RE: Rod Millen to drive Pikes Peak Toyota
RE: Rod Millen to drive Pikes Peak Toyota
Thursday 9th May 2013

Rod Millen to drive Pikes Peak Toyota

Caution: contains spoilers. Massive ones, front and rear.



The announcement that Seb Loeb will take a break from his continued domination of his final WRC season to drive at Pikes Peak this year has sparked plenty of interest in America's foremost hillclimb challenge. And now that Peak veteran Monster Tajima has revealed that he’ll be going back to petrol power this year after an ill-fated dabble in the EV category, his main rival Rod Millen’s job has been made a little easier.

Millen's old rival Tajima will be petrol-powered
Millen's old rival Tajima will be petrol-powered
61-year-old New Zealander Millen, whose son Rhys set the course record last year in the Time Attack category, will pilot an updated version of the Radical-based Toyota EV P002 in which Fumio Nutahara took the record for an electric vehicle in2012. Some of the updates are under the skin, such as the beefier electric motors and tweaked powertrain; others – we’re looking at the ruddy great spoiler Toyota Motorsport GmbH has planted on the nosecone here – are a tad more obvious.

Those new motors chuck out a total of 544hp and a not-inconsiderable 884lb ft torque, a rather healthy increase over the 476hp and 664lb ft of last year's car. And while those extra aerodynamics will drop top speed from 149mph to 143mph, Toyota’s confident of success, citing the fact that TMG’s ability to adjust the powertrain’s operating parameters  from track to track allowed the EV P002 to improve on its 2011 Nurburgring lap record by over 25 seconds in just a year. Were the same sort of margin to be applied to the Pikes Peak course, it could potentially see Millen in the running not just to break Nutahara’s 10min15.38sec electric course record, but potentially to challenge his son’s 9min46.146sec overall record too. If it wasn’t close at the top before, then, it certainly is now!

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AJ-T

Original Poster:

331 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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Getting hit by this would 'spoil' your day!

patmahe

5,918 posts

233 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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Interesting to see the shift in design now that the course is mostly (maybe even all?) asphalt.

RenesisEvo

3,826 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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I would not be surprised to see the outright record eventually being held by an electric car - the reducing air density as you go up the climb dramatically reduces the available power to petrol/diesel cars, even with forced induction. Whereas the electric cars will be able to generate the same power/torque at the top as at the bottom.

Tajima's machine - is that a GT86-a-like? (it probably still won't have enough power for some tongue out)

Draexin

147 posts

199 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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patmahe said:
Interesting to see the shift in design now that the course is mostly (maybe even all?) asphalt.
I love the Group B style cars that the asphalt/gravel combination required.
LMP's are great and all, but there's something about silhouette racers that brings out the 8 year old in me biggrin

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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RenesisEvo said:
I would not be surprised to see the outright record eventually being held by an electric car - the reducing air density as you go up the climb dramatically reduces the available power to petrol/diesel cars, even with forced induction. Whereas the electric cars will be able to generate the same power/torque at the top as at the bottom.

Tajima's machine - is that a GT86-a-like? (it probably still won't have enough power for some tongue out)
How about a petrol engined car up to 5,000 feet and then booster rockets smile

P4ROT

1,219 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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Reminds me of the Mclaren M4C

marshall100

1,124 posts

230 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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One of the last few wonders of motorsport, is it available to watch on tv anywhere?

lindrup119

1,235 posts

172 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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AJ-T said:
Getting hit by this would 'spoil' your day!
redcard

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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marshall100 said:
One of the last few wonders of motorsport, is it available to watch on tv anywhere?
Was also wondering ... http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/04/pikes-p...

Cotty

42,215 posts

313 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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patmahe said:
Interesting to see the shift in design now that the course is mostly (maybe even all?) asphalt.
Yes but they all still have massive wings on them.

chuntington101

5,733 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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P4ROT said:
Reminds me of the Mclaren M4C
Looks more like a Radical SR3 to me!

dtrump

2,126 posts

220 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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Loeb will be fastest by an easy 30+ secs

He just will

David1976

76 posts

178 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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This year's Pike's Peak looks like it is going to be one awesome show.

I really hope there is some decent video coverage this year, preferably in HD (on board and otherwise).

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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RenesisEvo said:
Tajima's machine - is that a GT86-a-like? (it probably still won't have enough power for some tongue out)
PH reckons 670hp, which is "might as well get out and push" by Pikes Peak standards.

urquattro

755 posts

215 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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One of the last events that seem to stick two fingers up to health and safety etc. cop
Wish it was in UK somewhere, think we would all be there.
Can we borrow a mountain here from someone.

fatboy18

19,553 posts

240 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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14,110 feet high Its a bloody big mountain!

Ive been lucky enough to drive it, (as a tourist back in 1981) The drivers have got to have a large pair as well as the Wings! wink

canucklehead

416 posts

175 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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oh lord help me, but i love pikes peak - one of my bucket list items to see. the last bastion of no rules, no limits, just build the fastest car - yeah! somewhat surprising it survives in the US of A, home of the lawsuit, but let's be thankful it does survive.

and good luck to millen sr, millen jr, takshima-san, monsieur loeb and all the other hairy-chested drivers who will take on the challenge.

canucklehead

416 posts

175 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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oops. my bad - tajima-san is what i meant to type.

sorry, mr monster.

chevronb37

6,472 posts

215 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Rod Millen is such a total legend. I used to have a photo of his PPIHC Celica on my wall when I was a kid. I couldn't believe it when they brought the Celica over to Goodwood for the first time. Absolute goosebumps when I first saw it out on the hill. Vividly recall the way it would bob and duck and weave under braking and acceleration - it was so accelerative that dynamically it looked like a radio controlled car. Crazy.

When they brought the Tacoma over for the first time Millen was kind enough to talk me through it. He was just such a charming guy and we had a fascinating chat about how yaw angles affected ground effect, etc. That kind of interaction is what turns respect into idolism. I was mortified when he stuffed it coming out of Molcomb a couple of years later, but at least the main man escaped uninjured.

This year's PPIHC is shaping up to be mega. Loeb seems astounded by the performance of the 208. I wonder if they'll get that little pairing to the FoS this year...