My Honda Accord Type R Big Turbo
Discussion
Hi All,
Well ive been a broswer on Pistonheads for a long time but never posted, always bought and sold cars from here.
So i thought id post my current build up, and get flamed for putting so much power through the front wheels
It all started last year, at 24 i went through a divorce and i kinda went crazy. So i started this build whilst trying to go flat out on my 600RR everywhere.
Now that im "normal" again, i do think what have i done, its abit mental.
Previous list of cars since i was 17:
Saxo VTR
106 GTI
106 GTI
IS200
VX220
DC2 R
VX220
DC5 R
VX220 Turbo
DC5 R
172 Cup
DC5 R
JDM DC2 R
EVO IX
DC2 R
Accord R
Cars spec is listed below and current build up. Should be strapping on the Turbo early June and getting mapped. Almost done. Just running the new engine in at the mo, taking a while because the clutch is an animal. Hopefully mapping boost by gear will aid traction, will have a couple of boost settings so its useable, 300hp - 450hp - Full Power.
We built it to this spec, and are not chasing a power figure, just see what we get. Been told 650hp @ engine with 12% transmission loss so 570whp will come easy. Someone has the same spec as us in the US and made 780hp @ fly. Thats nuts. We will be setting a safe rev limit at 9200rpm. Engine is build for 10,000rpm.
I dont know what im expecting as i said i started it when i wasnt thinking right but im following it through.
Dont know what i will do with it once its done, daily use, track, drag. Maybe Carbon lined syncro's and change 5th gear and go for 200mph. Or just leave it as it is and use it when i have a fresh supply of huggies pull ups.
Well heres the spec and pics:
Bottom End
BB4 JDM Closed Deck Block
Wiesco Forged Pistons with Anti Friction Coated Skirts Including Rings & Pins
Eagle steel H BEAM Connecting Rods
ARP Engine Bolt Set for Engine Head, Rods, Crank Everything
Darton 88mm Iron Sleeves
OEM Honda Accord Type R Main Bearings
OEM Honda Accord Type R Rod Bearings
OEM Honda Accord Type R Thrust Washers
F20 Crank. Journels MicroPolished, Counter Weights Lead Filled
OEM Honda Accord Type R Oil Pump
OEM Honda Accord Type R Water Pump
Block Bored and Sleeved - Heat Tested Stroke 2100cc
Hot Tank Cleaning Of All Parts
Modified Crank Brace
Re Boring of Cylinder Sleeves
Power Hone of Bores
Deck Block Surface
Head
Prelude Type S JDM Cylinder Head
Comitec 1.4mm think head gasket
Brian Crower Duel Valve Springs
Brian Crower Bronze Intake Exhaust Valve Guides
Brian Crower Titanium Retainers
Brian Crower 0.25mm Over Size Valves
Gates High Power Timing Belt
Skunk2 Pro Series Cam Gears In Titanium
Racing Valve Stem Seals
Head Ported and Flowed
Chambers Balanced
Multi Angle Valve Job
Mirror Edge
Electronics
AEM EMS Full Standalone ECU
AEM Tru Boost Controller / Gauge
Swoosh Oil Pressure / Temp Gauge
Swoosh Boost Gauge
3 Bar Map Sensor
Fueling
1000cc Bosch Injector Dynamics
Walbro 225 Intake Fuel Pump
370 Line Fuel Pump External
Clutch
Clutchmasters FX700 Multi Plate Clutch Kit Custom Copper Plates
Clutchmasters Lighened Forged Flywheel
Cooling
Fluidyne Oil Cooler Core
Oil Filter Relocation Kit
Oil Cooler Pipes Sandwich Plate
Small Power Steering Cooler
R34 GTR InterCooler
3 Row Half Size Radiator
80c Thermo Valve
80c Fan Switch
Turbo
Holset HX35/HX40 Turbo Charger Anti Surge Housing
InterCooler Piping
HKS Blow of Valve
38m Deltagate External Waste Gate
Oil Lines For Holset Turbo
Plate For Holset Turbo
Cast Steel Manifold
Exhaust
BlueFlame Full Custom 3" Down Pipe
BlueFlame Full Custom 3" Single Exit Exhaust
Suspension
BC BR Range Coilovers
Custom 12kg Front Springs
Custom 7kg Rear Springs
AutoTech Geo Ride Height Setup
Chassis
Tein Front Upper Adjustable Brace
Tein Rear Upper Brace
UltraRacing 4 Point Lower Rear Brace
UltraRacing 4 Point Front Lower Brace
UltraRacing Front Fender Braces
UltraRacing Rear 19mm ARB
Brakes
XYZ Racing Front 6 Pot Racing Calipers
XYZ Racing 330mm Front Slotted Discs & Ali Bells
Ferrodo DS2500 Front & Rear Pads
XYZ Braided Lines
RBF600 fluid
Wheels & Tyres
17" Rota Grids Bronze
Lightweight Extended Lug Nuts
Yokohama Prada Spec 2
Secutiry & ICE
Clifford Concept Full Enclosure
Remote Start
Turbo Timer
Kenwood Double Din AUX/USB
Focal Components
Focal Mids
UltraRacing goodies ordered.
Tein rear bd pain in the ass brace!!
Fluidyne Oil Cooler
Nasty rocker cover is only whilst we fit, run in and map etc, hence leaving gears open so the cam timing can be adjusted. Have and OEM Type R Rocker cover to go on,
The Comp MO's are my friends so ive given them back it currently has Bronze Rota Grids. Whats left to do:
Fit Turbo
Exhaust Made Up
Mapping
Fit UR Bracing / Tein Front
Suspension Setup
Body Mop
Then abuse if and scare myself silly i guess
Well ive been a broswer on Pistonheads for a long time but never posted, always bought and sold cars from here.
So i thought id post my current build up, and get flamed for putting so much power through the front wheels
It all started last year, at 24 i went through a divorce and i kinda went crazy. So i started this build whilst trying to go flat out on my 600RR everywhere.
Now that im "normal" again, i do think what have i done, its abit mental.
Previous list of cars since i was 17:
Saxo VTR
106 GTI
106 GTI
IS200
VX220
DC2 R
VX220
DC5 R
VX220 Turbo
DC5 R
172 Cup
DC5 R
JDM DC2 R
EVO IX
DC2 R
Accord R
Cars spec is listed below and current build up. Should be strapping on the Turbo early June and getting mapped. Almost done. Just running the new engine in at the mo, taking a while because the clutch is an animal. Hopefully mapping boost by gear will aid traction, will have a couple of boost settings so its useable, 300hp - 450hp - Full Power.
We built it to this spec, and are not chasing a power figure, just see what we get. Been told 650hp @ engine with 12% transmission loss so 570whp will come easy. Someone has the same spec as us in the US and made 780hp @ fly. Thats nuts. We will be setting a safe rev limit at 9200rpm. Engine is build for 10,000rpm.
I dont know what im expecting as i said i started it when i wasnt thinking right but im following it through.
Dont know what i will do with it once its done, daily use, track, drag. Maybe Carbon lined syncro's and change 5th gear and go for 200mph. Or just leave it as it is and use it when i have a fresh supply of huggies pull ups.
Well heres the spec and pics:
Bottom End
BB4 JDM Closed Deck Block
Wiesco Forged Pistons with Anti Friction Coated Skirts Including Rings & Pins
Eagle steel H BEAM Connecting Rods
ARP Engine Bolt Set for Engine Head, Rods, Crank Everything
Darton 88mm Iron Sleeves
OEM Honda Accord Type R Main Bearings
OEM Honda Accord Type R Rod Bearings
OEM Honda Accord Type R Thrust Washers
F20 Crank. Journels MicroPolished, Counter Weights Lead Filled
OEM Honda Accord Type R Oil Pump
OEM Honda Accord Type R Water Pump
Block Bored and Sleeved - Heat Tested Stroke 2100cc
Hot Tank Cleaning Of All Parts
Modified Crank Brace
Re Boring of Cylinder Sleeves
Power Hone of Bores
Deck Block Surface
Head
Prelude Type S JDM Cylinder Head
Comitec 1.4mm think head gasket
Brian Crower Duel Valve Springs
Brian Crower Bronze Intake Exhaust Valve Guides
Brian Crower Titanium Retainers
Brian Crower 0.25mm Over Size Valves
Gates High Power Timing Belt
Skunk2 Pro Series Cam Gears In Titanium
Racing Valve Stem Seals
Head Ported and Flowed
Chambers Balanced
Multi Angle Valve Job
Mirror Edge
Electronics
AEM EMS Full Standalone ECU
AEM Tru Boost Controller / Gauge
Swoosh Oil Pressure / Temp Gauge
Swoosh Boost Gauge
3 Bar Map Sensor
Fueling
1000cc Bosch Injector Dynamics
Walbro 225 Intake Fuel Pump
370 Line Fuel Pump External
Clutch
Clutchmasters FX700 Multi Plate Clutch Kit Custom Copper Plates
Clutchmasters Lighened Forged Flywheel
Cooling
Fluidyne Oil Cooler Core
Oil Filter Relocation Kit
Oil Cooler Pipes Sandwich Plate
Small Power Steering Cooler
R34 GTR InterCooler
3 Row Half Size Radiator
80c Thermo Valve
80c Fan Switch
Turbo
Holset HX35/HX40 Turbo Charger Anti Surge Housing
InterCooler Piping
HKS Blow of Valve
38m Deltagate External Waste Gate
Oil Lines For Holset Turbo
Plate For Holset Turbo
Cast Steel Manifold
Exhaust
BlueFlame Full Custom 3" Down Pipe
BlueFlame Full Custom 3" Single Exit Exhaust
Suspension
BC BR Range Coilovers
Custom 12kg Front Springs
Custom 7kg Rear Springs
AutoTech Geo Ride Height Setup
Chassis
Tein Front Upper Adjustable Brace
Tein Rear Upper Brace
UltraRacing 4 Point Lower Rear Brace
UltraRacing 4 Point Front Lower Brace
UltraRacing Front Fender Braces
UltraRacing Rear 19mm ARB
Brakes
XYZ Racing Front 6 Pot Racing Calipers
XYZ Racing 330mm Front Slotted Discs & Ali Bells
Ferrodo DS2500 Front & Rear Pads
XYZ Braided Lines
RBF600 fluid
Wheels & Tyres
17" Rota Grids Bronze
Lightweight Extended Lug Nuts
Yokohama Prada Spec 2
Secutiry & ICE
Clifford Concept Full Enclosure
Remote Start
Turbo Timer
Kenwood Double Din AUX/USB
Focal Components
Focal Mids
UltraRacing goodies ordered.
Tein rear bd pain in the ass brace!!
Fluidyne Oil Cooler
Nasty rocker cover is only whilst we fit, run in and map etc, hence leaving gears open so the cam timing can be adjusted. Have and OEM Type R Rocker cover to go on,
The Comp MO's are my friends so ive given them back it currently has Bronze Rota Grids. Whats left to do:
Fit Turbo
Exhaust Made Up
Mapping
Fit UR Bracing / Tein Front
Suspension Setup
Body Mop
Then abuse if and scare myself silly i guess
joe_90 said:
Fair play.. but i have to ask:
how much have you lost on cars over the year, and how much as that one cost you so far?
And why did you choose that model/make to go crazy on? Why no the DC5 or the clio or the Evo?
Cheers and good luck.. you getting a LSD or uprated gearbox?
Not much to be honest, because i buy and sell quickly, my cars are always mint so sell well. I never went crazy on the others apart from the Saxo, it was just breathing mods ECU and handling, so quote mild. EVO was at 425hp/435lbft but was Stolen last year how much have you lost on cars over the year, and how much as that one cost you so far?
And why did you choose that model/make to go crazy on? Why no the DC5 or the clio or the Evo?
Cheers and good luck.. you getting a LSD or uprated gearbox?
If i hadnt of gone through my divorce this project wouldnt have existed i wouldnt have started it, hence why i never went crazy on ther others.
I just never had an Accord before so i thought id try one.
Cheers, it has a strong LSD as standard, the gearbox should be fine because the clutch is so strong. If it does die, Carbon Lined Syncro's and Gears will be going in.
Martin Keene said:
Why has the turbo been pictured on top of a white JDM DC2 engine and why does the odd whitebrace thing appear to have been fitted to a grey Evo IV?
Are the water marks on the evo pic and the other brace pictures not obvious enough for you?As to why it is on a DC2 I am not sure but is it not likely to be his car as well lol
flattotheboards said:
What a monster! I hope its going to look fairly standard like the 3rd pic from the bottom
Yes, exterior will be standard, Intercooler hidden. Only differences externally will be lowered ride height, wheels, brakes, and single exit exhaust (might get it done diesel style pointing down vz-r_dave said:
Martin Keene said:
Why has the turbo been pictured on top of a white JDM DC2 engine and why does the odd whitebrace thing appear to have been fitted to a grey Evo IV?
Are the water marks on the evo pic and the other brace pictures not obvious enough for you?As to why it is on a DC2 I am not sure but is it not likely to be his car as well lol
The white car, is a Civic Hatch EG6, my mates, my tuner also built that, B18C6 motor, UK DC2 R engine, 13:1 compression, Stage 3, Making power at 10200rpm N/A. Mental!
Here's a video: http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/JayKullar/?...
Only put it on that engine just for a pic, so it shows how big the turbo actually is
Edited by JayK12 on Wednesday 19th May 19:49
Nuts! Love it! Turbo charged honda engines are something I find very interesting.
One question - why have you got a turbo with an intenal wastegate when you have a manifold for an external gate (and the wastegate to go with it)?
Is that the unit you are going to use?
Nice tho - would love one of these high revving turbo lumps in something like a caterfield or a zcars conversion.
One question - why have you got a turbo with an intenal wastegate when you have a manifold for an external gate (and the wastegate to go with it)?
Is that the unit you are going to use?
Nice tho - would love one of these high revving turbo lumps in something like a caterfield or a zcars conversion.
AdamBomb said:
Nuts! Love it! Turbo charged honda engines are something I find very interesting.
One question - why have you got a turbo with an intenal wastegate when you have a manifold for an external gate (and the wastegate to go with it)?
Is that the unit you are going to use?
Nice tho - would love one of these high revving turbo lumps in something like a caterfield or a zcars conversion.
Its a Holset turbo which are use on Trucks/Boats etc, but alot of the guys in the US use them as they a extremely strong at high boost pressures and the service intervals are long.One question - why have you got a turbo with an intenal wastegate when you have a manifold for an external gate (and the wastegate to go with it)?
Is that the unit you are going to use?
Nice tho - would love one of these high revving turbo lumps in something like a caterfield or a zcars conversion.
My tuner said it requires the internal and external waste to opperate properly (and be mapped) something about boost creep.
Id love this in an S2000! But that would be asking for a 5'8" wooden box!
I have never (ever) seen a turbo setup with both internal AND external gates - and I have studied a lot of turbo setups (a serious obsession of mine for a while now, maybe 10 years).
Why not just use a larger external gate? Manifold won't take it? How are you going to control the actuators? Sequentialy? What are you going to use to do that?
Did your guy build the block / head up?
Good luck with it!
Why not just use a larger external gate? Manifold won't take it? How are you going to control the actuators? Sequentialy? What are you going to use to do that?
Did your guy build the block / head up?
Good luck with it!
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