Unexpected family wagon - 2006 4.4V8 Vogue (going in blind!)
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I visited the local tyre place yesterday and asked them to remove a wheel — we gave it an inspection and a good going over with an air hose but there was no remarkable reveal of hidden gravel. So we got it onto the ramp and nothing loose or evident.
The mud did get into a lot of places, however!
We also replace one of the two missing undertray 10mm bolts
Today, I decided to proceed with the booking at Land Rover. They called me at the end of the day to tell me that there was no smoking gun but that they’re going to carry on investigating. Current suspicions are a damaged/blowing manifold that would require a new gasket and nine hours labour. I think that I’ll pop into them tomorrow and let them know that I was off roading and knocked the underside, just to illuminate the possible cause and consequence. Pray for me.
The mud did get into a lot of places, however!
We also replace one of the two missing undertray 10mm bolts
Today, I decided to proceed with the booking at Land Rover. They called me at the end of the day to tell me that there was no smoking gun but that they’re going to carry on investigating. Current suspicions are a damaged/blowing manifold that would require a new gasket and nine hours labour. I think that I’ll pop into them tomorrow and let them know that I was off roading and knocked the underside, just to illuminate the possible cause and consequence. Pray for me.
It'd be bad luck to get an issue like that, and coincidental, right after going off road. I guess going off road does put a lot of stress on certain components but it'll be interesting to see if they find the cause.
I hope it isn't a manifold issue. That sounds like it'll be expensive!
I hope it isn't a manifold issue. That sounds like it'll be expensive!
bolidemichael said:
It happens! Hopefully the suction cup will do the trick.
Dropped off this morning and they’ll fit them immediately in order to free up space in the garage on a busy Saturday!
Extra cool points for the KTM Duke 890R.Dropped off this morning and they’ll fit them immediately in order to free up space in the garage on a busy Saturday!
That crud by the lower suspension arm looks like pebble dashing. The only time I've offroaded is at that place west of High Wycombe. I think I'd rather use someone elses LR for off road frolics.
After the investigation, I’ve collected the car. They’re too busy to address it further at present and they didn’t charge me for their time — a worrying sign as they probably feel pity for the incoming potential cost.
They think that the manifold may have ripped a stud connecting it to the engine block — if so, and it has ripped off then they’d refuse the job as it’d involve removing the head in order to access it with a helicoil and from there is a risk that the issues may cascade.
Anyway, that’s tomorrow’s problem. In the meantime, I gave them a dozen sausage rolls straight out of the oven at Gregg’s as a thank you.
They think that the manifold may have ripped a stud connecting it to the engine block — if so, and it has ripped off then they’d refuse the job as it’d involve removing the head in order to access it with a helicoil and from there is a risk that the issues may cascade.
Anyway, that’s tomorrow’s problem. In the meantime, I gave them a dozen sausage rolls straight out of the oven at Gregg’s as a thank you.
Just seems bizarre to me, what are the odds of such a problem arising immediately after off roading? Do you think you knocked the exhaust? Even then, seems bizarre. Does it make the noise when revving in idle
Have you decided what to do/where to go? What happens if you keep driving it?
Have you decided what to do/where to go? What happens if you keep driving it?
I did this to my s211 on the way home from France. Hit a sleeping gendarme at pace that I didn’t see because of low sun in my eyes and a completely random place to put one.
Hit and damaged the engine manifold. Sounded like a NASCAR all the way home from the south of France. The initial novelty of the noise wore off very rapidly….
Hit and damaged the engine manifold. Sounded like a NASCAR all the way home from the south of France. The initial novelty of the noise wore off very rapidly….
RicksAlfas said:
Sounds a bit odd. Can you remember clonking the exhaust? It would have needed a hefty bash to break a stud and I would have thought it would be visible with a bit of poking about.
There was a clonk underneath over an obstacle, which was disappointing as we had traversed it two or three times before. Biglips said:
I did this to my s211 on the way home from France. Hit a sleeping gendarme at pace that I didn’t see because of low sun in my eyes and a completely random place to put one.
Hit and damaged the engine manifold. Sounded like a NASCAR all the way home from the south of France. The initial novelty of the noise wore off very rapidly….
That sounds morbidly amusing. Hit and damaged the engine manifold. Sounded like a NASCAR all the way home from the south of France. The initial novelty of the noise wore off very rapidly….
It may have a snapped stud!
I’m going to ask them for a written confirmation of what the assessment is.
Today, I went to Naismith’s Engineering in Wimbledon Park and he politely declined the job.
He recommended Millennium LR specialists in Purley and they were happy to look at the car and give a free quote… but charge £149 (or so!) per hour
He also recommended ‘another specialist in Leatherhead’ whom I googled and found Jag and Land Surrey. I spoke to the proprietor, Billy, a really nice guy who also told me to kindly foxtrot oscar, as he was so, so busy at the present time and as per LR Wimbledon, didn’t want a car tying up a ramp. However, at £85 per hour, that’s more appealing and worth revisiting.
He recommended I try Keith Gott in Alton… so I called them and they asked me to send photos… not easy, so I suggested a report from LR Wimbledon and they said that’s suffice… however, they’re at £120/hour.
Ho hum, we do love an adventure don’t we, whether a metaphorical or actual off road one…
I’m going to ask them for a written confirmation of what the assessment is.
Today, I went to Naismith’s Engineering in Wimbledon Park and he politely declined the job.
He recommended Millennium LR specialists in Purley and they were happy to look at the car and give a free quote… but charge £149 (or so!) per hour
He also recommended ‘another specialist in Leatherhead’ whom I googled and found Jag and Land Surrey. I spoke to the proprietor, Billy, a really nice guy who also told me to kindly foxtrot oscar, as he was so, so busy at the present time and as per LR Wimbledon, didn’t want a car tying up a ramp. However, at £85 per hour, that’s more appealing and worth revisiting.
He recommended I try Keith Gott in Alton… so I called them and they asked me to send photos… not easy, so I suggested a report from LR Wimbledon and they said that’s suffice… however, they’re at £120/hour.
Ho hum, we do love an adventure don’t we, whether a metaphorical or actual off road one…
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