1981 Lotus Eclat 2.2

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anonymous-user

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56 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Lots of "nice car, boss". Those poor blokes, they work long hours in all weathers, for, I assume, not much. I bunged them a reasonable tip.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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The single wiper is haunted. Sometimes it comes on unbidden. It parks where it feels like (must be a PH'er). The Elite and Eclat are cars designed around the wiper motor, so fixing this is not much of an option without dismantling the car.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Lotus often used cheap materials for the interiors and they age badly. The black and grey tweed cloth that swathes my Eclat is hard wearing, but looks a bit dowdy. The strips of metallic trim have marked. My friend's Elite has had a re trim and feels quite 70s posh inside.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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The interior scrubs up OK -




anonymous-user

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56 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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I agree, but I wonder if the price is still a tad ambitious.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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I tried driving along the M40 in rain today with the wiper switched off, and the car is so slinky that this is OK - it hardly needs a wiper at 70 mph.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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A decent looking early Excel at a sensible price -


https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C912508

anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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All Excels are Eclats. Lotus did not obtain a new type approval. DVLA lists all Excels as Eclats, and early Excels were badged as Eclat Excels.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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You can tell it's an Excel from the Supra wheels, the absence of a slope below the quarter light, the B pillar, and the steering wheel.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Eclat -



Excel -


anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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12TS said:
Breadvan72 said:
A decent looking early Excel at a sensible price -


https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C912508
Doesn't have that wonderful 70s interior. However doesn't it have the Toyota engine? Head says one, heart the other.
No. Excels have Lotus 912 engines. Toyota supplied the gear box, brakes and other bits.

The early Excel interior is the same as the late Eclat interior.

The Excel later became wider and acquired a new interior.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 18th November 22:21

anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Note also different door handles, and a change in the shape of the rear side windows. Spoilers are usual on Excels, but rare and in my case probably aftermarket on Eclats.

The Eclat started with the 907 engine , but ended with the 912. The 912 was upgraded part way through the Excel production run. It always had twin carbs. Lotus never fitted fuel injection.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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I agree, which is why I like them, although Excels are better cars. The main improvement is the brakes and electrics.

Frosty today -



anonymous-user

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56 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Lights up or lights down?


anonymous-user

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56 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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That was indeed me. I was on my way from Oxfordshire to Belsize Park.

EDIT: Not me if not on the A40. I didn't go off at Denham - I was on the M40 and then A40 all the way in to Marylebone.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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The heater in my Eclat is rubbish. Brrrrrr.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Driving up sun at 8 am this morning I could see fook all through the steamy windaz. Always take the weather with you.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Electrical mayhem :

Mechanic says -

For Lotus I found the following issues today in dashboard area:

* Wiper motor worm wire cable has been fitted without shortening (i.e.
is from a car which had 2 wiper mech's). Therefore the excess cable
is moving back & forth at the top of the inside of dash, rubbing
away the fibreglass, and also is a big fiore hazard as is rubbing
away on a main wiring loom! Need to shorten this cable, and hoping
it will reduce the friction & speed up the motor a bit. May also be
causing it to jam occasionally.
* Wiper module is fitted to this model, it doesn't match the Excel
manual (which shows a more basic non-module system), so I need to
check this further. Although wipers do work most of the time, they
fail to park correctly even though a new park switch is now in place.
* Wiper stalk fails to wash screen as you know. Hopefully can restore
stalk to full working condition.
* Ignition switch is almost worn out. It fails to hold in position II
(as already mentioned). May be time for a new switch? Need to find
what was fitted to these, looks like other Lotus models used the GT6
as a donor.
* Both engine bay fuseboxes have had overheating issues. The terminals
are riveted but said overheating has caused the terminals to work
loose. 2 New ones on order. had to replace 2 wire connectors on the
back of these today which has stopped two intermittent open circuits.
* Ordered a new fibre optic sender as Rimmers doing a great deal on
these. Old one had flaked silver reflective paint. Will mod using
bright LED bulb instead as already mentioned.
* Interior lamp inop with door open - appears to be faulty switches -
power is getting to them. Will try to source
* Heater flaps inop for console vents. Can see system relies on vacuum
tubes - will trace source of fault next visit.
* Radio wiring pretty terrible, can rewire & make good unless you have
another in mind.
* Cooling fans in engine bay cut in and at same time there's a relay
clicking a few times in pedal area. Need to check this as might be
reason for fan fail light problem.
* Heater fan now ok - was one of the feed wires on the back of dodgy
fusebox.
* Heater speed switch is incorrect - hence no way to fit heater knobs.
SJ sportscars got back to me but have no stock....searching for
alternative supply.
* Foglamp switch bulb replaced, now illuminates when on
* Top left two switches on console aren't wired up. One is blank and
has purple light, other is "Int. Lamp".


anonymous-user

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56 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Mech update:-

Good bit of progress today on Lotus, the new ign. switch is 100% better and positive key position restored. Top fusebox replaced & new terminals fitted to all necessary wires on new ign switch & fusebox. Absolute pig of a job! Wiper arm parks now correctly. Traced burnt fusebox to previous wiper motor failure as someone left a trace of repairs to prevent repeat. Have restored wiring to original as much as possible. Shame they left dodgy fusebox in though! It was causing an intermittent feed to about 5 circuits.
I cut down the wiper mech cable and sheathed remainder in heatshrink tube, now no electrical hazard and wiper quiet & smooth. Still need to sort washer part of wiper switch next visit.
Switch fibre optics still needs further mods today with LED looking good so far.
Fusebox also likely the cause of other gremlins, work to continue on Thurs. to fit new lower fusebox. All in all it’s just years of quick fixes that gave caused tge problems, but it’s been a pleasure to work on. Much better quality than old and even 90’s TVRs & some nice design work has gone into this car.

anonymous-user

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56 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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He has a TVR wedge so apostasy too.