Bring that Beat back... 1991 Honda Beat

Bring that Beat back... 1991 Honda Beat

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Rocket.

Original Poster:

1,521 posts

251 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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I do not doubt it is more than get the saw out and hope for the best... part of why I put it on here is to see what ideas people have about how it should be done.

As for maintaining as is, a 2nd hand 25 plus year old windscreen from a breakers is £800 and I also need all new seals and I've been told again that is approx £800 so to keep as stock is a minimum of £1600 so not keen really. I also cannot see what the windscreen is doing for sill rigidity which cannot be replicated or enhanced by extra bracing across the dash bulkhead which would also have the added benefit of lowering the COG.

The potential IVA test bothers me more tbh as I know how hard it is to get passed these days.

Anyway as mentioned before in previous posts it maybe that the car needs more strengthening in certain areas and I am up for that and if need be I would sooner spend the £1600 or so to this end. So going forward I need to find someone who knows if or how and where exactly.

Edited by Rocket. on Thursday 1st November 22:04

Paul S4

1,186 posts

212 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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I would be very wary of chopping the roof off...as you probably know convertible versions of modern cars are heavier than the hardtop equivalents.

I had an original Lotus Elan convertible, which had a separate steel chassis. The body was fibreglass, and the windscreen on those cars added strength when it was installed. I had an aftermarket roll bar/side impact bar system fitted on mine which made the car so much more rigid and added a lot more 'peace of mind'.
I am just putting over my opinion, but modern cars are designed 'as a whole', and Honda will have spent a lot of energy etc in ensuring the structural integrity of your car with a roof, and to drastically alter that would be unwise, IMHO.

Chris Type R

8,070 posts

251 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Rocket. said:
As for maintaining as is, a 2nd hand 25 plus year old windscreen from a breakers is £800 and I also need all new seals and I've been told again that is approx £800 so to keep as stock is a minimum of £1600 so not keen really. I also cannot see what the windscreen is doing for sill rigidity which cannot be replicated or enhanced by extra bracing across the dash bulkhead which would also have the added benefit of lowering the COG.
I think I saw on the last series of Wheeler Dealer that they found somewhere which produced windscreens by cutting them from new screens for other cars. This was in the US - it's unlikely there's somewhere similar in the UK, but might warrant a google.

Episode 139, 1973 Saab 96 windscreen custom made using the windscreen from a 2014 Chevrolet Impala.

Edited by Chris Type R on Thursday 1st November 23:02

Rocket.

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251 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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It's been done in Japan (I think we can make it look better...) plus quite a bit of research shows where else to stiffen the shell to compensate and actually improve over the original.




L100NYY

35,257 posts

245 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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I really want a Beat/Cappuccino banghead

Chris Type R

8,070 posts

251 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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Rocket. said:
Is that panel gap for real ?

Rocket.

Original Poster:

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251 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Not a huge amount to update this week, more interior is out and a little surface rust present where roof leaked but nothing major.







Doors now stripped of window glass, electric motors and winder mechanism should be a good weight saving, think we might drop close to 100 kilos off the car overall so close to 650kg when done, got to make all of those 63hp count smile




James B

1,305 posts

246 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Never having seen one of these Honda Beat’s in the wild I was quite surprised to see this the other day!


ferrisbueller

29,386 posts

229 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Rocket. said:
It's been done in Japan (I think we can make it look better...) plus quite a bit of research shows where else to stiffen the shell to compensate and actually improve over the original.



This looks like a very bad idea, which is probably a good enough reason to do it.

Rocket.

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251 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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Thanks for pic James B, very similar to how mine was many years ago I suspect. Whenever I see them in the wild makes me chuckle how small they are, below the car that led to me buying one.



At last some shiny bits arriving from Japan, they were relatively cheap to buy but by time arrived in my hands they not far off 2.5 times initial outlay irked



Ferris yep rude not too, though some chap wants to steal my thunder by taking the roof off his bashed up 550 Maranello, now thats proper brave.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

165 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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At the rate work is progressing at speed you'll have finished the Beat rebuild before that fella has started on the Ferrari.

Rocket.

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1,521 posts

251 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Peter been busy on some basic photoshop, hope to end up with something like this but in silver.



Had a constructive or perhaps that should be destructive day, windscreen out and then the angle grinder, no going back now.









L100NYY

35,257 posts

245 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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clapclapclap

I am loving this project !!

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

165 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Ah ,a Beatster it is then.......biggrin

old'uns

543 posts

135 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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is it running 14" wheels back and front? fronts look too big unless it's the camera angle

samoht

5,799 posts

148 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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The Beat-down has begun!

Nunga

332 posts

110 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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No going back now...! tank

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

198 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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YES!

Superhoop

4,682 posts

195 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Does chopping the screen pillars mean that this will now require an IVA to get it registered, as surely this is a structural change to the body shell ?

Butter Face

30,497 posts

162 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Amazing. Well done.