E28 - the long slog

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TurboBlue

672 posts

165 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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Glad to see that you're continuing with the project; you've put in too much effort to break for parts I'd have thought.

Straight six from an M3?

melvster

6,841 posts

187 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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Glad to see the project is back on.

Have you chosen the S50B30 unit ?

Output Flange

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16,824 posts

213 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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I wasn't really canning the whole project, just the old engine choice.

Yes, this is the S50B30. Now, normally I'd advocate the Evo lump over the 3.0, but there are two reasons why I've gone for it here:

1. You have to use an M50 sump to stand a chance of it fitting in an E28. The Evo's twin pickups wouldn't work with that pan.

2. An engine came up for sale from someone I can trust - always helps when you're buying without hearing it run first.

I still need to get some more bits for it - need an alternator, AFM, ECU and VNC and a few other bits and bobs.

The intention is to fit new service parts, new clutch kit, get the TBs soda-blasted, repaint the plenum, repaint the cam cover etc etc.

And then fit it.

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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I've got a 328 alternator if it's any help.

Output Flange

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16,824 posts

213 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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Thanks, but sadly not.

Output Flange

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16,824 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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Minor update:

Stuff has been ordered. £800 with BMW earlier for various bits and bobs (new rev counter, GrpN restrictor, half-shaft rebuild kits, breather hoses etc etc), £400 for some Throwing Stars with tyres (don't think they'll be a permanent addition, but will be handing for moving it around) and more to get.

Up next is a well-deserved holiday, starting tomorrow. I'm hoping to arrive home to a plethora of deliveries, plus I've got some seats lined up that'll need collecting when I'm back.

Also still need to order an alternator, PAS pump, rad, oil rad, expansion tank and various sundries to go with it. Aiming to order that in about a week's time, to arrive when I get back.

And then it's all systems go. I'd like to get the running gear in and working by the end of Sept, roughly, to then get to the bodyshop as soon as is practicable thereafter. And then the trimmers. And then the shakedown. And then, and then, and then.

I love projects, me.

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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I have an aluminium race radiator for an M3. Brand new.

Doesn't have a port for a temp sensor though (I had it welded up); not sure how important that is.

Output Flange

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16,824 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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Don't think it matters one jot.

Got a pic?

Does the oil rad mount on to it?

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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Lemme go and grab it...

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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Which way up does it go? biggrin

I've got the expansion tank and stuff from an Evo too. Is that the same as on a 3.0?





Output Flange

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16,824 posts

213 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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Back from holiday, and what better way to stave off the post-holiday blues than to arrive home to presents?

A nice box from BMW:



All sorts in there (mostly engine bits) but the "show piece" I guess is this:



It goes up to 8k, so it'll do.

More after the weekend...



Edited for photo rotationating.

Edited by Output Flange on Wednesday 14th August 08:22

Output Flange

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16,824 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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What was in the box? I hear you cry.

Well, this little lot:



4x drive shaft CV joint rebuild kits, 1x diff mount, 1x tacho, a selection of hoses, a Grp.N oil restrictor (£80! £80!), a set of cam cover gaskets, a set of exhaust gaskets, an oil cap, an oil filter and all the jubilee clips, shiny nuts, seals and various bits and bobs needed to redo the inlet manifold.

Talking of which, I've given the plenum a coat of paint using Halford's Wrinkle Finish paint. No likey. Far too shiny looking, so I think that can get done properly at the same time as the cam cover.

Other stuff arrived today too. Firstly, an ECU, VNC, EWS box and chip:



I only actually need the ECU and VNC, as the ECU will be posted off tomorrow to End Tuning to have a non-EWS chip fitted, along with raising the rev limit to 8k.

Next to unwrap was this:



"This" being a pair of M3 Evo exhaust manifolds with lambda sensors. The 3.2 had the sensors in the manifolds, the 3.0 in the downpipe. Given the only standard bit of exhaust will be the manifolds, it seemed easier to use Evo ones than have lambda holes added to the custom bits - more so as the 3.0 manifolds needed the flexi repaired, and these don't appear to.

A couple of things to order tomorrow:

- the correct instrument cluster coding plug for the 8k tacho
- some alternator mounting bolts
- an alternator
- a PAS pump
- a radiator
- an oil cooler rad
- an expansion tank
- a windscreen washer reservoir
- exhaust manifold heat shield
- any of the million bits of bodywork and trim I'll need
- cuddly toy

That's it for now. Tune in soon for another exciting installment...

Stinkfoot

2,243 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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What a great thread, I have really enjoying reading it. The car should be amazing when its completed so please keep the updates coming.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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These really are exciting updates, at least to us weirdos! Wonderful project, being nicely done, and this is just going to be so interesting to see completed. How will it compare to the M5 of the day?

Keep up the good work. It can't be easy to think to take pics through all of this but goddamit, they're like food to some of us.

Output Flange

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16,824 posts

213 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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The ECU went in the post to End Tuning yesterday. He's going to up the rev limit to 7,800rpm, remove the EWS and tweak the fuelling to get it to nearer 300bhp. Should be back with me early next week.

I spoke to the bodyshop today. My plan is to get it in for new front and rear panels, get the few bits of welding done, get the engine bay sprayed, and then on to getting the running gear in. At present they don't think they can take it in until some time in October - a bit later than I'd hoped. Not necessarily the end of the world, but I suspect my plan to get it all done by Xmas might not happen...

I've got some miles to do over the weekend to pick up more parts. Hopefully once that's done, and my rather pricey order from BMW comes in, it should all just be a game of "refitting is the opposite of removal".

More to follow over the weekend...

Output Flange

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16,824 posts

213 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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Oh, and because I'm a bit bored, I've just bought some speakers for it hehe

PureSilver

32 posts

135 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Sweet! Keep it coming.

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16,824 posts

213 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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More? You're insatiable.

Today involved buying an engine crane to get the lump out the back of the van - it's been in there for 3 weeks.



Handy.

The intake plenum came up a bit too glossy, so will need to be redone:



The throttle bodies are showing every bit of their 17 years of filth. They'll be coming off to be soda blasted:



The postman turned up with more presents today:



Rad, water pump, thermostat, drive belt, spark plugs.

I popped in to BJV Engineering this morning to collect the Style 5s. They've come up a treat:



You'd think choosing wheels would be easy. And to be fair, it was. But then the itchy trigger finger took over again, so in addition to the Style 5s, I've just got back from collecting these:



I suspect that I won't change my mind on 17s being too big for an E28, but these will at least get the car mobile until I get some tyres for the 16s.

Of course, Throwing Stars (and these are genuine ones, from an E31) are everywhere these days - particularly dodgy non-handed replicas. So, to avoid becoming one of the crowd, eGay saw me right to these:



Which are, as you can probably see, fked. And they're magnesium, and magnesium is a bh to refinish. However, they come up so rarely that it's worth a look. I'm assuming that E34 centres will swap onto E31 wheels - no idea if that's true or not, so I'll do a test-fit before committing too much time, money and effort to them.

And then probably just go with the 16s instead hehe

More tomorrow...

Stuart Thompson

581 posts

165 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Go with the style 5s, they are just pure sexy, and look absolutely gorgeous refurbed.
Unless you come up with a set of BBS RS splits this is the only choice.

Edited by Stuart Thompson on Saturday 17th August 21:00

Output Flange

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16,824 posts

213 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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I'm pretty sure I will, tbh. One of the goals is to have the lowest possible unsprung weight at the front, and the 16s feel pretty bloody light by comparison.

If anyone knows of lightweight E34 540i front discs, I'm all ears.