Is this the end for Ron???

[CiderwithCerbie]

Caught cheating (?)
Poor handling of team and World champ
Mess up Lewis' race in China - admitted :
Didn't give Hamilton the correct pre-rac pep-talk? [Lewis' race start reminded me of Gazza in the '91 Cup Final, fizzing with aggression and ending up on a stretcher]

Everything in the bag weeks ago and totally allowed to slip through their (his?) fingers. If I was in charge of Mercedes or a big McLaren sponsor I would now be asking some very awkward questions (regardless of FIA bias real or imagined).

[CiderwithCerbie]

stew-S160 said:

this thread is stupid.

No - you might argue my hypothesis is stupid - but my contention is that this is a VERY commercialised sport and hence this kind of high level failure can usually cost jobs - cf. Northern Rock
The thread is an inanimate method of exchanging ideas - Stoopid!

[CiderwithCerbie]

flemke said:

CiderwithCerbie said:

No - you might argue my hypothesis is stupid - but my contention is that this is a VERY commercialised sport and hence this kind of high level failure can usually cost jobs - cf. Northern Rock
The thread is an inanimate method of exchanging ideas - Stoopid!

I suspect that he might have an issue with the Spanish sponsors, although that would be influenced by whether Alonso stayed or went.
The other sponsors, I daresay, are thrilled to bits that they got more eyeball hits this year than they ever could have imagined, with the prospect of big coverage via Hamilton for the foreseeable future.
WRT the FIA stuff, I would bet that the way things unfolded more engendered support from the sponsors than it would have caused frictions.

Cheers.

Thank you for something intelligent, informed and well argued. My retort would be that they (sponsors) might have been expecting a real bean feast after a LH World championship and through little fault of his the opportunity has been thrown away.
[Declaration of interest - Schumacher Hater, Natural McLaren supporter disgruntled with the last two months BS on & off the track, but Half-Finnish and therefore not unhappy with the WC final result! I know just a bit Schizo...]

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NightDriver said:

CiderwithCerbie said:

Caught cheating (?)

Pretty difficult to pin that solely on him IF it was cheating

CiderwithCerbie said:

Poor handling of team and World champ

How did he handle it poorly?? Alonso acted like a child and Ron just ignored him and carried on giving him the best equipment for him to do his job.

CiderwithCerbie said:

Mess up Lewis' race in China - admitted :

Ron doesnt make strategy decisions. He will always take on the public blame for the team but the real people at fault in that were Lewis' engineers.

CiderwithCerbie said:

Didn't give Hamilton the correct pre-rac pep-talk? [Lewis' race start reminded me of Gazza in the '91 Cup Final, fizzing with aggression and ending up on a stretcher

I doubt Ron said much to Lewis at all. Lewis knew what he needed to do, he had a lot of advice from a lot of people. At the end of the day whatever people say to him its still down to Lewis as the driver to get the job done.

CiderwithCerbie said:

Everything in the bag weeks ago and totally allowed to slip through their (his?) fingers. If I was in charge of Mercedes or a big McLaren sponsor I would now be asking some very awkward questions (regardless of FIA bias real or imagined).

It was never 'in the bag'. The teams shortfalls cant be pinned on Ron. He didnt make Hamilton drive into the gravel and he didnt cause his gearbox trouble. Ron has a lot of experience in these situations and I'm sure he would be one of the first to admit whilst theres an chance someone else can win you cannot afford mistakes. Its racing and shit happens...

I think you should look more at what Ron HAS done this season. He led his team through arguably there hardest season to date and went into the final race with both his drivers potential world champions. No other team principle had as much to worry about away from the track and yet they were still the strongest overall team all season.

This season has been the best (results wise) for a long time. Why would Ron want to leave HIS team???

He may be the boss but it's not HIS team! Anyway regardless of all your comments(excuses) I thought it was generally accepted that the CEO carried the can if things go belly up!? Isn't that what top men earn the big bucks for - knowing what's going on and taking responsibility?
Anyway may all be immaterial if BMW have been idiots with the fuel and get disqualified - FIA digging Ron out for a change?
What a way to decide a F1 World Championship.