHRIS]

andy97 said:

MG CHRIS said:

Even more weird wec announced its revised calander with no wec rd in Silverstone this year.

Just heard that, how odd. Mind you, the British GP hasn’t yet been postponed/re-arranged and there is still potential for that.

jurbie said:

Yep, the Silverstone website shows WEC as cancelled and the CSCC round going ahead.

I hope that CSCC have already booked Anglesey instead!!!!

There is no way in hell the british gp is going ahead in july and tbh cant see f1 starting back up this year.

[aeropilot]

MG CHRIS said:

There is no way in hell the british gp is going ahead in july and tbh cant see f1 starting back up this year.

I would agree with both of those comments.

[ChevronB19]

HSCC, Masters and HMV looking at combining meetings for later in the year (if the situation allows)

https://hscc.org.uk/hscc-masters-and-hvm-to-work-t...

[anonymous-user]

ChevronB19 said:

HSCC, Masters and HMV looking at combining meetings for later in the year (if the situation allows)

https://hscc.org.uk/hscc-masters-and-hvm-to-work-t...

It's something that has been done for many years already, with events like the Silverstone Classic running races for HSCC and Masters, same with other events also.

What we might see that is different, is they might combine the races from various series into a single race for that class of car. So you could have tin tops from both series racing together, whereas normally they run seperate races to their own rules.

A race for the F1 and F5000 cars combined could be fun, and very period at that.

[TheDeuce]

Pissing hell. I just found this thread, started reading through and find it's already been infected by LucyP!!

Anyway, assuming lock down measures are phased out mid to late may... Then allowing time to get things organised for motorsport and sell tickets etc, July would indeed be the earliest realistic date to get at least some series back up and running in some capacity.

It could also be the case that other countries ahead of the UK see a strong second wave and our world could subsequently be on pause for even longer.. who can know? But as a realistic best case scenario, I think July is sensible based on how things appear to be moving.

[anonymous-user]

TheDeuce said:

Pissing hell. I just found this thread, started reading through and find it's already been infected by LucyP!!

Anyway, assuming lock down measures are phased out mid to late may... Then allowing time to get things organised for motorsport and sell tickets etc, July would indeed be the earliest realistic date to get at least some series back up and running in some capacity.

It could also be the case that other countries ahead of the UK see a strong second wave and our world could subsequently be on pause for even longer.. who can know? But as a realistic best case scenario, I think July is sensible based on how things appear to be moving.

I think that is incredibly optimistic.

[TheDeuce]

jsf said:

TheDeuce said:

Pissing hell. I just found this thread, started reading through and find it's already been infected by LucyP!!

Anyway, assuming lock down measures are phased out mid to late may... Then allowing time to get things organised for motorsport and sell tickets etc, July would indeed be the earliest realistic date to get at least some series back up and running in some capacity.

It could also be the case that other countries ahead of the UK see a strong second wave and our world could subsequently be on pause for even longer.. who can know? But as a realistic best case scenario, I think July is sensible based on how things appear to be moving.

I think that is incredibly optimistic.

I agree. That's why I said it's the 'earliest' realistic date - assuming things go as well as they possibly can.

If you'd like to know my personal expectation... I think it'll be a mad race to put 'something' together towards the end of summer for most series. And that something will probably be more of a token offering than anything that could be considered an official season.

In terms of motorsport, life in general, my own business... I'm basically wiping out 2020 and bracing for 3-5 years of after effects.

[ginettajoe]

In terms of motorsport, life in general, my own business... I'm basically wiping out 2020 and bracing for 3-5 years of after effects.


That, in my opinion, would not be far from reality! Life on Earth is definitely in for a change, because this is the reset button!

[anonymous-user]

TheDeuce said:

I agree. That's why I said it's the 'earliest' realistic date - assuming things go as well as they possibly can.

If you'd like to know my personal expectation... I think it'll be a mad race to put 'something' together towards the end of summer for most series. And that something will probably be more of a token offering than anything that could be considered an official season.

In terms of motorsport, life in general, my own business... I'm basically wiping out 2020 and bracing for 3-5 years of after effects.

I really haven't a clue where we will land after this, what we do for a living and what you guys spectating see, is the result of a significant burn of money. All that is optional fun money for most people racing.

It's going to depend on things we don't yet know the answer to, maybe in 3 months we will understand where we are heading.

I ordered myself a chair and side table for the garden today.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 4th April 22:40

[TheDeuce]

jsf said:

I really haven't a clue where we will land after this, what we do for a living and what you guys spectating see, is the result of a significant burn of money. All that is optional fun money for most people racing.

It's going to depend on things we don't yet know the answer too, maybe in 3 months we will understand where we are heading.

Quite. I do think it's fair to say that in July, as things stand, we will perhaps see some motorsport return in a limited capacity.

Behind the scenes I have no doubt it's a horrendous mess, same as most other industries. The fact that motorsport relies upon sponsorship means that it's also weakened by any sponsor from any industry also effected. Any sport reliant on sponsorship is effectively scaled by how the economy in general stands - and the economy is currently fked.

On the positive side however... Any racing that does happen, is in the end, still racing. Regardless of the mess behind the scenes, on the day, a race is a race.

[TheDeuce]

ginettajoe said:

In terms of motorsport, life in general, my own business... I'm basically wiping out 2020 and bracing for 3-5 years of after effects.


That, in my opinion, would not be far from reality! Life on Earth is definitely in for a change, because this is the reset button!

A reset in a good way perhaps. I've noticed that during the current limited contact with others in the outside world, most people are being far friendlier and keen to share a few polite words.

A big hit to capitalism but also a big boost for being human

As for racing, that's obviously a capitalist enterprise these days, but also appeals on a very human level. So I guess people might appreciate it upon return more than ever - but the sports management might have to find ways of scaling back a little. Which to be fair, they already appear to be exploring.

Edited by TheDeuce on Saturday 4th April 22:54

[anonymous-user]

TheDeuce said:

Quite. I do think it's fair to say that in July, as things stand, we will perhaps see some motorsport return in a limited capacity.

Behind the scenes I have no doubt it's a horrendous mess, same as most other industries. The fact that motorsport relies upon sponsorship means that it's also weakened by any sponsor from any industry also effected. Any sport reliant on sponsorship is effectively scaled by how the economy in general stands - and the economy is currently fked.

On the positive side however... Any racing that does happen, is in the end, still racing. Regardless of the mess behind the scenes, on the day, a race is a race.

The vast majority of racing is funded from the private purse of the competitor, not through sponsorship.

[TheDeuce]

jsf said:

The vast majority of racing is funded from the private purse of the competitor, not through sponsorship.

I'm talking about mainstream racing series. In respect of the topic posted, essentially the stuff we can enjoy on the TV.

That's not to say I don't also have time for local and club race meets.

[anonymous-user]

TheDeuce said:

I'm talking about mainstream racing series. In respect of the topic posted, essentially the stuff we can enjoy on the TV.

That's not to say I don't also have time for local and club race meets.

So am I. For example all the racing in historic racing is privately funded, there isn't any sponsorship for competitors. All the Goodwood events, Silverstone Classic etc.

[TheDeuce]

jsf said:

TheDeuce said:

I'm talking about mainstream racing series. In respect of the topic posted, essentially the stuff we can enjoy on the TV.

That's not to say I don't also have time for local and club race meets.

So am I. For example all the racing in historic racing is privately funded, there isn't any sponsorship for competitors. All the Goodwood events, Silverstone Classic etc.

I get that, and I know you're involved. But in the spirit of this thread, we're talking about mainstream racing series. And the mainstream, major series these days are heavily sponsor funded with the balance accounted for via TV rights. In addition to whatever private money goes in.

[Nampahc Niloc]

TheDeuce said:

jsf said:

TheDeuce said:

I'm talking about mainstream racing series. In respect of the topic posted, essentially the stuff we can enjoy on the TV.

That's not to say I don't also have time for local and club race meets.

So am I. For example all the racing in historic racing is privately funded, there isn't any sponsorship for competitors. All the Goodwood events, Silverstone Classic etc.

I get that, and I know you're involved. But in the spirit of this thread, we're talking about mainstream racing series. And the mainstream, major series these days are heavily sponsor funded with the balance accounted for via TV rights. In addition to whatever private money goes in.

My take on this thread was it applied to all racing. Though there is now a club racing thread as well.

[Drumroll]

Nampahc Niloc said:

TheDeuce said:

jsf said:

TheDeuce said:

I'm talking about mainstream racing series. In respect of the topic posted, essentially the stuff we can enjoy on the TV.

That's not to say I don't also have time for local and club race meets.

So am I. For example all the racing in historic racing is privately funded, there isn't any sponsorship for competitors. All the Goodwood events, Silverstone Classic etc.

I get that, and I know you're involved. But in the spirit of this thread, we're talking about mainstream racing series. And the mainstream, major series these days are heavily sponsor funded with the balance accounted for via TV rights. In addition to whatever private money goes in.

My take on this thread was it applied to all racing. Though there is now a club racing thread as well.

Have to agree the title of the thread is no motorsport in the UK. To me that means anything from auto tests, rallies, drag racing, 12 cars as well as all circuit racing from the small club racing to the national and international events.

[TheDeuce]

Fair enough chaps, the thread and in fact the posted article is about all motorsport.

In terms of motorsport being affected post lockdown, I think the mainstream series will be effected in terms of both cash and organisation for a period after lockdown. This will likely instigate some changes.

In terms of local/club, and other privately funded motorsport events, no reason they can't 'carry on as normal' once lockdown is lifted. Albeit also at the mercy of a general public that might be a little poorer for a while.

[Drumroll]

TheDeuce said:

Fair enough chaps, the thread and in fact the posted article is about all motorsport.

In terms of motorsport being affected post lockdown, I think the mainstream series will be effected in terms of both cash and organisation for a period after lockdown. This will likely instigate some changes.

In terms of local/club, and other privately funded motorsport events, no reason they can't 'carry on as normal' once lockdown is lifted. Albeit also at the mercy of a general public that might be a little poorer for a while.

Clubs get none of gate money so the number of spectators is irrelevant.
For the clubs one of the problems will be trying to see if they can get enough entries to make a meeting pay.
I am concerned that some clubs are already talking about rescheduling events without really talking to each other.

[TheDeuce]

Drumroll said:

Clubs get none of gate money so the number of spectators is irrelevant.
For the clubs one of the problems will be trying to see if they can get enough entries to make a meeting pay.
I am concerned that some clubs are already talking about rescheduling events without really talking to each other.

That's my core point really. Just about anything in our normal lives is likely to be affected on some level post pandemic.

Privately funded meets at least just need folk to find the cash to carry on, whereas major sports need to find ways of getting the show back on the road amid various bodies losing hundreds of millions of expected revenue along with all the legal bickering over cancelled events etc. Most major sports have basically gotten too big, too expensive to cope when external factors mean that the pause button gets pressed for 6 months.

Edited by TheDeuce on Sunday 5th April 09:54

Edited by TheDeuce on Sunday 5th April 09:56