Fiesta ST MK7.5 Track car
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This will be for the last service when an ecu update was due but I asked for this not to be done .
The below was the information I read and then rang my ford dealer just to check no work needs doing with regards to the coolant recall
https://www.fiestastoc.com/forums/topic/311859-rec...
The below was the information I read and then rang my ford dealer just to check no work needs doing with regards to the coolant recall
https://www.fiestastoc.com/forums/topic/311859-rec...
windybob said:
Edited by kaveney on Saturday 18th May 18:53
17p06 is just a softwere update that I asked not to be done .
https://www.fiestastoc.com/forums/topic/292169-new...
https://www.fiestastoc.com/forums/topic/292169-new...
With all the breathing upgrades done on the engine i then looked to change the stock turbocharger to a X47 hybrid unit .
X47 hybrid turbo with larger Inlet Elbow and CP progressive Actuator .
spec of new hybrid turbo
New 45mm Large Bore Turbine shaft with Clipped back blades
•New 56.5mm Extended Tip 7 Blade Billet compressor wheel
•CNC re-profiled compressor cover to match new X-47 billet alloy wheel
•Motorsport Heavy Duty thrust bearing assembly
•Modified Seal Plate to match hi-flow compressor wheel
•Motorsport Specification Cut back turbine blades for high flow at high RPM
X47 hybrid turbo with larger Inlet Elbow and CP progressive Actuator .
spec of new hybrid turbo
New 45mm Large Bore Turbine shaft with Clipped back blades
•New 56.5mm Extended Tip 7 Blade Billet compressor wheel
•CNC re-profiled compressor cover to match new X-47 billet alloy wheel
•Motorsport Heavy Duty thrust bearing assembly
•Modified Seal Plate to match hi-flow compressor wheel
•Motorsport Specification Cut back turbine blades for high flow at high RPM
Edited by kaveney on Tuesday 24th September 16:32
All parts will be done before it goes on track do not worry about that and i have a big shopping list still to get
clarki said:
Nice project car. Great starting point.
But as mentioned, on a track car is it not best to start with reducing weight, adding grip, improving brakes, maybe some safety features.
If you cant get into/out of a corner quickly (so maybe a diff too) then adding power isn't really going to help.
Think R26R. Nothing like the pace of a focus RS in a drag race, but miles faster round a track.
Not being critical, think what your doing is great. Would love a fiesta st to turn into a track weapon.
Keep the updates coming.
But as mentioned, on a track car is it not best to start with reducing weight, adding grip, improving brakes, maybe some safety features.
If you cant get into/out of a corner quickly (so maybe a diff too) then adding power isn't really going to help.
Think R26R. Nothing like the pace of a focus RS in a drag race, but miles faster round a track.
Not being critical, think what your doing is great. Would love a fiesta st to turn into a track weapon.
Keep the updates coming.
With all of the engine / power bits done i have then looked in to getting the power to the road as the stock car is FWD with just an open diff .
First was to fit a Mountune lower engine torque mount to help with traction and wheel hop .
New vs old
Then i have installed a Quaife ATB LSD along with new bearings , gear oil etc.
Then i have changed the tyres for some more track suitable Yokohama ADO8R .
I have got wider Yokohama ADO8R tyres in 215/40/17 ( the stock size is 205/40/17 )
First was to fit a Mountune lower engine torque mount to help with traction and wheel hop .
New vs old
Then i have installed a Quaife ATB LSD along with new bearings , gear oil etc.
Then i have changed the tyres for some more track suitable Yokohama ADO8R .
I have got wider Yokohama ADO8R tyres in 215/40/17 ( the stock size is 205/40/17 )
305 BHP for this set up is good going as it is running the X47 turbo not the R or V330 .
Ps3 are good for the road but not great on track i have found on other cars and i still think the AD08R is one of the best tyres for track and road use .
Ps3 are good for the road but not great on track i have found on other cars and i still think the AD08R is one of the best tyres for track and road use .
WCZ said:
change the tyres to michelin ps3's, my 215 grips in the dry extremely well with them
Yes im on STOC as well mate so may have spoken all ready .
I still have a big parts list that will cover all parts and im looking at BC coilovers and the 330mm 4 pot AP racing front brake setup .
The large cross over and boost pipes are only good if you are running a hybrid / big turbo set up and on a stock turbo setup this will lose you power i have been told .
I was running the CP2 on my car as well and for road use this was a great set up but the difference from CP2 to a stage 3 is massive but for the road i would say the CP2 was better .
Regards
I still have a big parts list that will cover all parts and im looking at BC coilovers and the 330mm 4 pot AP racing front brake setup .
The large cross over and boost pipes are only good if you are running a hybrid / big turbo set up and on a stock turbo setup this will lose you power i have been told .
I was running the CP2 on my car as well and for road use this was a great set up but the difference from CP2 to a stage 3 is massive but for the road i would say the CP2 was better .
Regards
alex98uk said:
Good thread, I recognise your name from STOC.
I have a relatively similar set up to you, minus the upgraded turbo. I really enjoy it at the track and it's kind of in a place where I don't want to tinker further for fear of upsetting the balance it has. The only thing I would look to add is bigger brakes.
The biggest differences for me as both a road car and track car was the addition of adjustable coilover suspension and diff (I went Wavetrac). The coilovers have improved the car on streets by being soft when I want it and hard on track and the diff just absolutely pulls the car around bends, although it is not noticeable on street.
I also run AD08R tyres and have managed to convert some friends to them. They are nice and sticky when hot (only beaten by R888R/AR1's etc...), but suitable for the UK as they have some tread to deal with standing water. I'm a great fan of them.
Question for you, what made you go for the breather mods such as larger crossover pipes and upgraded hot/cold sides? I'm always slightly unsure if there is any tangible benefit, or it's more a high margins product that companies sell.
Have bookmarked the thread in any case!
This is what i'm running:
Mountune intake (Ramair induction pipe)
GFB Diverter Valve +
Collins Performance Stage 2
Mountune small Intercooler
Custom 2.75" catback
KW ST XTA adjustable coilovers
WaveTrac LSD
EBC discs + braided lines
Ferodo DS2500 pads
Team Dynamics Pro 1.2 16"
Summit rear beam brace
Custom brake ducting (instead of foglights)
I have a relatively similar set up to you, minus the upgraded turbo. I really enjoy it at the track and it's kind of in a place where I don't want to tinker further for fear of upsetting the balance it has. The only thing I would look to add is bigger brakes.
The biggest differences for me as both a road car and track car was the addition of adjustable coilover suspension and diff (I went Wavetrac). The coilovers have improved the car on streets by being soft when I want it and hard on track and the diff just absolutely pulls the car around bends, although it is not noticeable on street.
I also run AD08R tyres and have managed to convert some friends to them. They are nice and sticky when hot (only beaten by R888R/AR1's etc...), but suitable for the UK as they have some tread to deal with standing water. I'm a great fan of them.
Question for you, what made you go for the breather mods such as larger crossover pipes and upgraded hot/cold sides? I'm always slightly unsure if there is any tangible benefit, or it's more a high margins product that companies sell.
Have bookmarked the thread in any case!
This is what i'm running:
Mountune intake (Ramair induction pipe)
GFB Diverter Valve +
Collins Performance Stage 2
Mountune small Intercooler
Custom 2.75" catback
KW ST XTA adjustable coilovers
WaveTrac LSD
EBC discs + braided lines
Ferodo DS2500 pads
Team Dynamics Pro 1.2 16"
Summit rear beam brace
Custom brake ducting (instead of foglights)
I have also installed some suspension upgrades but will be looking to swap then out for some coilovers soon .
First was the install of the Whiteline rear anti roll bar
The rear spring isolators are made of foam and are very squishy and do brake down very quickly so i have installed some Power flex units .
I have then installed the Mountune clubsport suspension
New mountune springs
Rear Bilstein shocks
The rear installed
Front Mountune clubsport kit and old shock
And all installed
Then i have installed some Super pro front drop link
First was the install of the Whiteline rear anti roll bar
The rear spring isolators are made of foam and are very squishy and do brake down very quickly so i have installed some Power flex units .
I have then installed the Mountune clubsport suspension
New mountune springs
Rear Bilstein shocks
The rear installed
Front Mountune clubsport kit and old shock
And all installed
Then i have installed some Super pro front drop link
Last bit for the day was to install rear Mountune braided brake lines .
I do have the fronts but will be installing an AP racing BBK soon so have just installed the rear ones .
WP_20170708_12_52_14_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_12_52_20_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_14_35_39_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_14_35_43_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
I do have the fronts but will be installing an AP racing BBK soon so have just installed the rear ones .
WP_20170708_12_52_14_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_12_52_20_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_14_35_39_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_14_35_43_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
Not that I have read and when I serviuce the car I will check the dv just in case .
If you could see all the muck that is on the back of the valves and intake like I have you would be amazed .
I could not recomend them enough esp on direct injection cars .
Regards
If you could see all the muck that is on the back of the valves and intake like I have you would be amazed .
I could not recomend them enough esp on direct injection cars .
Regards
alex98uk said:
I don't know much about catch cans, but is there any risk that it affects lubrication of the diverter valve? My understanding is that it self lubricates from oil vapour?
The Mountune set up is good but i will need some adjustment and a bit more track focused so have got some BC racing coilovers .
Iv got all the bits i need now so its just a matter of getting them all on and then getting this on its first track day .
Funny as its been with me as a back up car to all of our track days but never been on track its self .
Nurburgring
Nurburgring again
WP_20170807_15_51_00_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
Nurburgring three times a lady
Bedford GT
Castle combe
Brands Hatch
Brands Hatch again
On to the I30N i have only done 250 miles in the I30N but do love the thing and you are correct in that it does feel like a more focused fiesta but still has that ( it just feels right ) thing as soon as you start to drive it .
Regards
Iv got all the bits i need now so its just a matter of getting them all on and then getting this on its first track day .
Funny as its been with me as a back up car to all of our track days but never been on track its self .
Nurburgring
Nurburgring again
WP_20170807_15_51_00_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
Nurburgring three times a lady
Bedford GT
Castle combe
Brands Hatch
Brands Hatch again
On to the I30N i have only done 250 miles in the I30N but do love the thing and you are correct in that it does feel like a more focused fiesta but still has that ( it just feels right ) thing as soon as you start to drive it .
Regards
J4CKO said:
Enjoying this, fitted some Mountune springs on my sons ST last weekend, as well as a Mountune exhaust, not driven it yet myself but he says the ehxaust is ok, but the springs make a huge difference, better ride and feels more planted.
Like the I30N, I drove one and thought it felt like a bigger, faster Fiesta ST.
My dad is looking to change his car which is something that doesnt happen often, I think four times in my 48 years I can remember him changing, so he is looking at the I30N as well, wonder how it compares tot he Focus ST ?
Like the I30N, I drove one and thought it felt like a bigger, faster Fiesta ST.
My dad is looking to change his car which is something that doesnt happen often, I think four times in my 48 years I can remember him changing, so he is looking at the I30N as well, wonder how it compares tot he Focus ST ?
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