Suffolk Jaguar SS100
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Swallownut said:
julian64 said:
Am still having trouble identifying the steering column. According to Suffolk it was a MK6 jag with an extension welded on.
Mk 6 Jag?? That's a new one on me. LOL
As I said before doesn't look like anything in the Jaguar lineup to me so the possibility some alternative bits were used
Swallownut said:
Me being pedantic again but there was no mark 3 Jaguar either. There wasn't even a mark 1 until the Mark 2 came along and forced the issue. Please forgive me but what do you expect from an honorary life member of the JDC and self confessed rivet counter.
No problem. I'm probably frustrating as I'm the polar opposite of you. Not even sure what the JDC is.Thats how frustrating I must be. I've only ever turned up at one car owners club meet my entire life and that was for my TVR!If you can identify that column though all is forgiven and then some.
julian64 said:
The colour apparently is an original colour called lavender grey. Slightly weird as its not grey, and certainly not lavender. Its quite stunning in the daylight.
According to Suffolk its one of the first they built, so I guess pretty early in Suffolk's evolution. .
Am still having trouble identifying the steering column. According to Suffolk it was a MK6 jag with an extension welded on. The previous owner had a motolite wheel on so it needed the collar at the top. However the original wheel has a clamp and was quite happy to slide up and down the original keyway for adjustment so I've re-machined it all. It has a typical crush section at the bottom as you can see. The phot shows when it was first taken off.
Good eye by the way on the XKSS. Its the car on my profile. I think I'm probably developing some sort of unhealthy addiction to Jaguars.
There's no mistaking the distinctive and unique line of an XKSS's windscreen line!According to Suffolk its one of the first they built, so I guess pretty early in Suffolk's evolution. .
Am still having trouble identifying the steering column. According to Suffolk it was a MK6 jag with an extension welded on. The previous owner had a motolite wheel on so it needed the collar at the top. However the original wheel has a clamp and was quite happy to slide up and down the original keyway for adjustment so I've re-machined it all. It has a typical crush section at the bottom as you can see. The phot shows when it was first taken off.
Good eye by the way on the XKSS. Its the car on my profile. I think I'm probably developing some sort of unhealthy addiction to Jaguars.
I'm pleased to see you've joined Mike Taylor's group - there are expert peeps on there who may well help you ID your steering column.
I'll follow your progress with interest. Good luck.
Hi Straff99 - thanks for the compliment. We try our best!
PAS steering? Suffolk actually offer this option but the only Suffolk SS100 I have come across - not that I HAVE come across many - with PAS is Noel Edmund's 'Le Riviera' range that isn't really aimed at the same market that attracts PH members! I did consider it but briefly as when I test drove a Suffolk works car I agreed with them that it didn't really need it. I certainly haven't read of any current owner expressing a desire for PAS. But where do you stop? What about A/C? What about Auto? Noel Edmund opted for both those, too. But - I would consider PAS if I thought it needed it. Or I needed it !!
PAS steering? Suffolk actually offer this option but the only Suffolk SS100 I have come across - not that I HAVE come across many - with PAS is Noel Edmund's 'Le Riviera' range that isn't really aimed at the same market that attracts PH members! I did consider it but briefly as when I test drove a Suffolk works car I agreed with them that it didn't really need it. I certainly haven't read of any current owner expressing a desire for PAS. But where do you stop? What about A/C? What about Auto? Noel Edmund opted for both those, too. But - I would consider PAS if I thought it needed it. Or I needed it !!
At first I thought it was those Blockley tyres which precluded the need for PAS but then I remembered how heavy the steering is (particularly at slow speeds) on my 1926 Dodge Brothers tourer which has skinny 4.50/4.75 x 21 (cross ply) tyres. It must be down to the suspension/steering design. I have always said these Suffolk cars may have the great 1930s look but in fact they are also a darn good car in their own right.
I wouldn't mind betting that the original SS100 had heavier steering.
Incidentally, I like the idea of using the manual ignition advance lever as an indicator switch. (It would be a nice touch for any car which has been converted to electronic ignition). As it happens it reminds me of the boss mounted indicator switch on my first car - a Ford 100E.
What could the hand throttle lever be used for? I think there are sometimes advantages to retaining a hand throttle.
I wouldn't mind betting that the original SS100 had heavier steering.
Incidentally, I like the idea of using the manual ignition advance lever as an indicator switch. (It would be a nice touch for any car which has been converted to electronic ignition). As it happens it reminds me of the boss mounted indicator switch on my first car - a Ford 100E.
What could the hand throttle lever be used for? I think there are sometimes advantages to retaining a hand throttle.
Swallownut said:
At first I thought it was those Blockley tyres which precluded the need for PAS but then I remembered how heavy the steering is (particularly at slow speeds) on my 1926 Dodge Brothers tourer which has skinny 4.50/4.75 x 21 (cross ply) tyres. It must be down to the suspension/steering design. I have always said these Suffolk cars may have the great 1930s look but in fact they are also a darn good car in their own right.
I wouldn't mind betting that the original SS100 had heavier steering.
Incidentally, I like the idea of using the manual ignition advance lever as an indicator switch. (It would be a nice touch for any car which has been converted to electronic ignition). As it happens it reminds me of the boss mounted indicator switch on my first car - a Ford 100E.
What could the hand throttle lever be used for? I think there are sometimes advantages to retaining a hand throttle.
Indicators and high/low beam was my thought but to be honest I'm open to suggestions as I haven't wired it I nyet. Spent the weekend welding up the steering column and making the steering wheel adjustable for throw.I wouldn't mind betting that the original SS100 had heavier steering.
Incidentally, I like the idea of using the manual ignition advance lever as an indicator switch. (It would be a nice touch for any car which has been converted to electronic ignition). As it happens it reminds me of the boss mounted indicator switch on my first car - a Ford 100E.
What could the hand throttle lever be used for? I think there are sometimes advantages to retaining a hand throttle.
Out of interest I couldn't see any photos of original steering wheels and wondered if I should take some photos before I put it back together. I would have thought its possible to get a set of these manufactured as a short run for those who would want them with some good photos.
julian64 said:
Indicators and high/low beam was my thought but to be honest I'm open to suggestions as I haven't wired it I nyet. Spent the weekend welding up the steering column and making the steering wheel adjustable for throw.
Out of interest I couldn't see any photos of original steering wheels and wondered if I should take some photos before I put it back together. I would have thought its possible to get a set of these manufactured as a short run for those who would want them with some good photos.
These old steering columns are often a work of art in themselves. In addition to a tube operating the steering mechanism, the column should consist of three other concentric tubes; each of different lengths and one inside the other. The two inner tubes rotate against each other and would originally have connected the ignition advance and hand throttle levers on the steering wheel boss with small operating levers at their other extremities . The innermost tube should take the horn wire. It is important to ensure this wire is not allowed to chaff against where it emerges from the tube (originally, just below the steering box.) A suitable grommet is a good precaution. This could provide a good route for the indicator and high/low beam wires.Out of interest I couldn't see any photos of original steering wheels and wondered if I should take some photos before I put it back together. I would have thought its possible to get a set of these manufactured as a short run for those who would want them with some good photos.
As the Suffolk uses rack and pinion steering it may take a fair bit of fettling to utilise an old style column. Best of luck.
Edited by Swallownut on Monday 4th March 14:44
Edited by Swallownut on Monday 4th March 14:47
Roadstar800 said:
Hi Straff99 - thanks for the compliment. We try our best!
PAS steering? Suffolk actually offer this option but the only Suffolk SS100 I have come across - not that I HAVE come across many - with PAS is Noel Edmund's 'Le Riviera' range that isn't really aimed at the same market that attracts PH members! I did consider it but briefly as when I test drove a Suffolk works car I agreed with them that it didn't really need it. I certainly haven't read of any current owner expressing a desire for PAS. But where do you stop? What about A/C? What about Auto? Noel Edmund opted for both those, too. But - I would consider PAS if I thought it needed it. Or I needed it !!
PAS steering? Suffolk actually offer this option but the only Suffolk SS100 I have come across - not that I HAVE come across many - with PAS is Noel Edmund's 'Le Riviera' range that isn't really aimed at the same market that attracts PH members! I did consider it but briefly as when I test drove a Suffolk works car I agreed with them that it didn't really need it. I certainly haven't read of any current owner expressing a desire for PAS. But where do you stop? What about A/C? What about Auto? Noel Edmund opted for both those, too. But - I would consider PAS if I thought it needed it. Or I needed it !!
AC and/or auto? Nightmare!! That Noel Edmonds chappy is getting on a bit, though... It was just a thought that the fitment would be easy at this point but, if it doesn't need it, it doesn't need it.
Carry on!
Air con ...what, on an open top car? The world's gone mad.Roadstar,
I have been following your thread with great interest. I have previously owned an SS100 then Suffolk's first all aluminium C type and I am now awaiting the birth of my second SS100. It is due to go for it's IVA test next week then it will be built up for delivery hopefully by the end of April.
Like you, I find the whole Suffolk team a joy to work with and it is great to be able to visit the works to see the progress. If I may make some observations, I too have red wheels but with the new "quieter" patten Italian tread, I have gone for the leather dash as my last one ( and the C ) both had engine turned and I fancied a change. I have also gone for the "New, original 17" steering wheel, I think it looks great.
I have also requested a few additions such as a fan over ride switch ( just in case), the heater water valve to be inside the car as The Memsahib likes a bit of heat. ( she has control of the heater in our Morgan ) and a hazard flasher switch again just in case. I have deleted the rear rack and gone for the simple one that attaches to the spare wheel.
As I'm a bit of a child at heart, I have also gone for the delete option on the rear silencers so as to have a bit more noise ( as per Jay Leno )
Final thing, you may have noticed that nearly everyone has gone onto and is now using Mike Taylors new site on Face Ache which is not to distract from your splendid efforts here but is probably going to become the defacto site for Suffolk SS100's in the same way that the JEC site is pretty much caput.
I have been following your thread with great interest. I have previously owned an SS100 then Suffolk's first all aluminium C type and I am now awaiting the birth of my second SS100. It is due to go for it's IVA test next week then it will be built up for delivery hopefully by the end of April.
Like you, I find the whole Suffolk team a joy to work with and it is great to be able to visit the works to see the progress. If I may make some observations, I too have red wheels but with the new "quieter" patten Italian tread, I have gone for the leather dash as my last one ( and the C ) both had engine turned and I fancied a change. I have also gone for the "New, original 17" steering wheel, I think it looks great.
I have also requested a few additions such as a fan over ride switch ( just in case), the heater water valve to be inside the car as The Memsahib likes a bit of heat. ( she has control of the heater in our Morgan ) and a hazard flasher switch again just in case. I have deleted the rear rack and gone for the simple one that attaches to the spare wheel.
As I'm a bit of a child at heart, I have also gone for the delete option on the rear silencers so as to have a bit more noise ( as per Jay Leno )
Final thing, you may have noticed that nearly everyone has gone onto and is now using Mike Taylors new site on Face Ache which is not to distract from your splendid efforts here but is probably going to become the defacto site for Suffolk SS100's in the same way that the JEC site is pretty much caput.
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