When Max Mosley was arrested:
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rustybin said:
Now that does sound interesting. Go on, do tell.
My original post on this thread has already stirred up more than I intended. Also, the chap who told me this and to whom it happened is still involved in motorsport and thus could be vulnerable, if you know what I mean.
Let's just say that the anecdote involved someone's breaking his word within thirty minutes of having given it, then contriving a way to make use of another person's very valuable property against the explicit wishes of that person, and much later returning the property in unusable condition.
I'm not offended or wound up. The information is interesting. I'm not even that bothered about Formula 1 or the FIA.
The reason I find it interesting, is that I see this situation as a parallel of many others. It seems to me that my life is increasingly upset by what I could describe as "Little Hitlers". I can't say why they now are evident in a way that they were not 10 years ago.
They seem to undermine everyone, but unlike me, most people don't seem to mind. When I learned a while ago that someone who doesn't affect me in an immediate sense, but does seem to fit the category, actually had such characteristics explicity as his background, it sparked my sense of human interest.
It's an interesting piece of information that fits with a wider theme. It might be a stereotype, but they're not always wrong. Associatve search is a key element of the learning process!
The reason I find it interesting, is that I see this situation as a parallel of many others. It seems to me that my life is increasingly upset by what I could describe as "Little Hitlers". I can't say why they now are evident in a way that they were not 10 years ago.
They seem to undermine everyone, but unlike me, most people don't seem to mind. When I learned a while ago that someone who doesn't affect me in an immediate sense, but does seem to fit the category, actually had such characteristics explicity as his background, it sparked my sense of human interest.
It's an interesting piece of information that fits with a wider theme. It might be a stereotype, but they're not always wrong. Associatve search is a key element of the learning process!
I don't want to be shot down in flames for inflaming an already contentious thread, but I heard a rumour - which I haven't been able to substantiate - that BE sank even lower in later life and became a second hand car salesman.
Fascism was rife in the East End before and after the Second World War, as was racism. It was the norm. Including the Irish I would like to point out. The odd thing was that so-called left-wing union officials at a printing firm I worked for organised an evening out to see, and support, Enoch Powell after his Rivers of Blood speech. And Nocker was about as right-wing as you could get. He once recommended that the Government should try for seven million unemployed to reduced wages to a minimum. Luckily no Prime Minister put this into effect. No male PM that is.
I wouldn’t blame a son for supporting, let alone defending, his father. But becoming a second hand car dealer, now that is unforgivable.
Fascism was rife in the East End before and after the Second World War, as was racism. It was the norm. Including the Irish I would like to point out. The odd thing was that so-called left-wing union officials at a printing firm I worked for organised an evening out to see, and support, Enoch Powell after his Rivers of Blood speech. And Nocker was about as right-wing as you could get. He once recommended that the Government should try for seven million unemployed to reduced wages to a minimum. Luckily no Prime Minister put this into effect. No male PM that is.
I wouldn’t blame a son for supporting, let alone defending, his father. But becoming a second hand car dealer, now that is unforgivable.
Edited by Derek Smith on Wednesday 2nd August 22:26
pwig said:
Moseley, love him or hate him as done many good things for the sport. He was behind the introduction of the EuroNcap saftey tests for cars for instance.
Indeed. But why? And is it really a good thing?
EuroNcap seems to me to look like the thin end of a wedge. The fearmongered safety focus, offered to the Eurocrats on a plate with no cost to them (except a few honours for the person who 'runs' the parent organiser) would be very difficult to criticise without being accused of lack of care about road safety.
But now that just about everything gets 5 stars if it has the right warning labels in the right places in 5 languages and all cars in any suggested category are the same shape, often coming from the same factory, what exactly is its purpose?
There are suggestions that cars are not engineered to succeed at high scores in the Ncap tests irrespective of the potential for other, more beneficial, engineering benefits, including safety.
Cars get heavier, bigger (have you really SEEN just how big a super-mini is these days?) and ever more complex chasing certain ideals which just possibly are heading up a blind alley. All because one organisation has established a monopoly about the moral highground for road safety design. An organisation very much in the control of one person and therefore the ideas that that person finds appealing, for whatever purpose.
Does no one else think it is odd that as the Eastern Block 'no choices' countries moved out of the single collectives of communism the western societies seem to have moved towards a reduction of competition and choice? So much so that our UK government is now able to bang on about 'choices' as if they meant it and they was something new.
We should always question motives, even when they seem to be as pure as fresh snow - which, if course, may not be pure at all.
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