2021ish Taycan Turbo (..in green)
Discussion
monthefish said:
Weirdly, it's the rear ones that look wrong!
AB said:
I thought that. The fronts will be doing a better job of cooling the brakes but the rear ones will be more aerodynamic.
There are little arrows on the inside of the blades which indicate direction, so you can't really go wrong... unless you ignore them like I did 
puttything said:
What's the main driver for you, do you want a chance to spec again or just after the extra go?
I wouldn't change the spec too much other than exterior colour to be honest, and it would be Mamba (Gentian still my second favourite and probably the only colour I'd entertain. Spec wise I pretty much ticked every box, I'd add race-tex headlining and possibly HUD.The extra go would be nice and I also like the colour coded front/rear bits that the Turbo gets over the 4S.
The 4S is rapid enough but you get used to it very quickly.
Just read this whole thing back to front really interesting thanks for writing it all.
I’m trying to decide between chopping my wife’s Model S in for Model 3 performance or a RWD Taycan (i know stingy). I’m pretty used to the whole Tesla charging thing have been trying to find out if on the Taycan what happens with the sat nav and chargers?
Does it figure it all out for you based on IONITY? What happens if there aren’t any as the UK isn’t that filled in by them yet does it use alternative? Or are you totally on your own to figure it out.
Not that you seem particularly bothered but if it makes you feel better my Model S battery totally s
t itself inside the first month. Tesla had the car for 10 weeks before I got it back with a temporary battery, didn’t actually get my battery back for 9 months!!
How do you rate the handling compared to other stuff you have driven? Long shot have you tried any Tesla to compare?
I’m trying to decide between chopping my wife’s Model S in for Model 3 performance or a RWD Taycan (i know stingy). I’m pretty used to the whole Tesla charging thing have been trying to find out if on the Taycan what happens with the sat nav and chargers?
Does it figure it all out for you based on IONITY? What happens if there aren’t any as the UK isn’t that filled in by them yet does it use alternative? Or are you totally on your own to figure it out.
Not that you seem particularly bothered but if it makes you feel better my Model S battery totally s
t itself inside the first month. Tesla had the car for 10 weeks before I got it back with a temporary battery, didn’t actually get my battery back for 9 months!!How do you rate the handling compared to other stuff you have driven? Long shot have you tried any Tesla to compare?
fblm said:
Model S p100d and Taycan 4s incomparable IME. Model S handling is just nasty IMO and the 4S is shockingly good. I'm told, but haven't driven M3P much better. I guess it depends what you want from the car. If charging on the move hard to beat the Tesla for now I guess.
This is the thing I’m fairly certain the Taycan is much a nicer car in terms of build and driving. But I do trips like Hamburg, Salzburg, Geneva. The IONITY network in Europe looks really good though. I’m more worried about Norfolk to Manchester which I do quite often. It would be nice to know if like with a Tesla you can just hung it in the sat nav and be confident you will be fine. Buying a Tesla is playing it safe, pull of the Taycan is really strong though.
ntiz said:
This is the thing I’m fairly certain the Taycan is much a nicer car in terms of build and driving. But I do trips like Hamburg, Salzburg, Geneva. The IONITY network in Europe looks really good though. I’m more worried about Norfolk to Manchester which I do quite often. It would be nice to know if like with a Tesla you can just hung it in the sat nav and be confident you will be fine.
I'd like to try some euro trips, I've heard that the Ionity offering that side of the channel is a lot more convenient. Ref letting the car figure it out charging with the sat nav, I'd say definitely not. It will try to plan a trip for you, but it doesn't really seem to make sensible choices about charging options - it used to direct to unreliable Ecotricity chargers* all the time (as they're at the motorway services) and is pretty pessimistic about range. The availability of the charger(s) also never seems to be up to date on the built in system, they're generally all permanently red.
I think pre-planning for trips with non-Tesla public charging is still a requirement, you probably already know about it but https://abetterrouteplanner.com is great. This all said, you should make Norfolk -> Manchester pretty easily if you can charge at either end?
ntiz said:
Not that you seem particularly bothered but if it makes you feel better my Model S battery totally st itself inside the first month. Tesla had the car for 10 weeks before I got it back with a temporary battery, didn’t actually get my battery back for 9 months!!
Hah, that is quite reassuring actually! t itself inside the first month. Tesla had the car for 10 weeks before I got it back with a temporary battery, didn’t actually get my battery back for 9 months!!ntiz said:
How do you rate the handling compared to other stuff you have driven? Long shot have you tried any Tesla to compare?
Afraid I've not tried a Tesla. Compared to my F10 M5 it feels lighter on it's feet - more agile but also more pinned down over the bumps, with a better ride to boot. It's surprisingly confidence inspiring to throw down a B road, the limitations being it does seem to scrape easily when it gets bumpy, it's very wide which is a bit worrying when things get tight or there is traffic, and you do notice the weight when trying to slow it down quickly.
\* ofc, these are Gridserve now and all the new ones I've tried have worked great
fblm said:
Having bought my 4s in the UK and immediately exported it to a Caribbean island with no OPC this thread makes me nervous! So far any glitches I've had have been solved by turning it off and back on again!
Long may it continue 
edit: Recently ticked over 6000 miles, the car continues to be an event to use (every opportunity I can) and nothing else has gone wrong.
Edited by puttything on Tuesday 12th October 21:27
Really enjoyed reading this thread, firstly gotta say great spec, those wheels are fantastic and really set the car off in that colour - might be the nicest one I've seen.
Your first long trip in it sounds like hell to me, but sounds like subsequent trips have been much better? Hope things are more straightforward with the reliability now.
I'd be terrified of that bike rack failing but it does look cool with them on top. I do like the look of those matts, think I'm gonna order a pair myself
Also like that red e91, yours?
Your first long trip in it sounds like hell to me, but sounds like subsequent trips have been much better? Hope things are more straightforward with the reliability now.
I'd be terrified of that bike rack failing but it does look cool with them on top. I do like the look of those matts, think I'm gonna order a pair myself
Also like that red e91, yours?
Fantastic thread - a really enjoyable read.
I have just ordered my Taycan in mamba green (via my salary sacrifice scheme) and really looking forward to it.
I chuckled a little when I read you didn't want to wait 6 months for delivery - Porsche Cambridge have just advised me of an estimated delivery date of 30/12/2023 !!! 18 long months away!
I have just ordered my Taycan in mamba green (via my salary sacrifice scheme) and really looking forward to it.
I chuckled a little when I read you didn't want to wait 6 months for delivery - Porsche Cambridge have just advised me of an estimated delivery date of 30/12/2023 !!! 18 long months away!
Oh wow, the sheer thread abuse, 9 months of no updates. As I write this I've got 11088 miles, and a few more road trips done, a few more planned.
The bike rack was good up to at least 100MPH, not planned but good to know now. Like every time I tow a trailer I spend the first few miles constantly looking at it and then tend to forget they're on there.
The e91 has been great, it's my wife's car, another practical family orientated 4 (suppose it's actually 5) door, it's surprisingly rapid - I reckon it'd give my e39 M5 a run for it's money.
The wait for cars now is crazy, as is the effect it's had on second hand prices, some low milage examples were being traded for over list, madness.
whytheory said:
Really enjoyed reading this thread, firstly gotta say great spec, those wheels are fantastic and really set the car off in that colour - might be the nicest one I've seen.
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I'd be terrified of that bike rack failing but it does look cool with them on top. I do like the look of those matts, think I'm gonna order a pair myself
Also like that red e91, yours?
Thanks, good choice on the mats, I'm confident you'll be satisfied ..
I'd be terrified of that bike rack failing but it does look cool with them on top. I do like the look of those matts, think I'm gonna order a pair myself
Also like that red e91, yours?
The bike rack was good up to at least 100MPH, not planned but good to know now. Like every time I tow a trailer I spend the first few miles constantly looking at it and then tend to forget they're on there. whytheory said:
Your first long trip in it sounds like hell to me, but sounds like subsequent trips have been much better? Hope things are more straightforward with the reliability now.
Also like that red e91, yours?
First trip wasn't the ideal start, but it was definitely memorable! Reliability has been great since apart from losing the AC on one of the super hot days. Also like that red e91, yours?
The e91 has been great, it's my wife's car, another practical family orientated 4 (suppose it's actually 5) door, it's surprisingly rapid - I reckon it'd give my e39 M5 a run for it's money.
NK85 said:
Fantastic thread - a really enjoyable read.
I have just ordered my Taycan in mamba green (via my salary sacrifice scheme) and really looking forward to it.
I chuckled a little when I read you didn't want to wait 6 months for delivery - Porsche Cambridge have just advised me of an estimated delivery date of 30/12/2023 !!! 18 long months away!
Congrats, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait and obviously the best colour as well I have just ordered my Taycan in mamba green (via my salary sacrifice scheme) and really looking forward to it.
I chuckled a little when I read you didn't want to wait 6 months for delivery - Porsche Cambridge have just advised me of an estimated delivery date of 30/12/2023 !!! 18 long months away!
The wait for cars now is crazy, as is the effect it's had on second hand prices, some low milage examples were being traded for over list, madness.
This just popped up on my thread list. Since I last replied here (saying I bottled Mamba in favour of Gentian) I've ordered a Turbo S in Mamba, it was due next month but with Ukraine and 'battery factory fires' it's now scheduled for mid-December.
On the plus side, stupid residuals mean I've been offered near enough what I paid for my 4S (£125k) so it'll have been 18 months of depreciation free motoring.
On the plus side, stupid residuals mean I've been offered near enough what I paid for my 4S (£125k) so it'll have been 18 months of depreciation free motoring.
A family holiday at the end of last year to Pembrokeshire provided another opportunity to cement the the position of the Taycan as a practical family vehicle.
Not exactly the trans-European odyssey I'd prefer, that'll have to wait until the kids get a bit older.
Given the distance, the main challenge wasn't so much planning as packing, will all of this, 2 adults and 2 children fit in?
If you voted yes (with a liberal amount of dismantling) then you were correct! Take a cookie of your choice.
The Taycan boot is a good size, but slopes sharply at the back which means it can take a few attempts to arrange everything correctly to let it close, still, everything went in with room left over for several Marks and Spencer club sandwiches.
Strategically placed anti-scuff cardboard not in fact a factory option.
Knowing that we'd not be able to charge at the destination, and being November, stopping to charge along the way meant not needing to worry about electricity for day trips at the far end (in the cold weather total range drops to a bit of 200 miles).
A lot is said about the charging of an electric vehicle being terribly inconvenient, taking too long, never working and being impossible to find. I can only imagine the people who have these problems have never been blessed with children. By comparison, tending to the needs of a BEV is, in my experience far the lesser concern - it goes for far longer between stops than children and makes significantly less noise in the process.
I planned in a stop (for children and car) about half way at Portishead via the excellent ABRP app. As I've mentioned before I think we're still in the have-a-backup-plan stage of EV infrastructure in the UK, so the selection of charging and lunch options plus a marina and beach made it a winner.
As it happened we stopped exactly as planned, plugged into the very picturesque 50kW (eg, quite slow) charger and went to pick up some Waitrose branded lunch a short walk away. 45 minutes of child assisted shopping later and the car was almost full again. Job jobbed.
I mean, it probably wouldn't have been so nice if it was all full and hammering with rain..
Fast forward a few days of family flavoured activities in the local area and surviving easily purely on public charging our last night was made extra special by one of the children deciding to become violently ill.
Faced with the prospect of relatively little sleep and a potentially ill child in heavy return traffic we took the easy option of making a dash through the early hours while they slept, which was, frankly, fantastic. Abandoned Welsh roads enabled swift progress, the combination of led matrix headlights (magical) and ample power dispatching any slow moving trucks along the way.
We rolled into Ionity Chippenham about 07:30 as the kids were waking up in the back for some breakfast. Again here we suffered the much publicised EV dilemma: the charging is so inconvenient - I was only half way through my breakfast when my phone ping'd to tell me the battery was 100% full.
Ionity chargers: 350kW, lottery sign: unknown charging capacity.
I felt obliged to quick go and move it as not to block a bay. As it happened only a single delivery van had turned up by the time we left.
Not exactly the trans-European odyssey I'd prefer, that'll have to wait until the kids get a bit older.
Given the distance, the main challenge wasn't so much planning as packing, will all of this, 2 adults and 2 children fit in?
If you voted yes (with a liberal amount of dismantling) then you were correct! Take a cookie of your choice.
The Taycan boot is a good size, but slopes sharply at the back which means it can take a few attempts to arrange everything correctly to let it close, still, everything went in with room left over for several Marks and Spencer club sandwiches.
Strategically placed anti-scuff cardboard not in fact a factory option.
Knowing that we'd not be able to charge at the destination, and being November, stopping to charge along the way meant not needing to worry about electricity for day trips at the far end (in the cold weather total range drops to a bit of 200 miles).
A lot is said about the charging of an electric vehicle being terribly inconvenient, taking too long, never working and being impossible to find. I can only imagine the people who have these problems have never been blessed with children. By comparison, tending to the needs of a BEV is, in my experience far the lesser concern - it goes for far longer between stops than children and makes significantly less noise in the process.
I planned in a stop (for children and car) about half way at Portishead via the excellent ABRP app. As I've mentioned before I think we're still in the have-a-backup-plan stage of EV infrastructure in the UK, so the selection of charging and lunch options plus a marina and beach made it a winner.
As it happened we stopped exactly as planned, plugged into the very picturesque 50kW (eg, quite slow) charger and went to pick up some Waitrose branded lunch a short walk away. 45 minutes of child assisted shopping later and the car was almost full again. Job jobbed.
I mean, it probably wouldn't have been so nice if it was all full and hammering with rain..
Fast forward a few days of family flavoured activities in the local area and surviving easily purely on public charging our last night was made extra special by one of the children deciding to become violently ill.
Faced with the prospect of relatively little sleep and a potentially ill child in heavy return traffic we took the easy option of making a dash through the early hours while they slept, which was, frankly, fantastic. Abandoned Welsh roads enabled swift progress, the combination of led matrix headlights (magical) and ample power dispatching any slow moving trucks along the way.
We rolled into Ionity Chippenham about 07:30 as the kids were waking up in the back for some breakfast. Again here we suffered the much publicised EV dilemma: the charging is so inconvenient - I was only half way through my breakfast when my phone ping'd to tell me the battery was 100% full.
Ionity chargers: 350kW, lottery sign: unknown charging capacity.
I felt obliged to quick go and move it as not to block a bay. As it happened only a single delivery van had turned up by the time we left.
Edited by puttything on Monday 25th July 22:28
puttything said:
Thanks, good choice on the mats, I'm confident you'll be satisfied
Funny you should reply that week as I'd only just got around to ordering them, they really are great, I didn't even realise they clipped into factory mounting points.Enjoyed the write of up of the trip, very impressed you got all that gear in.
puttything said:
A family holiday at the end of last year to Pembrokeshire provided another opportunity to cement the the position of the Taycan as a practical family vehicle.
Not exactly the trans-European odyssey I'd prefer, that'll have to wait until the kids get a bit older.
Given the distance, the main challenge wasn't so much planning as packing, will all of this, 2 adults and 2 children fit in?
If you voted yes (with a liberal amount of dismantling) then you were correct! Take a cookie of your choice.
The Taycan boot is a good size, but slopes sharply at the back which means it can take a few attempts to arrange everything correctly to let it close, still, everything went in with room left over for several Marks and Spencer club sandwiches.
Strategically placed anti-scuff cardboard not in fact a factory option.
Knowing that we'd not be able to charge at the destination, and being November, stopping to charge along the way meant not needing to worry about electricity for day trips at the far end (in the cold weather total range drops to a bit of 200 miles).
A lot is said about the charging of an electric vehicle being terribly inconvenient, taking too long, never working and being impossible to find. I can only imagine the people who have these problems have never been blessed with children. By comparison, tending to the needs of a BEV is, in my experience far the lesser concern - it goes for far longer between stops than children and makes significantly less noise in the process.
I planned in a stop (for children and car) about half way at Portishead via the excellent ABRP app. As I've mentioned before I think we're still in the have-a-backup-plan stage of EV infrastructure in the UK, so the selection of charging and lunch options plus a marina and beach made it a winner.
As it happened we stopped exactly as planned, plugged into the very picturesque 50kW (eg, quite slow) charger and went to pick up some Waitrose branded lunch a short walk away. 45 minutes of child assisted shopping later and the car was almost full again. Job jobbed.
I mean, it probably wouldn't have been so nice if it was all full and hammering with rain..
Fast forward a few days of family flavoured activities in the local area and surviving easily purely on public charging our last night was made extra special by one of the children deciding to become violently ill.
Faced with the prospect of relatively little sleep and a potentially ill child in heavy return traffic we took the easy option of making a dash through the early hours while they slept, which was, frankly, fantastic. Abandoned Welsh roads enabled swift progress, the combination of led matrix headlights (magical) and ample power dispatching any slow moving trucks along the way.
We rolled into Ionity Chippenham about 07:30 as the kids were waking up in the back for some breakfast. Again here we suffered the much publicised EV dilemma: the charging is so inconvenient - I was only half way through my breakfast when my phone ping'd to tell me the battery was 100% full.
Ionity chargers: 350kW, lottery sign: unknown charging capacity.
I felt obliged to quick go and move it as not to block a bay. As it happened only a single delivery van had turned up by the time we left.
I had to charge mine at Chippenham about a week ago - max I got was 88kW (all 4 chargers in use) which was very disappointing compared to Collumpton. Out of interest what speed did you get?Not exactly the trans-European odyssey I'd prefer, that'll have to wait until the kids get a bit older.
Given the distance, the main challenge wasn't so much planning as packing, will all of this, 2 adults and 2 children fit in?
If you voted yes (with a liberal amount of dismantling) then you were correct! Take a cookie of your choice.
The Taycan boot is a good size, but slopes sharply at the back which means it can take a few attempts to arrange everything correctly to let it close, still, everything went in with room left over for several Marks and Spencer club sandwiches.
Strategically placed anti-scuff cardboard not in fact a factory option.
Knowing that we'd not be able to charge at the destination, and being November, stopping to charge along the way meant not needing to worry about electricity for day trips at the far end (in the cold weather total range drops to a bit of 200 miles).
A lot is said about the charging of an electric vehicle being terribly inconvenient, taking too long, never working and being impossible to find. I can only imagine the people who have these problems have never been blessed with children. By comparison, tending to the needs of a BEV is, in my experience far the lesser concern - it goes for far longer between stops than children and makes significantly less noise in the process.
I planned in a stop (for children and car) about half way at Portishead via the excellent ABRP app. As I've mentioned before I think we're still in the have-a-backup-plan stage of EV infrastructure in the UK, so the selection of charging and lunch options plus a marina and beach made it a winner.
As it happened we stopped exactly as planned, plugged into the very picturesque 50kW (eg, quite slow) charger and went to pick up some Waitrose branded lunch a short walk away. 45 minutes of child assisted shopping later and the car was almost full again. Job jobbed.
I mean, it probably wouldn't have been so nice if it was all full and hammering with rain..
Fast forward a few days of family flavoured activities in the local area and surviving easily purely on public charging our last night was made extra special by one of the children deciding to become violently ill.
Faced with the prospect of relatively little sleep and a potentially ill child in heavy return traffic we took the easy option of making a dash through the early hours while they slept, which was, frankly, fantastic. Abandoned Welsh roads enabled swift progress, the combination of led matrix headlights (magical) and ample power dispatching any slow moving trucks along the way.
We rolled into Ionity Chippenham about 07:30 as the kids were waking up in the back for some breakfast. Again here we suffered the much publicised EV dilemma: the charging is so inconvenient - I was only half way through my breakfast when my phone ping'd to tell me the battery was 100% full.
Ionity chargers: 350kW, lottery sign: unknown charging capacity.
I felt obliged to quick go and move it as not to block a bay. As it happened only a single delivery van had turned up by the time we left.
Edited by puttything on Monday 25th July 22:28
I’m starting to find it quite annoying at IONITY chargers when I have to wait because there are cars with a max rate of 50kW rate using them and they sit there for a full charge. Very frustrating when I can be almost empty and basically done in 24mins. I feel like I’m becoming an EV snob…… because I’ve got a £100k car with a high charge rate I should somehow be entitled to just turn up and charge instantly. First world problems and I hang my head in shame…..
Edited by W12GT on Tuesday 30th August 20:03
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