MDifficult’s E82 1M Coupe & Ariel Atom 3
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d_a_n1979 said:
That's a fantastic line up! Bet it was a superb day 
Cheers mate. I've said it a few times but I'm normally someone who would always choose to be out driving cars rather than standing around looking at them, especially for 8 hours! But I really enjoyed PH25, because of the mix and because it avoids some of the weird fetishism of other car events, especially single marque events. Loved it. Court_S said:
Good to catch up again today.
The red, white and blue pic looks decent!
The 1M looked grand after its recent detail. It sounded chunky when you started it up too.
Cheers Sam - it certainly has a soundtrack to match the sprit of the car (unrefined and unruly). There's a loose heat-shield somewhere under there thats started resonating at exactly 1000 rpm (I wonder if BMW bent something while fitting them arms, so going to get them to take a look at that this week while they finish the other work.)The red, white and blue pic looks decent!
The 1M looked grand after its recent detail. It sounded chunky when you started it up too.
Credit where credit is due, Part 2 of the rear arms work at BMW was excellent and a return to form.
Plus, they replaced both sets of arms under one warranty claim, so cheap as chips too. What I thought was a heat-shield rattle was also narrowed down to one of the spring fittings that holds the Akrapovic sections together - it's either too tight or (more likely) a little loose so I'll have a go at nipping it up. Quite understandably, BMW tech wasn't going to touch anything aftermarket.
Good service so often comes down to good communication. Listened to what I said, wrote it down, checked it, passed it to the tech, called me when it was ready, explained everything and checked I was happy, then walked me to the car. Even a little banter about my 'Please don't clean' post-its. Not much to ask, but this experience has probably saved them a customer.
What next for the 1M then...? It's been an expensive month with Tax, Insurance, the detailing, wheels, PPF, headlights etc so for now, I'm going to pour some petrol in it and use it as intended! There's a couple of very minor things that I'm tempted to do, but that's probably it for this summer.
Now... sun's finally out. Where did I put those Atom keys?
Plus, they replaced both sets of arms under one warranty claim, so cheap as chips too. What I thought was a heat-shield rattle was also narrowed down to one of the spring fittings that holds the Akrapovic sections together - it's either too tight or (more likely) a little loose so I'll have a go at nipping it up. Quite understandably, BMW tech wasn't going to touch anything aftermarket.
Good service so often comes down to good communication. Listened to what I said, wrote it down, checked it, passed it to the tech, called me when it was ready, explained everything and checked I was happy, then walked me to the car. Even a little banter about my 'Please don't clean' post-its. Not much to ask, but this experience has probably saved them a customer.
What next for the 1M then...? It's been an expensive month with Tax, Insurance, the detailing, wheels, PPF, headlights etc so for now, I'm going to pour some petrol in it and use it as intended! There's a couple of very minor things that I'm tempted to do, but that's probably it for this summer.
Now... sun's finally out. Where did I put those Atom keys?
MDifficult said:
Credit where credit is due, Part 2 of the rear arms work at BMW was excellent and a return to form.
Plus, they replaced both sets of arms under one warranty claim, so cheap as chips too. What I thought was a heat-shield rattle was also narrowed down to one of the spring fittings that holds the Akrapovic sections together - it's either too tight or (more likely) a little loose so I'll have a go at nipping it up. Quite understandably, BMW tech wasn't going to touch anything aftermarket.
Good service so often comes down to good communication. Listened to what I said, wrote it down, checked it, passed it to the tech, called me when it was ready, explained everything and checked I was happy, then walked me to the car. Even a little banter about my 'Please don't clean' post-its. Not much to ask, but this experience has probably saved them a customer.
What next for the 1M then...? It's been an expensive month with Tax, Insurance, the detailing, wheels, PPF, headlights etc so for now, I'm going to pour some petrol in it and use it as intended! There's a couple of very minor things that I'm tempted to do, but that's probably it for this summer.
Now... sun's finally out. Where did I put those Atom keys?
That’s a good result.Plus, they replaced both sets of arms under one warranty claim, so cheap as chips too. What I thought was a heat-shield rattle was also narrowed down to one of the spring fittings that holds the Akrapovic sections together - it's either too tight or (more likely) a little loose so I'll have a go at nipping it up. Quite understandably, BMW tech wasn't going to touch anything aftermarket.
Good service so often comes down to good communication. Listened to what I said, wrote it down, checked it, passed it to the tech, called me when it was ready, explained everything and checked I was happy, then walked me to the car. Even a little banter about my 'Please don't clean' post-its. Not much to ask, but this experience has probably saved them a customer.
What next for the 1M then...? It's been an expensive month with Tax, Insurance, the detailing, wheels, PPF, headlights etc so for now, I'm going to pour some petrol in it and use it as intended! There's a couple of very minor things that I'm tempted to do, but that's probably it for this summer.
Now... sun's finally out. Where did I put those Atom keys?
Interesting to see how they approached the warranty situation with a car with some mods versus how my local dealer approached my 335i earlier this year.
Court_S said:
That’s a good result.
Interesting to see how they approached the warranty situation with a car with some mods versus how my local dealer approached my 335i earlier this year.
It's a good point and I did wonder if it would come up - I've always worked on the basis that the exhaust has no impact on the suspension (for example). If that didn't work, I was going to point out that Akrapovic exhausts are actually supplied as options on some BMW M cars (although some are rebranded as M Performance). Interesting to see how they approached the warranty situation with a car with some mods versus how my local dealer approached my 335i earlier this year.
If I had engine/performance/suspension mods then I think I'd be expecting a rougher time! If I'd had spacers, I'd definitely have whipped them off before going in for the arms
MDifficult said:
Credit where credit is due, Part 2 of the rear arms work at BMW was excellent and a return to form.
Plus, they replaced both sets of arms under one warranty claim, so cheap as chips too. What I thought was a heat-shield rattle was also narrowed down to one of the spring fittings that holds the Akrapovic sections together - it's either too tight or (more likely) a little loose so I'll have a go at nipping it up. Quite understandably, BMW tech wasn't going to touch anything aftermarket.
Good service so often comes down to good communication. Listened to what I said, wrote it down, checked it, passed it to the tech, called me when it was ready, explained everything and checked I was happy, then walked me to the car. Even a little banter about my 'Please don't clean' post-its. Not much to ask, but this experience has probably saved them a customer.
What next for the 1M then...? It's been an expensive month with Tax, Insurance, the detailing, wheels, PPF, headlights etc so for now, I'm going to pour some petrol in it and use it as intended! There's a couple of very minor things that I'm tempted to do, but that's probably it for this summer.
Now... sun's finally out. Where did I put those Atom keys?
That's really good... Bowker BMW were the same with my F31; put a polite note on the passenger seat asking them not to clean it (it was spotless anyway, inside and out and with lines in the mats) Plus, they replaced both sets of arms under one warranty claim, so cheap as chips too. What I thought was a heat-shield rattle was also narrowed down to one of the spring fittings that holds the Akrapovic sections together - it's either too tight or (more likely) a little loose so I'll have a go at nipping it up. Quite understandably, BMW tech wasn't going to touch anything aftermarket.
Good service so often comes down to good communication. Listened to what I said, wrote it down, checked it, passed it to the tech, called me when it was ready, explained everything and checked I was happy, then walked me to the car. Even a little banter about my 'Please don't clean' post-its. Not much to ask, but this experience has probably saved them a customer.
What next for the 1M then...? It's been an expensive month with Tax, Insurance, the detailing, wheels, PPF, headlights etc so for now, I'm going to pour some petrol in it and use it as intended! There's a couple of very minor things that I'm tempted to do, but that's probably it for this summer.
Now... sun's finally out. Where did I put those Atom keys?
They did just that and left it be and the tech even stated they'd never get it as clean as I do anyway hahaI've just looked into PPF for mine for when I get the front bumper and bonnet resprayed (probably tops of the wings too so it blends in properly); feck
it's not cheap! May just get the bumper done as that's really what gets 95% of the stone chips!d_a_n1979 said:
That's really good... Bowker BMW were the same with my F31; put a polite note on the passenger seat asking them not to clean it (it was spotless anyway, inside and out and with lines in the mats) They did just that and left it be and the tech even stated they'd never get it as clean as I do anyway haha
I've just looked into PPF for mine for when I get the front bumper and bonnet resprayed (probably tops of the wings too so it blends in properly); feck it's not cheap! May just get the bumper done as that's really what gets 95% of the stone chips!
Cheers! PPF isn't for everyone - I think I've mentioned it a few times on this thread as I've had PPF on a few cars. If you don't mind a car with visible stone chipping then just live with the chips and get the bumper painted the week before you put it up for sale (or better yet, offer £500 off the asking at negotiating time and save yourself all the hassle!). It's by far the best method. They did just that and left it be and the tech even stated they'd never get it as clean as I do anyway hahaI've just looked into PPF for mine for when I get the front bumper and bonnet resprayed (probably tops of the wings too so it blends in properly); feck
it's not cheap! May just get the bumper done as that's really what gets 95% of the stone chips!But, if you love to use your car 'properly' and road rash just ruins the car for you (as it does me), PPF really is the only option, even if you just put it in the worst, most rash-prone areas. It seems like a lot of money (and it is) but just think about all those satisfying cleaning days where there's no scratches, no carpark scuffs, no stone chips and even the tar and bug splats come off easy. If you plan to own the car for 5 years then it's worth its weight in gold just for those moments
MDifficult said:
d_a_n1979 said:
That's really good... Bowker BMW were the same with my F31; put a polite note on the passenger seat asking them not to clean it (it was spotless anyway, inside and out and with lines in the mats) They did just that and left it be and the tech even stated they'd never get it as clean as I do anyway haha
I've just looked into PPF for mine for when I get the front bumper and bonnet resprayed (probably tops of the wings too so it blends in properly); feck it's not cheap! May just get the bumper done as that's really what gets 95% of the stone chips!
Cheers! PPF isn't for everyone - I think I've mentioned it a few times on this thread as I've had PPF on a few cars. If you don't mind a car with visible stone chipping then just live with the chips and get the bumper painted the week before you put it up for sale (or better yet, offer £500 off the asking at negotiating time and save yourself all the hassle!). It's by far the best method. They did just that and left it be and the tech even stated they'd never get it as clean as I do anyway hahaI've just looked into PPF for mine for when I get the front bumper and bonnet resprayed (probably tops of the wings too so it blends in properly); feck
it's not cheap! May just get the bumper done as that's really what gets 95% of the stone chips!But, if you love to use your car 'properly' and road rash just ruins the car for you (as it does me), PPF really is the only option, even if you just put it in the worst, most rash-prone areas. It seems like a lot of money (and it is) but just think about all those satisfying cleaning days where there's no scratches, no carpark scuffs, no stone chips and even the tar and bug splats come off easy. If you plan to own the car for 5 years then it's worth its weight in gold just for those moments
t outta me so they will be resprayed. The bonnet I may get away with getting my bodyshop pal to sot the stonechips and then get it properly mopped & polished. The wings are chip free!
I was my car weekly without fail; so the PPF will be paying for itself as soon as it's applied; I just need to get my brave up re its costs haha
That and the potential Bilstein B16s I've more or less decided to go for come Jan 2024 for the F31s suspension refresh, once it's out of extended warranty!
d_a_n1979 said:
That's it for me; both front & rear bumpers have had bad paint jobs before and you can see them; that annoys the st outta me so they will be resprayed. The bonnet I may get away with getting my bodyshop pal to sot the stonechips and then get it properly mopped & polished.
The wings are chip free!
I was my car weekly without fail; so the PPF will be paying for itself as soon as it's applied; I just need to get my brave up re its costs haha
That and the potential Bilstein B16s I've more or less decided to go for come Jan 2024 for the F31s suspension refresh, once it's out of extended warranty!
You definitely sound like the target customer! t outta me so they will be resprayed. The bonnet I may get away with getting my bodyshop pal to sot the stonechips and then get it properly mopped & polished. The wings are chip free!
I was my car weekly without fail; so the PPF will be paying for itself as soon as it's applied; I just need to get my brave up re its costs haha
That and the potential Bilstein B16s I've more or less decided to go for come Jan 2024 for the F31s suspension refresh, once it's out of extended warranty!
It goes without saying that this summer hasn't been a patch on last summer - meaning opportunities to enjoy the Atom have even fewer and further between.
But.. saints be praised... this bank holiday Monday threw up a beautifully sunny and (partially) warm morning so it was the perfect time to get back behind that teeny, tiny little wheel and blast down to the coast..
I actually hadn't driven it since the absolute drenching of a few weeks ago - it's so satisfying when it roars into life on the button. The roads were pretty empty - although the efforts to slow down the bikers around Loomies Cafe now mean a huge section of the brilliant A32 is average speed camera controlled. I need to find a new route for next time.
Anyway, not much to report - the Atom was fast and faultless and blew all the cobwebs out nicely. Just need some more sunshine please!
EDIT: Forgot to mention though.. I actually saw two other drivers out enjoying the sunshine in more extreme stuff than an Atom... hat-tip to the two old boys in their purple T-Bucket and the guys out in a murdered-out Radical!
But.. saints be praised... this bank holiday Monday threw up a beautifully sunny and (partially) warm morning so it was the perfect time to get back behind that teeny, tiny little wheel and blast down to the coast..
I actually hadn't driven it since the absolute drenching of a few weeks ago - it's so satisfying when it roars into life on the button. The roads were pretty empty - although the efforts to slow down the bikers around Loomies Cafe now mean a huge section of the brilliant A32 is average speed camera controlled. I need to find a new route for next time.
Anyway, not much to report - the Atom was fast and faultless and blew all the cobwebs out nicely. Just need some more sunshine please!
EDIT: Forgot to mention though.. I actually saw two other drivers out enjoying the sunshine in more extreme stuff than an Atom... hat-tip to the two old boys in their purple T-Bucket and the guys out in a murdered-out Radical!
Edited by MDifficult on Wednesday 30th August 11:14
Well, forget everything positive I said about BMW earlier in the thread. Absolutely useless members of the Cambridge University Netball Team.
I’ve used the 1M very little since they did the warranty work but as soon as I came to use it, I found two problems..
Firstly, I spotted a weird thick ring of sticky oil around the inside of one of the rear wheels - I’d assumed a CV joint had split. I checked the other side and.. same issue.
As soon as I stuck my finger into it, it was clear what it was… copperslip. Gallons of it. I jacked the car up and took off one rear wheel and it was EVERYWHERE - even the wheel bolts were covered in it when I took them out. They’d literally drowned everything, the hub, the mating faces, the bolt holes, EVERYTHING in a gallon of copperslip. As soon as I’d gone fast the centrifugal force had squeezed it all out and shot it all over the inside of the wheel.
Tidy job BMW...
This is the state of the wheel bolts when I pulled them out...
I reached for my can of brake cleaner and cleaned everything up, which took fking ages. Then applied a tiny amount to the appropriate place and put everything back together, and torqued it properly. Then did the other side. Absolutely furious.
But that wasn’t the end. I also noticed that my exhaust wasn’t quite level, and when I checked the rubbers I also noticed that it was actually only about 1mm from the chassis and was touching with the tiniest wiggle. They’d clearly loosened the exhaust and lowered it to make more room to fit the suspension arms, then refitted it wonk. Proper wonk.
Ridiculous. Why on earth people rate main dealer service history with this level of incompetence, I really don’t know.
I’ve decided to fix two birds with one stone. The Akrapovic exhaust is fantastic but it IS loud and IS a little irritating at 77Mph which is my usual cruise control speed on the M4, M3 and M25 (my usual camera-heavy motorways). The previous owner gave me the boxed and unused Akrapovic Bluetooth Valve system that was never fitted, so I’ve booked the car into a local Akrapovic specialist and they’re going to fit the valve and re-fit the exhaust so it’s straight and no risk of touching the chassis.
All in all though, it’s left me massively pissed off, with BMW in general and BMW Reading in particular. The exhaust fitment is just st attention to detail, but the copperslip is borderline dangerous incompetence.
On the plus side, at least this weird little thing is trying to put the smile back on my face...
I’ve used the 1M very little since they did the warranty work but as soon as I came to use it, I found two problems..
Firstly, I spotted a weird thick ring of sticky oil around the inside of one of the rear wheels - I’d assumed a CV joint had split. I checked the other side and.. same issue.
As soon as I stuck my finger into it, it was clear what it was… copperslip. Gallons of it. I jacked the car up and took off one rear wheel and it was EVERYWHERE - even the wheel bolts were covered in it when I took them out. They’d literally drowned everything, the hub, the mating faces, the bolt holes, EVERYTHING in a gallon of copperslip. As soon as I’d gone fast the centrifugal force had squeezed it all out and shot it all over the inside of the wheel.
Tidy job BMW...
This is the state of the wheel bolts when I pulled them out...
I reached for my can of brake cleaner and cleaned everything up, which took f
king ages. Then applied a tiny amount to the appropriate place and put everything back together, and torqued it properly. Then did the other side. Absolutely furious.But that wasn’t the end. I also noticed that my exhaust wasn’t quite level, and when I checked the rubbers I also noticed that it was actually only about 1mm from the chassis and was touching with the tiniest wiggle. They’d clearly loosened the exhaust and lowered it to make more room to fit the suspension arms, then refitted it wonk. Proper wonk.
Ridiculous. Why on earth people rate main dealer service history with this level of incompetence, I really don’t know.
I’ve decided to fix two birds with one stone. The Akrapovic exhaust is fantastic but it IS loud and IS a little irritating at 77Mph which is my usual cruise control speed on the M4, M3 and M25 (my usual camera-heavy motorways). The previous owner gave me the boxed and unused Akrapovic Bluetooth Valve system that was never fitted, so I’ve booked the car into a local Akrapovic specialist and they’re going to fit the valve and re-fit the exhaust so it’s straight and no risk of touching the chassis.
All in all though, it’s left me massively pissed off, with BMW in general and BMW Reading in particular. The exhaust fitment is just s
t attention to detail, but the copperslip is borderline dangerous incompetence. On the plus side, at least this weird little thing is trying to put the smile back on my face...
Edited by MDifficult on Thursday 14th September 18:51
MDifficult said:
Well, forget everything positive I said about BMW earlier in the thread. Absolutely useless members of the Cambridge University Netball Team.
I’ve used the 1M very little since they did the warranty work but as soon as I came to use it, I found two problems..
Firstly, I spotted a weird thick ring of sticky oil around the inside of one of the rear wheels - I’d assumed a CV joint had split. I checked the other side and.. same issue.
As soon as I stuck my finger into it, it was clear what it was… copperslip. Gallons of it. I jacked the car up and took off one rear wheel and it was EVERYWHERE - even the wheel bolts were covered in it when I took them out. They’d literally drowned everything, the hub, the mating faces, the bolt holes, EVERYTHING in a gallon of copperslip. As soon as I’d gone fast the centrifugal force had squeezed it all out and shot it all over the inside of the wheel.
Tidy job BMW...
This is the state of the wheel bolts when I pulled them out...
I reached for my can of brake cleaner and cleaned everything up, which took fking ages. Then applied a tiny amount to the appropriate place and put everything back together, and torqued it properly. Then did the other side. Absolutely furious.
But that wasn’t the end. I also noticed that my exhaust wasn’t quite level, and when I checked the rubbers I also noticed that it was actually only about 1mm from the chassis and was touching with the tiniest wiggle. They’d clearly loosened the exhaust and lowered it to make more room to fit the suspension arms, then refitted it wonk. Proper wonk.
Ridiculous. Why on earth people rate main dealer service history with this level of incompetence, I really don’t know.
I’ve decided to fix two birds with one stone. The Akrapovic exhaust is fantastic but it IS loud and IS a little irritating at 77Mph which is my usual cruise control speed on the M4, M3 and M25 (my usual camera-heavy motorways). The previous owner gave me the boxed and unused Akrapovic Bluetooth Valve system that was never fitted, so I’ve booked the car into a local Akrapovic specialist and they’re going to fit the valve and re-fit the exhaust so it’s straight and no risk of touching the chassis.
All in all though, it’s left me massively pissed off, with BMW in general and BMW Reading in particular. The exhaust fitment is just st attention to detail, but the copperslip is borderline dangerous incompetence.
On the plus side, at least this weird little thing is trying to put the smile back on my face...
That is, beyond belief!I’ve used the 1M very little since they did the warranty work but as soon as I came to use it, I found two problems..
Firstly, I spotted a weird thick ring of sticky oil around the inside of one of the rear wheels - I’d assumed a CV joint had split. I checked the other side and.. same issue.
As soon as I stuck my finger into it, it was clear what it was… copperslip. Gallons of it. I jacked the car up and took off one rear wheel and it was EVERYWHERE - even the wheel bolts were covered in it when I took them out. They’d literally drowned everything, the hub, the mating faces, the bolt holes, EVERYTHING in a gallon of copperslip. As soon as I’d gone fast the centrifugal force had squeezed it all out and shot it all over the inside of the wheel.
Tidy job BMW...
This is the state of the wheel bolts when I pulled them out...
I reached for my can of brake cleaner and cleaned everything up, which took f
king ages. Then applied a tiny amount to the appropriate place and put everything back together, and torqued it properly. Then did the other side. Absolutely furious.But that wasn’t the end. I also noticed that my exhaust wasn’t quite level, and when I checked the rubbers I also noticed that it was actually only about 1mm from the chassis and was touching with the tiniest wiggle. They’d clearly loosened the exhaust and lowered it to make more room to fit the suspension arms, then refitted it wonk. Proper wonk.
Ridiculous. Why on earth people rate main dealer service history with this level of incompetence, I really don’t know.
I’ve decided to fix two birds with one stone. The Akrapovic exhaust is fantastic but it IS loud and IS a little irritating at 77Mph which is my usual cruise control speed on the M4, M3 and M25 (my usual camera-heavy motorways). The previous owner gave me the boxed and unused Akrapovic Bluetooth Valve system that was never fitted, so I’ve booked the car into a local Akrapovic specialist and they’re going to fit the valve and re-fit the exhaust so it’s straight and no risk of touching the chassis.
All in all though, it’s left me massively pissed off, with BMW in general and BMW Reading in particular. The exhaust fitment is just s
t attention to detail, but the copperslip is borderline dangerous incompetence. On the plus side, at least this weird little thing is trying to put the smile back on my face...
Edited by MDifficult on Thursday 14th September 18:51
What an absolute bunch of fecking cockwombles!
Copper grease has no place there whatsoever; a tiny amount of graphite grease or Liqui Moly anti seize on the ring of the hub yes, but nowhere else. Even BMWs own TIS states not to use any on any mating face, at all...
So why the feck would they do that?!
Really glad you've been able to clean it up; unfortunately brake cleaner isn't great getting rid of that amount of cack... No wonder it took ages
d_a_n1979 said:
That is, beyond belief!
So why the feck would they do that?!
Honestly, I don't know. It's so weird that I can't really explain it. Even if it was an apprentice on his first day, surely they just follow the technical notes and have someone check it afterwards? or maybe it was something vengeful? I've no idea. So why the feck would they do that?!
helix402 said:
I’d complain. I worked at a main dealer many years ago. Even back then copper slip was banned from the workshop.
I tried initially but there's no route to complain other than over the phone and I gave up after the first try. Left it too long now and frankly I'm just going to move on to somewhere else. Kaveney said:
On a plus side you will not have any problems with seized wheel bolts or hubs 
You're right.. came off like a dream! Thankfully on my driveway instead of the outside lane of the M4 outnumbered said:
The CSL needed an Insp 1 service this month. The decision process whether to take it to Inchcape or a "well known local indie" was not as long one!
It's the downside of maintaining the 'death grip' of the BMW warranty. So.. I'm on the look out for a new local BMW dealership for next time.Anything else... we're using the same indie
MDifficult said:
It's the downside of maintaining the 'death grip' of the BMW warranty. So.. I'm on the look out for a new local BMW dealership for next time.
Anything else... we're using the same indie
Pretty sure it doesn’t need to go to a BMW dealership to keep the warranty intact, just has to use genuine BMW parts for servicing etc.Anything else... we're using the same indie
My mate runs a BMW indi and maintains loads of new / approved used Ms, can do all the online service history etc
JakeT said:
It’s been some time, but for a while everyone that lived on our close, and owned a BMW hated that certain BMW dealer in reading. DL in Hungerford was always the go-to choice when the cars were relatively new and under warranty.
Cheers. Going to have to do my research for the next time. RB Will said:
Pretty sure it doesn’t need to go to a BMW dealership to keep the warranty intact, just has to use genuine BMW parts for servicing etc.
My mate runs a BMW indi and maintains loads of new / approved used Ms, can do all the online service history etc
Thanks, I’ll look into it. I think the BMW warranty is explicit that I have to use a main dealer, but I’ll check. To be honest though, even though it’s mental, when I sell it the fact it’s got a book full of main dealer and a BMW warranty should be a selling point. Madness. My mate runs a BMW indi and maintains loads of new / approved used Ms, can do all the online service history etc
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