Jaguar F-Pace Non Runner

[Escy]

Darkslider said:

Nothing much to add other than if this was mine I'd be gutting and mapping out the dpf before doing any serious miles in it once repaired.

Yeah, the more research I do the more the DPF seems to be the cause of issues. Especially bore damage due to failed re-gens and oil dilution that leads to bottom end failure. Since this engine had bore damage and a partially blocked DPF, I'll be opening it up and removing it and welding it back together. I want to give it the best chance of being reliable.

I sent the ECU off on Monday for a re-map with the DPF coded out. Got it back Wednesday. Impressive turnaround just before Christmas. I sent it to RJTuning, only £120.

IMG_20221222_120304702_HDR by Thomas Prosser, on Flickr

[gf15]

Cracking work so far. I admire what you are doing and hope you get it all sorted within budget.

[Easternlight]

Can it pass an MOT without a DPF?

[lost in espace]

Easternlight said:

Can it pass an MOT without a DPF?

Yes if it is coded out and the dash light does not come on, it is hidden.

[B'stard Child]

Easternlight said:

Can it pass an MOT without a DPF?

Removed completely No - Gutted internally and no visible signs of that activity then Yes.

[James_33]

B'stard Child said:

Easternlight said:

Can it pass an MOT without a DPF?

Removed completely No - Gutted internally and no visible signs of that activity then Yes.

Presumably risky depending on the car and whether an MOT tester knows what he's looking at or not?

[Escy]

I'll open the dpf up, remove it and weld it up. I won't be removing any hardware, it'll look physically the same.

[stevemcs]

James_33 said:

Presumably risky depending on the car and whether an MOT tester knows what he's looking at or not?

Unless you can see the cut, it fails emissions or smokes you cannot fail it.

[sparkypups]

Hi Escy

Whilst you have the engine etc. removed, could you be so kind to identify where the drains are?

Mine are blocked and I am getting water ingress when it rains

[lemonslap]

stevemcs said:

James_33 said:

Presumably risky depending on the car and whether an MOT tester knows what he's looking at or not?

Unless you can see the cut, it fails emissions or smokes you cannot fail it.

As it’s a 2016, if it has any visible smoke on the test it will fail. OP you will likely need a temporary DPF installed for the
MOT, also watch out for issues caused by mapping out the DPF if the tuning company are using Quantum files.

[helix402]

lemonslap said:

As it’s a 2016, if it has any visible smoke on the test it will fail. OP you will likely need a temporary DPF installed for the
MOT, also watch out for issues caused by mapping out the DPF if the tuning company are using Quantum files.

Whilst I’m not a fan of DPF removal there is no reason a car with a DPF removed will smoke on an MOT test if mapped correctly.

[shalmaneser]

helix402 said:

lemonslap said:

As it’s a 2016, if it has any visible smoke on the test it will fail. OP you will likely need a temporary DPF installed for the
MOT, also watch out for issues caused by mapping out the DPF if the tuning company are using Quantum files.

Whilst I’m not a fan of DPF removal there is no reason a car with a DPF removed will smoke on an MOT test if mapped correctly.

Is the test at a consistent engine speed? All diesels overfuel on acceleration which causes smoke but should be ok if held at 2k rpm for example.

[stevemcs]

Test is engine temp 60 deg, rev to limiter.

[shalmaneser]

stevemcs said:

Test is engine temp 60 deg, rev to limiter.

Hard to see how that could be passed without a dpf.

[B'stard Child]

shalmaneser said:

stevemcs said:

Test is engine temp 60 deg, rev to limiter.

Hard to see how that could be passed without a dpf.

And yet DPF deletions seem quite common and PH isn't full of "Deleted my DPF - can't pass an MOT" Threads

[stevemcs]

B'stard Child said:

shalmaneser said:

stevemcs said:

Test is engine temp 60 deg, rev to limiter.

Hard to see how that could be passed without a dpf.

And yet DPF deletions seem quite common and PH isn't full of "Deleted my DPF - can't pass an MOT" Threads

We have failed very few,

[Escy]

I do have a YouTube channel and I'm recording some clips on this car with the aim of putting a video together, in a similar style to the non running Audi A8 video I did - bought, process of fixing it and then selling it in one short video (I won't be selling the F-Pace). I'm lacking charisma, my delivery is pretty bland but hopefully the content isn't. I've also got another video I should upload, a non running Mini Clubman Hampton I fixed a few months ago.

sparkypups said:

Hi Escy

Whilst you have the engine etc. removed, could you be so kind to identify where the drains are?

Mine are blocked and I am getting water ingress when it rains

I'm currently away but I'll look when I'm back home.

[carinaman]

Escy, I'd have taken the MINI if it saved £100 in fuel costs. It's a bit of a slog and there are better ways to spend that £100.

If you don't take the A30 you'll be driving past where you got that GTV V6 in 2012. Best wishes to you and your family for 2023 and thanks for another interesting PH thread.

[Hyde]

Escy said:

I do have a YouTube channel and I'm recording some clips on this car with the aim of putting a video together, in a similar style to the non running Audi A8 video I did - bought, process of fixing it and then selling it in one short video (I won't be selling the F-Pace). I'm lacking charisma, my delivery is pretty bland but hopefully the content isn't. I've also got another video I should upload, a non running Mini Clubman Hampton I fixed a few months ago.
.

I'm always on the hunt for Youtube motoring content.... think I have found the A8 video

Keen to see your further "Car Shenanigans" with the F-Pace and MINI Clubman

[Escy]

sparkypups said:

Hi Escy

Whilst you have the engine etc. removed, could you be so kind to identify where the drains are?

Mine are blocked and I am getting water ingress when it rains

If you mean the drains in the scuttle, you can access these from underneath if you remove the wheel arch liners. There isn't a rubber bung in them like on VAG stuff, it's just quite a large open hole (I dropped a spanner and it ended up on the floor). If you've got a sun roof, I'd think it's more likely the drains are blocked?

carinaman said:

Escy, I'd have taken the MINI if it saved £100 in fuel costs. It's a bit of a slog and there are better ways to spend that £100.

If you don't take the A30 you'll be driving past where you got that GTV V6 in 2012. Best wishes to you and your family for 2023 and thanks for another interesting PH thread.

We ended up with the Cayenne packed to the gills, we stood no chance in the Mini. Did I buy the GTV from you? That was possibly the best sounding car I've owned.