Why are roadworks so badly managed?
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Vlad the Imp said:
I bow to your superior knowledge, clearly a career in unloading the luggage from helicopters has made you more of an expert in highway maintenance than an entire industry put together.
Get it right. I supervised the unloading.
And in fairness, given the s
tshow on the M3 this weekend you’re probably right.I hear there’s a bloke laying out cones near Winchester right now in preparation for painting the footbridge at Fleet services.
Safety first. Actual work......five miles later.
popeyewhite said:
Drive the nation's roads like the rest of us? It's rammed home countless times on any number of journeys on any kind of road just how much the motorist is delayed by nonsensical roadworks, unattended roadworks, unnecessary lights etc
Oh hush now. You’ll have them spilling their tea in the welfare unit.The unattended works issue is probably the most prevalent, and always met with the same b
ks.....“Yes, well it’s just that it’s easier for us just to leave all the cones where they are while we wait six weeks for the next phase.
You wouldn’t understand.
And on top of that. Safety.
”Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th October 15:35
Whilst that’s all very interesting and undoubtedly true, it simply highlights what is possibly one of the root causes of many issues with highways engineering....
It’s always someone else’s fault and the travelling public don’t understand anyway.
Public perception is based on experience, so as an industry there is something fundamentally wrong with the way things are carried out.
It’s always someone else’s fault and the travelling public don’t understand anyway.
Public perception is based on experience, so as an industry there is something fundamentally wrong with the way things are carried out.
Gojira said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Gojira said:
If it is all so obvious and easy, why don't you set up your own Highways Maintenance company?
Surely if you can do it quicker and cheaper, the Highways Agency and local Council highways departments would be trampling each other to death in the rush...
You’re funny.Surely if you can do it quicker and cheaper, the Highways Agency and local Council highways departments would be trampling each other to death in the rush...
Are you a politician in real life?
24hr working.
Plenty of other service industries manage it, in fact they have to in order to survive.
Coming through the M4 works tonight......all in darkness, not a soul in sight.
Why is that? Highways a bit special and can’t work past 4pm?
Please don’t trot out the “waiting for the next phase” cliche.
Gojira said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Ok, here’s a thought for you and it’s not rocket science.
24hr working.
Plenty of other service industries manage it, in fact they have to in order to survive.
Coming through the M4 works tonight......all in darkness, not a soul in sight.
Why is that? Highways a bit special and can’t work past 4pm?
Please don’t trot out the “waiting for the next phase” cliche.
Why not....24hr working.
Plenty of other service industries manage it, in fact they have to in order to survive.
Coming through the M4 works tonight......all in darkness, not a soul in sight.
Why is that? Highways a bit special and can’t work past 4pm?
Please don’t trot out the “waiting for the next phase” cliche.
A lot of building materials need time to set, settle, etc before the next stage of the work can take place, if the job is to be done properly. That isn't rocket science, either.
Do you really think that you have come up with something that thousands of highway engineers have missed over the decades?
They aren’t building/setting/laying anything yet and are still in the phase of stripping out the old/obsolete roadside clutter ready to ruin the M4 in to a so-called Smart motorway.
Seriously, why can’t that go on round the clock?
And I doubt thousands of highways engineers have missed it. I suspect it’s an industry wide culture of being able to hold the travelling public hostage whilst the works are dawdled along at a pace convenient to the contractors and their bank balance.
And if that’s so misrepresentative, how come the industry is so universally loathed and widely panned for being a picture of laziness and inefficiency?
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 6th November 21:54
Night time working = normal hourly rate and is considered part of the job.
This is what I mean about a shift in attitude. Other industries with far less impact have to do it.
Why is highway work so special?
PS Came through the M4 works again this morning.
The concrete they didn’t lay at 7pm last still hasn’t set. That’s why there’s no one there yet, right?
Anyhow, since you’re all getting a bit punchy I guess we’ll leave it there and I’ll just have to accept that:
Concrete takes a very long time to set.
Deliveries come from Mars and take months.
And if all else fails “It a safety thing” that I wouldn’t understand.
Stay safe in the welfare unit fellas.
This is what I mean about a shift in attitude. Other industries with far less impact have to do it.
Why is highway work so special?
PS Came through the M4 works again this morning.
The concrete they didn’t lay at 7pm last still hasn’t set. That’s why there’s no one there yet, right?
Anyhow, since you’re all getting a bit punchy I guess we’ll leave it there and I’ll just have to accept that:
Concrete takes a very long time to set.
Deliveries come from Mars and take months.
And if all else fails “It a safety thing” that I wouldn’t understand.
Stay safe in the welfare unit fellas.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 7th November 06:11
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