Ford Focus Mk2 [ST] Estate Sleeper - Build Thread

Ford Focus Mk2 [ST] Estate Sleeper - Build Thread

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CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Shadow R1 said:
CHR15 G said:
Realistically it was never going to work, but it was worth trying as it didn't cost us any time! It's a mismatch of engine ECU, dash and keys from both cars, we did try both keys though.

The Ford PATS system requires both the dash pod (via the ignition barrel) and the engine ECU independently verify the code on chip in the key, ie you need a matching set of ECU, dash pod and key.
I had a new key coded for my focus mk2, during testing it left 2 codes stored one for the ecu and the other for the dash unit, both saying keycode mismatch.
So i think your on the right line with the above. smile
Thanks, it does sound like I'm on the right track with needing to match everything together.

CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Atomic GTI said:
Good effort, i think this will turn out really nicely
Thank you, I hope it does!

Hudson

1,857 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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CHR15 G said:
I'd be happy with 300bhp to start with. But it does sound like I need to get the block mod down.

I believe the down pipe and cat are Milltek, but I would need to check.
Good stuff smile Intake, intercooler, full 'zorst and a decent map are enough for 320bhpish. Block mod is advisable, only effects a tiny percent of cars and the argument over what causes what will go on till the end of time but it's peace of mind at the end of the day.

I, naturally, found all this out AFTER i had my cambelt done, and the belt needs changing to do the mod... sigh.


Good luck with the build!

Fastdruid

8,731 posts

154 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Hudson said:
CHR15 G said:
I'd be happy with 300bhp to start with. But it does sound like I need to get the block mod down.

I believe the down pipe and cat are Milltek, but I would need to check.
Good stuff smile Intake, intercooler, full 'zorst and a decent map are enough for 320bhpish. Block mod is advisable, only effects a tiny percent of cars and the argument over what causes what will go on till the end of time but it's peace of mind at the end of the day.

I, naturally, found all this out AFTER i had my cambelt done, and the belt needs changing to do the mod... sigh.


Good luck with the build!
I'm torn as to if it's worth it on mine. It's on 92k so a cambelt isn't due for another 33k (or >3 years at my current use) but while it's currently totally stock I'm thinking I'm going to get an intake, intercooler and remap as soon as my insurance is up for renewal and I can swap (current insurer won't allow *any* modifications). While I'm not going to be going for lots of power it is a heaver car than the Focus so going to be worked a bit harder...



CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Booked marked this the other day thinking it there would be a couple of updates every month or so...

Great job so far.
I have got a bit of a backlog of updates to do...

CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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pingu393 said:
Bookmarked to MyStuff smile.

I love a good project.
At first I was just looking forward to it being done, but since starting I have really enjoyed the process

claymore

155 posts

195 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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I would definitely get the liners shimmed.

I shimmed mine after I split a liner and it's been fine since smile


LankyLegoHead

749 posts

134 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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I'm not a Ford guy but.... bookmarked. I do like the Focus, but the ST has such a bad image problem, this project makes me happy.

Hudson

1,857 posts

189 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Fastdruid said:
I'm torn as to if it's worth it on mine. It's on 92k so a cambelt isn't due for another 33k (or >3 years at my current use) but while it's currently totally stock I'm thinking I'm going to get an intake, intercooler and remap as soon as my insurance is up for renewal and I can swap (current insurer won't allow *any* modifications). While I'm not going to be going for lots of power it is a heaver car than the Focus so going to be worked a bit harder...
Greenlight are worth a look, that's who i'm with and they're good with mods (most of the time there's no charge whatsoever).

As for the belt, i changed mine early (93k~), it's the first car i've had with a belt instead of a chain and i'm paranoid about it hehe

KillerHERTZ

967 posts

200 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Excellent project!


Whats the deal once you have finished, will you need to re-register it as a new vehicle?

CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

156 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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claymore said:
I would definitely get the liners shimmed.

I shimmed mine after I split a liner and it's been fine since smile

I don't want to talk about the block mod too much here as it has been covered a lot elsewhere, and there is more to this project that just the engine. For two main reasons I've decided not to get it done:
1. I think it might have it already. A lot has been done to this engine already and it's reported to be a 'very good one', therefore it would surprise me if it hadn't been done.
2. If it hasn't been done, and my liners do crack, then this would be an excellent excuse to rip out the engine and build up a 'proper' one with all new internals and 400-450bhp... I like the sound of that project!

CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

156 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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KillerHERTZ said:
Excellent project!


Whats the deal once you have finished, will you need to re-register it as a new vehicle?
Thank you!

No, I just need to send proof to the DVLA of the new engine size, fuel and tax class and they will update the log book. If I was 'upgrading' to the diesel from the T5 then I think they would want to come and have a look as I would then be paying them less VED, but as I'll be paying them more money then I think they're well up for it!

Insurance with Adrain Flux is very reasonable indeed, I would give them a try for all modified vehicles.

pingu393

8,088 posts

207 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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CHR15 G said:
Insurance with Adrain Flux is very reasonable indeed, I would give them a try for all modified vehicles.
Yes. I've found that they are more expensive for standard, but once the mods start mounting up, they seem more and more reasonable.

And, very importantly, they seem to know what they are talking about.

Fastdruid

8,731 posts

154 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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pingu393 said:
CHR15 G said:
Insurance with Adrain Flux is very reasonable indeed, I would give them a try for all modified vehicles.
Yes. I've found that they are more expensive for standard, but once the mods start mounting up, they seem more and more reasonable.

And, very importantly, they seem to know what they are talking about.
Strangely enough from trying some quotes with varying levels of modifications the more you modify from standard the cheaper they get, for example the quote for my car with just a remap was £550, lowering it, fitting an exhaust and filter dropped the quote to £460!

CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

156 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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All the dash wiring needed to be changed, but the photo below shows how intertwined the wiring is with the dash, so we decided to remove the whole dashboard.



But for that the doors need to come off as the fixing for the dash is a huge Torx hidden behind the door. I wish we'd known this earlier as having the doors off would have made it easier earlier on.



Spoiler alert: the next photo has a sneak peak of the new tyres and wheels



And after several hours and eventually lifting it out by myself (cantilevered from one end, it was really heavy) here it is. Just need to do it all over again on the other car, then the reverse to get it back in!

It's mainly wiring, heater and aircon radiator.



I didn't get any photos of the estate without its dash, but here is some of the ST with out it, it really is stripped bare!




Megaflow

9,522 posts

227 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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CHR15 G said:
Spoiler alert: the next photo has a sneak peak of the new tyres and wheels

Steels... cool

Please tell me you are going to leave them as they are, without trims?

CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

156 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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Megaflow said:
Steels... cool

Please tell me you are going to leave them as they are, without trims?
I might put one wheel trim on each side, just for that neglected look.

pingu393

8,088 posts

207 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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CHR15 G said:
I might put one wheel trim on each side, just for that neglected look.
A real wolf in sheep's clothing cool

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

178 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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CHR15 G said:
I might put one wheel trim on each side, just for that neglected look.
thumbup

CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

156 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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pingu393 said:
CHR15 G said:
I might put one wheel trim on each side, just for that neglected look.
A real wolf in sheep's clothing cool
I was thinking a wolf in sheep's clothing, but with a couple of teeth showing and some claws-so the ultra observant would notice.