ListerBell Stratos
Discussion
I believe the answer is yes with one of the main objectives of the LB chassis and suspension setup being to bring a degree of better control to the handling.
From the LB website:
All of these developments have helped to eliminate some of the notoriety associated with the driving experience of an original Stratos and the STR has become a much more predictable and neutral car which you can drive briskly without fear of the rear end overtaking you mid corner. The STR is equally at home whether it is being used as a fast road GT car or as a track day fun car.
There's a few folk on the owners sites who have driven both and are really complementary about how less of a wild handful the STR is near the limits.
From the LB website:
All of these developments have helped to eliminate some of the notoriety associated with the driving experience of an original Stratos and the STR has become a much more predictable and neutral car which you can drive briskly without fear of the rear end overtaking you mid corner. The STR is equally at home whether it is being used as a fast road GT car or as a track day fun car.
There's a few folk on the owners sites who have driven both and are really complementary about how less of a wild handful the STR is near the limits.
There’s a good autocar vid where the handling is explored in detail. Slow in, fast out, no funny business in the middle.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvs5jRi4h80&t=20...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvs5jRi4h80&t=20...
Caddyshack said:
Looking good! Will it need a quick Re tune once the body is on due to the difference in air flow etc?
Lots of tuners seem to test cars with the bonnet up. Personally, I agree with you, IMO, the car should be tested as close to the conditions that it will be driven.I'd also have tested it with the air filter in place, but they are the experts.
A brief update... so a12hr round trip to catch up with everyone to see and hear the car as it's progressing. Crikey.. it looks ace. I even sat in it and made proper vroom vroom noises using the accelerator. It was a bit intimidating actually!! It also felt odd sitting in the wrong side. Cool... but odd.
Anyhow.... Nice Ass!!
Nice Asses!! An original.... and mine
It sounds ace as well!! I took a few videos clips but most of them were spoiled by the sound of me cackling like an excited schoolboy so this one will have to do. My little iPhone was struggling to film the flames shooting out the back. Fortunately my wife has a better camera on her phone so when I get the car home I'll get her to stand up close and get some proper video of it. Being honest, the real life sound is far, far better than the video.
Video Link: ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iur3bi6wePQ
I've got some info graphs and paperwork to shuffle through but the feedback from the rolling road was all really positive.
In terms of numbers we're looking at 296.3 BHP with the rev limiter set to 7200rpm
However that's with the engine mapped for standard unleaded 95 RON fuel so there's a bit more to be had with Super Unleaded or the higher octane stuff like V-Power at 99 RON. Being Scottish and tight fisted I opted for standard fuel for the initial set-up.
That's also using the standard Alfa GTA cams on the engine which I'm led to believe are, relatively speaking, fairly mild. At the moment I'm minded to wait till the car is registered and on the road and then fit some slightly wilder re-profiled fast-road Piper cams before taking it home which should bump things up by another 15-20BHP. I'll take advice from LB on that but we did chat about it and there was an instant appeal to me. I know it's all pub-talk in terms of numbers and I'll hardly ever drive it in anger but at the moment it's a positive thought that I think I'd need to be talked out of. Relatively speaking it's not that expensive to do and fits in with my mental image of how I want the car to be.
It would then need to go back to SCS be re-mapped. It would have bodywork and airbox fitted at that time and if I'm feeling flush might do that with V-Power.
I'm also going to get the exhaust manifolds camcoated or perhaps a ceramic zircotec coating I'm not sure if there would be temperature issues in the STR or not but it's easier to do it now than later and I'll probably get them done when the car is away being trimmed.
Anyhow.... Nice Ass!!
Nice Asses!! An original.... and mine
It sounds ace as well!! I took a few videos clips but most of them were spoiled by the sound of me cackling like an excited schoolboy so this one will have to do. My little iPhone was struggling to film the flames shooting out the back. Fortunately my wife has a better camera on her phone so when I get the car home I'll get her to stand up close and get some proper video of it. Being honest, the real life sound is far, far better than the video.
Video Link: ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iur3bi6wePQ
I've got some info graphs and paperwork to shuffle through but the feedback from the rolling road was all really positive.
In terms of numbers we're looking at 296.3 BHP with the rev limiter set to 7200rpm
However that's with the engine mapped for standard unleaded 95 RON fuel so there's a bit more to be had with Super Unleaded or the higher octane stuff like V-Power at 99 RON. Being Scottish and tight fisted I opted for standard fuel for the initial set-up.
That's also using the standard Alfa GTA cams on the engine which I'm led to believe are, relatively speaking, fairly mild. At the moment I'm minded to wait till the car is registered and on the road and then fit some slightly wilder re-profiled fast-road Piper cams before taking it home which should bump things up by another 15-20BHP. I'll take advice from LB on that but we did chat about it and there was an instant appeal to me. I know it's all pub-talk in terms of numbers and I'll hardly ever drive it in anger but at the moment it's a positive thought that I think I'd need to be talked out of. Relatively speaking it's not that expensive to do and fits in with my mental image of how I want the car to be.
It would then need to go back to SCS be re-mapped. It would have bodywork and airbox fitted at that time and if I'm feeling flush might do that with V-Power.
I'm also going to get the exhaust manifolds camcoated or perhaps a ceramic zircotec coating I'm not sure if there would be temperature issues in the STR or not but it's easier to do it now than later and I'll probably get them done when the car is away being trimmed.
Edited by renmure on Thursday 17th October 21:51
shirt said:
looks great. why did you choose LHD?
The 492 originals were all LHD. The GP4 car I'm looking to base mine on was LHD so an easy decision.The LB chassis is built to accommodate both LHD and RHD from the outset so if / when I sell the car it's not a major job to convert it to RHD if needs be.
renmure said:
In terms of numbers we're looking at 296.3 BHP with the rev limiter set to 7200rpm
However that's with the engine mapped for standard unleaded 95 RON fuel so there's a bit more to be had with Super Unleaded or the higher octane stuff like V-Power at 99 RON. Being Scottish and tight fisted I opted for standard fuel for the initial set-up.
I'd be going for the fast road/track cams now too.
Great car, by the way.
MC Bodge said:
You must be spending quite a few quid on this car so a couple of extra quid on a tank of fuel isn't going to be that significant, surely?
I'd be going for the fast road/track cams now too.
Great car, by the way.
Oh, if I was advising anyone else I'd be saying the same as you. I don't need much encouraging I'd be going for the fast road/track cams now too.
Great car, by the way.
But it makes sense to get through the IVA test as straight forwardly as possible I guess, so the cams can wait till after that and I'll see if I can get my head around all these extra few pennies per gallon on the way to the tuners.
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