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TR4man said:
Your son’s S2000 looks to be worthy of it’s own thread.
It’s does, he just leaves 18 month gaps posting in it 
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Short update!
Over enthusiastic use of salt by our local council stopped play in November, I wouldn’t normally be put off driving but after the hours I’ve got in the bodyshell of this thing I’m going to look after it a bit better this time.
Grabbed the last sunny afternoon before the salt to give it a thorough rinse and blow dry before parking it up over Xmas until last weekend.
The first Cars & Coffee of the year had a great and varied turn out. Took the very long way home as it never ceases to make me smile this car.
I didn’t join the Porsche parking
My friends 944 with his newly rebuilt engine and immaculately painted shell with some bespoke body lines and rear end mods that are so subtle they look stock but really tidy it up.
Evening drive with some work cars making even Crewe look good in the sunset
Still need to do the winter jobs I’ve not done, new handbrake shoes etc and a service would be good!
Over enthusiastic use of salt by our local council stopped play in November, I wouldn’t normally be put off driving but after the hours I’ve got in the bodyshell of this thing I’m going to look after it a bit better this time.
Grabbed the last sunny afternoon before the salt to give it a thorough rinse and blow dry before parking it up over Xmas until last weekend.
The first Cars & Coffee of the year had a great and varied turn out. Took the very long way home as it never ceases to make me smile this car.
I didn’t join the Porsche parking
My friends 944 with his newly rebuilt engine and immaculately painted shell with some bespoke body lines and rear end mods that are so subtle they look stock but really tidy it up.
Evening drive with some work cars making even Crewe look good in the sunset
Still need to do the winter jobs I’ve not done, new handbrake shoes etc and a service would be good!
Percy. said:
Saw your car posted quite alot on the Facebook group!
I didn't managed to get over this time
We are in the process of purchasing a new house, which is alot closer to The Old Piggery so will be alot easier to get down there
Sounds good, not sure when the next one is, probably 3rd March if the weather isn’t miserable. I didn't managed to get over this time
We are in the process of purchasing a new house, which is alot closer to The Old Piggery so will be alot easier to get down there
So with only a few weeks to go before another massive Euro road trip across some mountains I can’t put those winter jobs off any longer. Particularly as it’s officially summer time
Relative to some on the trip I’ve got the easy prep! Engine is staying in…
Job list:
- Look at points and decide they are still there and ‘ain’t broke don’t fix it’
- Valve clearances? They have some clearance so they will be fine
- Clean plugs - Actually did this one
- Oil change
- New handbrake shoes, hardware etc - Still work in progress, but I’ve done one side
Other than that I might clean the idle jets and top up the washer fluid
Can’t wait to get back out there on a long run. Done a few local things, but it’s not the same.
OE filter where the Porsche logo points the wrong way when tightened up. Boo.
Fiendish handbrake parts putting up a fight. Only need 10 pairs of hands, like trying to set 5 mousetraps at the same time. Ones that were on there may well have been original. I’ve not replaced them in the 22 years I’ve had the car and they looked old when I got it!
On the way back from the Alps last time they made a horrible noise at the last services on the M6 which then suddenly went away again. It seems the spring that sits between the two expanders on this side had rusted and collapsed, meaning things weren’t quite tensioned as they should be. Guess something went off centre as there is signs of contact between the springs that hold the shoes on and the drum. Probably enough for the horrible noise.
Typical garage scenes.
Relative to some on the trip I’ve got the easy prep! Engine is staying in…
Job list:
- Look at points and decide they are still there and ‘ain’t broke don’t fix it’
- Valve clearances? They have some clearance so they will be fine
- Clean plugs - Actually did this one
- Oil change
- New handbrake shoes, hardware etc - Still work in progress, but I’ve done one side
Other than that I might clean the idle jets and top up the washer fluid
Can’t wait to get back out there on a long run. Done a few local things, but it’s not the same.
OE filter where the Porsche logo points the wrong way when tightened up. Boo.
Fiendish handbrake parts putting up a fight. Only need 10 pairs of hands, like trying to set 5 mousetraps at the same time. Ones that were on there may well have been original. I’ve not replaced them in the 22 years I’ve had the car and they looked old when I got it!
On the way back from the Alps last time they made a horrible noise at the last services on the M6 which then suddenly went away again. It seems the spring that sits between the two expanders on this side had rusted and collapsed, meaning things weren’t quite tensioned as they should be. Guess something went off centre as there is signs of contact between the springs that hold the shoes on and the drum. Probably enough for the horrible noise.
Typical garage scenes.
In another exciting update I got to test drive my new custom Alcantara cushions (thanks to my mums sewing skills) to help my elderly back.
and topped up the gearbox oil, before the big Euro run. I know it shouldn’t go down, but after a good few thousand miles since the rebuild it needed about 250ml.
Think I’m ready to roll now Even checked the tyre pressures…. Pyrenees hear we come!
and topped up the gearbox oil, before the big Euro run. I know it shouldn’t go down, but after a good few thousand miles since the rebuild it needed about 250ml.
Think I’m ready to roll now
Even checked the tyre pressures…. Pyrenees hear we come!gary71 said:
In another exciting update I got to test drive my new custom Alcantara cushions (thanks to my mums sewing skills) to help my elderly back.
and topped up the gearbox oil, before the big Euro run. I know it shouldn’t go down, but after a good few thousand miles since the rebuild it needed about 250ml.
Think I’m ready to roll now Even checked the tyre pressures…. Pyrenees hear we come!
Reading this has Really made the want for another air cooled 911 in my life Uber strong….and topped up the gearbox oil, before the big Euro run. I know it shouldn’t go down, but after a good few thousand miles since the rebuild it needed about 250ml.
Think I’m ready to roll now
Even checked the tyre pressures…. Pyrenees hear we come!gf15 said:
Great buzz before the trip. Look forward to the pictures.
Enjoy.
Getting close now Enjoy.
Big drive through France from St Malo, then 6 days around the Pyrenees then slog back home! Doing an overnight ferry this time to balance the driving / hotels / time equation. Still got a 4hr drive to Portsmouth though…
I’ll pop up so photos from the Euro drive once I’ve done some editing, but my own journey was cut short by a loud mechanical clicking noise when you turn right.
I’d made it all the way down to the Pyrenees and had a wonderful couple of days in the mountains, but after some ‘spirited’ driving keeping the moderns honest the ticking started and got inside my head! I’d tried to check anything obvious in the hotel carpark, lose driveshaft bolts, a catching handbrake etc, but to no avail.
After another day of nursing it I decided to quit whilst I was ahead and drove in the straightest possible line home.
My prime suspect is the diff, so now I’m home and after checking the handbrake mechanisms, and every bolt I can find I pulled it out.
A somewhat hairy gearbox drain plug…
Another ‘bits of your car you’d rather not see’ pic!
I’d made it all the way down to the Pyrenees and had a wonderful couple of days in the mountains, but after some ‘spirited’ driving keeping the moderns honest the ticking started and got inside my head! I’d tried to check anything obvious in the hotel carpark, lose driveshaft bolts, a catching handbrake etc, but to no avail.
After another day of nursing it I decided to quit whilst I was ahead and drove in the straightest possible line home.
My prime suspect is the diff, so now I’m home and after checking the handbrake mechanisms, and every bolt I can find I pulled it out.
A somewhat hairy gearbox drain plug…
Another ‘bits of your car you’d rather not see’ pic!
So in detail there is some evidence of surface damage on the sun/planet gears, but that could have been there for years, certainly not one tooth only with a bit missing or anything.
One bigger issue, although I struggle to link it to a ‘click’, is that the LH diff bearing (the one in the cover) has spun on the shaft to the point it came straight off by hand when it should be a tight driving fit.
I’ve also checked the preload this afternoon and it’s next to zero in that the diff only just stops moving as the cover seats down, it should be zero with the cover still some 0.3mm (or more) off fitted. Backlash is also excessive, so some work with shims needed here.
As part of the investigation I stripped and regreased all the CV joints (fun!)
Nothing of note except some minor contact between the end of the shaft and the grease cap on the outboard end. So I added a little more clearance. These caps are later parts that don’t quite fit into the outer stub axles so have been adjusted already. They’ve been there years though so nothing’s changed.
I’ve ordered a new diff bearing, some er ‘bearing glue’ and a load of oil (it will be coming apart again for sure!) and I’ll get a selection of shims so I can get some preload.
Other than that I’m going to put it back together and see if the noise has gone.
It’s unlikely so I’ll then need to go deeper which will probably involve a new Quaife diff…
Got to go through this process though…
Nothing of note except some minor contact between the end of the shaft and the grease cap on the outboard end. So I added a little more clearance. These caps are later parts that don’t quite fit into the outer stub axles so have been adjusted already. They’ve been there years though so nothing’s changed.
I’ve ordered a new diff bearing, some er ‘bearing glue’ and a load of oil (it will be coming apart again for sure!) and I’ll get a selection of shims so I can get some preload.
Other than that I’m going to put it back together and see if the noise has gone.
It’s unlikely so I’ll then need to go deeper which will probably involve a new Quaife diff…
Got to go through this process though…
jamesson said:
I had a similar clicking noise on my 1984 Carrera 3.2 and it turned out to be the CV joint (I forget which side). A new one cured it completely.
I didn't have the skills or the kit to find it myself, unlike you!
Let’s hope a CV clean up will fix it! I’ve found a few issues so this teardown is still worth it. I didn't have the skills or the kit to find it myself, unlike you!
As ever I’ll be changing two things at once (CV rebuild and new diff bearing) so if the noise goes away I won’t know which one it was!
So ignoring the mechanical trauma for now and reflecting back on the actual trip!
As ever it was all arranged by a friend who I’ve known for years through DDK, our disparate group of early Porsche fans that don’t abide any normal club conventions and all the better for it.
Many of the group (10 cars, 12 people) took the 2 day Portsmouth/Santander ferry, I choose the Portsmouth- St Malo route mainly as I hate ferries!
Going out at least this means you turn up in the evening, watch the sunset then wake up in France at 8 having cut out a good chunk of miles (compared to the tunnel) and a night in a hotel. Secondary advantage is not having to lap the M25 as I come down from the North West
We pressed on that day down to just outside Bilbau, a solid 9.5 hours drive. 8.5 of which was melting hot and the last 1hr of which was torrential rain!
1st fuel stop of many:
We met up with the 964 RS boys (who did the Caen ferry) on route somewhere in France and cruised together for a few hours before they realised they probably should book a hotel…
Arriving at our (booked!) hotel outside Bilbau was a bit damp, but a really great place
When near Bilbau the following morning it was rude not to try and grab a quick landmark pic!
This hotel was a parador, cost no more than a premier inn!
Stunning hotel from an architecture and facility perspective with honestly the worst food and restaurant service I’ve ever had! Let’s hope it’s just off season or something!
Next we head to the mountains
As ever it was all arranged by a friend who I’ve known for years through DDK, our disparate group of early Porsche fans that don’t abide any normal club conventions and all the better for it.
Many of the group (10 cars, 12 people) took the 2 day Portsmouth/Santander ferry, I choose the Portsmouth- St Malo route mainly as I hate ferries!
Going out at least this means you turn up in the evening, watch the sunset then wake up in France at 8 having cut out a good chunk of miles (compared to the tunnel) and a night in a hotel. Secondary advantage is not having to lap the M25 as I come down from the North West
We pressed on that day down to just outside Bilbau, a solid 9.5 hours drive. 8.5 of which was melting hot and the last 1hr of which was torrential rain!
1st fuel stop of many:
We met up with the 964 RS boys (who did the Caen ferry) on route somewhere in France and cruised together for a few hours before they realised they probably should book a hotel…
Arriving at our (booked!) hotel outside Bilbau was a bit damp, but a really great place
When near Bilbau the following morning it was rude not to try and grab a quick landmark pic!
This hotel was a parador, cost no more than a premier inn!
Stunning hotel from an architecture and facility perspective with honestly the worst food and restaurant service I’ve ever had! Let’s hope it’s just off season or something!
Next we head to the mountains
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