Ford Focus Mk2 [ST] Estate Sleeper - Build Thread

Ford Focus Mk2 [ST] Estate Sleeper - Build Thread

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CHR15 G

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267 posts

155 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Jonesy23 said:
CHR15 G said:
KillerHERTZ said:
Excellent project!


Whats the deal once you have finished, will you need to re-register it as a new vehicle?
Thank you!

No, I just need to send proof to the DVLA of the new engine size, fuel and tax class and they will update the log book. If I was 'upgrading' to the diesel from the T5 then I think they would want to come and have a look as I would then be paying them less VED, but as I'll be paying them more money then I think they're well up for it!

Insurance with Adrain Flux is very reasonable indeed, I would give them a try for all modified vehicles.
I'd have thought that as you've pulled the complete front assembly from the ST you're actually getting a bit short on ID points, you've got a 'new' engine, transmission, the steering rack has changed, the front axle has changed and the front suspension has changed. So if someone pushed the point you've technically only got the bodyshell giving you points to keep the ID which isn't enough.

Unless of course we remember the stage you didn't take photos of where you moved the ST engine & transmission onto the original subframe with the original steering rack and suspension from the estate. wink
Yes, of course I swaped the ST engine and 'box onto the original subframe (which already had the steering rack and suspension mounted on it), but it wasn't very exciting in the photos so I opted to leave them out. I can put them back on if people are interested in seeing an identical set of components though...?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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CHR15 G said:
Yes, of course I swaped the ST engine and 'box onto the original subframe (which already had the steering rack and suspension mounted on it), but it wasn't very exciting in the photos so I opted to leave them out. I can put them back on if people are interested in seeing an identical set of components though...?
i wouldn't other he is just trying to be a smart arse, i am sure a lot of other people are enjoying the thread so keep posting the good stuff.

Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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I love a sleeper - not had chance to read the whole thread yet, though I will.

CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

155 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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So after much head scratching, Google searching and chocolate biscuits I have come to the conclusion that there were two possible causes:
1. An electronic problem. Either the PATS system has 'forgotten' the code, or it needs to be reset because half of its been plugged into another system. If this is the problem then I have a problem and need to get a man in.
2. An electrical problem. The dash isn't communicating with the engine ECU because one of them isn't powered correctly. When electrical gremlins strike the first (and only) thing I know to try is earths. So I decided to check and clean all the earth points from front to back.

Checked the front most earth point which is one of three for the engine loom, and this happened. The picture speaks for itself.


AdamIndy

1,661 posts

105 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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CHR15 G said:
So after much head scratching, Google searching and chocolate biscuits I have come to the conclusion that there were two possible causes:
1. An electronic problem. Either the PATS system has 'forgotten' the code, or it needs to be reset because half of its been plugged into another system. If this is the problem then I have a problem and need to get a man in.
2. An electrical problem. The dash isn't communicating with the engine ECU because one of them isn't powered correctly. When electrical gremlins strike the first (and only) thing I know to try is earths. So I decided to check and clean all the earth points from front to back.

Checked the front most earth point which is one of three for the engine loom, and this happened. The picture speaks for itself.

It's alive, IT'S ALIVE!!

Glad it was something simple!

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

177 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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Good one, glad it was something basic. smile

Sf_Manta

2,195 posts

192 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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pingu393

7,890 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Did it make a "Ta Da" noise when it sprang into life smile?

ZX10R NIN

27,703 posts

126 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Nice work

Fastdruid

8,678 posts

153 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Hurrah!

FWIW after having a similar issue on a bike with dodgy earth's I've taken to using copperslip on the earth's. It both prevents corrosion and the copper in it helps with the connection.

yllos

37 posts

128 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Awesome work!

Megaflow

9,485 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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CHR15 G said:
So after much head scratching, Google searching and chocolate biscuits I have come to the conclusion that there were two possible causes:
1. An electronic problem. Either the PATS system has 'forgotten' the code, or it needs to be reset because half of its been plugged into another system. If this is the problem then I have a problem and need to get a man in.
2. An electrical problem. The dash isn't communicating with the engine ECU because one of them isn't powered correctly. When electrical gremlins strike the first (and only) thing I know to try is earths. So I decided to check and clean all the earth points from front to back.

Checked the front most earth point which is one of three for the engine loom, and this happened. The picture speaks for itself.

woohoo

Well played sir!

cool

rohrl

8,754 posts

146 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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That must be a relief.

Dealing with electronics problems is such a pain in the arse, inevitably involving lying upside down on the passenger seat, head in the footwell, feeling like setting fire to the whole damned car.

Glad it was a simple fix.

Barchettaman

6,343 posts

133 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Fantastic news, OP!

I love this thread.

Chris x

271 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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This is amazing! Love it!

James 33

366 posts

105 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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Im loving this project Chris, great work. I know the feeling of something not starting. When i build my chop i'd wired the CDI unit backwards and spent a week trying to work out what was wrong. It's a great feeling though when you finally sus it out and it fires up. Glad it was something simple.
Is there much left to do now?

CHR15 G

Original Poster:

267 posts

155 months

Thursday 29th October 2015
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Thanks for all the encouragement guys!

Still quite a list of things to do, off the top of my head:

1. Check clutch
2. Check all gears select
3. Check brakes
4. Lower onto wheels
5. Test drive around the farm
6. Fit dashboard
7. Carpet
8. Rear seats
9. Fit pretensioners onto new seats
10. Front seats
11. Swap all door cards
12. Front wings
13. Front bumper
14. Bonnet
15. Align all panels
16. Wire in front indicators
17. Small water leak
18. Fit headlights
19. Engine bay trim
20. Wiper arms
21. Wheel arch liners
22. Undertray
23. Fit doors
24. Rear springs
25. Rear dampers
26. Tow bar
27. Exhaust system

That's what I can currently remember, not in the right order though. We actually started using this perfectly placed orangeboard to make a list...



I also thought I would take this opportunity to show off my nut and bolt filing system. Everything set of fasteners that we took off got put in their own bag and immediately labeled up with something descriptive.



And a couple of new additions to the barn; my friend's racing Alfa GTV 2000 105 series (under the cover) which has been striped down and awaiting body restoration (we will start the rebuild soon), and the 1600 105 series (white) that he is borrowing in the mean time. It's getting a bit full!



And in project related news, the headlights work (and so do all other lights).


Muzzer79

10,143 posts

188 months

Thursday 29th October 2015
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pingu393

7,890 posts

206 months

Thursday 29th October 2015
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Muzzer79 said:
I'm sure you don't mean it, but this guy looks like he's clapping sarcastically.

Top work, Chris clap.

BenWRXSEi

2,348 posts

135 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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Epic work, I think you're building my ideal car. clap

A friend of mine had a Focus ST 2.5 a couple of years ago, I vaguely remember him having a nightmare getting the water pump changed as the T5 is such a tight fit in the engine bay. Apologies if you've already thought of this and I've missed it, but might be worth a look while you've got the car in pieces?