Porsche Boxster 986 2.5 - Is it just me???
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egor110 said:
mrpenks said:
Tickle said:
Looks great OP. I like the early boxters, they are more compact and more suited to threading down a nice B-road.
Looks like a minter too, good buy.
Thanks, it's a good point that the B road brings out the best in it to be honest. I'm tempted to head out for a blat to Llandovery again this afternoon now...!Looks like a minter too, good buy.
mrpenks said:
I've never been - where is it held?
Its time that we all got together to blow the cobwebs off the Cars.So if your interested lets all meet at Junction 30 services off the M4 at 9:30am, Leaving at 10am heading to the second meeting point at the horseshoe Bend towards Brecon on the A470 Sunday 17th April.
So normal rules apply!! This is not a Race its a gathering of like minded Folk that would like to enjoy the roads,the view and the cars. Any Bad behaviour will not be tolerated and you will be asked to leave the drive, we need to respect other road users, each other and others pride and joy.
Route handed out on the day.
Once we are at the Elan Valley we will find a spot to stop, have a chat take some good photos from the Ground and the Air, using a Drone and professional photographer.
Please Note this will be Weather Permitting, so fingers crossed this a nice sunny day. The drone does not like the rain.
Go to regions/wales for the welsh area forum and add your name to the list, looks like it's going to be quite a big meet.
egor110 said:
mrpenks said:
I've never been - where is it held?
Its time that we all got together to blow the cobwebs off the Cars.So if your interested lets all meet at Junction 30 services off the M4 at 9:30am, Leaving at 10am heading to the second meeting point at the horseshoe Bend towards Brecon on the A470 Sunday 17th April.
So normal rules apply!! This is not a Race its a gathering of like minded Folk that would like to enjoy the roads,the view and the cars. Any Bad behaviour will not be tolerated and you will be asked to leave the drive, we need to respect other road users, each other and others pride and joy.
Route handed out on the day.
Once we are at the Elan Valley we will find a spot to stop, have a chat take some good photos from the Ground and the Air, using a Drone and professional photographer.
Please Note this will be Weather Permitting, so fingers crossed this a nice sunny day. The drone does not like the rain.
Go to regions/wales for the welsh area forum and add your name to the list, looks like it's going to be quite a big meet.
I've recently 'fallen' for the Boxster and find myself constantly looking at them online.
I had a 2.0 Clio 182 which was great fun in the twisties, then got a 4.2 V8 supercharged Jag which i love, but it's missing that fun factor the 182 had.
Didn't want another 182 so testdrove a VX220 and an Elise, both great fun to drive, but then i realised i also want to be able to go for long journey's back home to the continent in them, and i do like a bit of comfort (and electric roof etc) so the boxster S seems ideal.
Just need to decide if i'm going to buy a 986 now or save up a bit more and go for the 987.
Medic-one said:
I've recently 'fallen' for the Boxster and find myself constantly looking at them online.
I had a 2.0 Clio 182 which was great fun in the twisties, then got a 4.2 V8 supercharged Jag which i love, but it's missing that fun factor the 182 had.
Didn't want another 182 so testdrove a VX220 and an Elise, both great fun to drive, but then i realised i also want to be able to go for long journey's back home to the continent in them, and i do like a bit of comfort (and electric roof etc) so the boxster S seems ideal.
Just need to decide if i'm going to buy a 986 now or save up a bit more and go for the 987.
Drive an s2000 before you make any purchase, gear change is perfection, engine is simply awesome and a huge amount of fun, they handle brilliantly and ignore anyone who says they want to kill you at a moments notice. They really don't, they just grip and grip. That said, you can make wet roundabouts a lot more fun if it's quiet.I had a 2.0 Clio 182 which was great fun in the twisties, then got a 4.2 V8 supercharged Jag which i love, but it's missing that fun factor the 182 had.
Didn't want another 182 so testdrove a VX220 and an Elise, both great fun to drive, but then i realised i also want to be able to go for long journey's back home to the continent in them, and i do like a bit of comfort (and electric roof etc) so the boxster S seems ideal.
Just need to decide if i'm going to buy a 986 now or save up a bit more and go for the 987.
DanielSan said:
Drive an s2000 before you make any purchase, gear change is perfection, engine is simply awesome and a huge amount of fun, they handle brilliantly and ignore anyone who says they want to kill you at a moments notice. They really don't, they just grip and grip. That said, you can make wet roundabouts a lot more fun if it's quiet.
I've had a passenger ride in one but the S2000 has never really done it for me, the looks, the interior, i don't know what it is, but i just don't like it.Brain says 'fun car, probably what you're lookin for', but heart just says 'meh', and i think every car needs to have a bit of brain + heart to truely love it.
Medic-one said:
I've recently 'fallen' for the Boxster and find myself constantly looking at them online.
I had a 2.0 Clio 182 which was great fun in the twisties, then got a 4.2 V8 supercharged Jag which i love, but it's missing that fun factor the 182 had.
Didn't want another 182 so testdrove a VX220 and an Elise, both great fun to drive, but then i realised i also want to be able to go for long journey's back home to the continent in them, and i do like a bit of comfort (and electric roof etc) so the boxster S seems ideal.
Just need to decide if i'm going to buy a 986 now or save up a bit more and go for the 987.
987 has a much nicer interior than my 986 but my 986 is surprisingly comfortable on a journey if it helps...I had a 2.0 Clio 182 which was great fun in the twisties, then got a 4.2 V8 supercharged Jag which i love, but it's missing that fun factor the 182 had.
Didn't want another 182 so testdrove a VX220 and an Elise, both great fun to drive, but then i realised i also want to be able to go for long journey's back home to the continent in them, and i do like a bit of comfort (and electric roof etc) so the boxster S seems ideal.
Just need to decide if i'm going to buy a 986 now or save up a bit more and go for the 987.
They are great cars. We sold an early 2.5 a few weeks back and I had spent a bit of time out in it. Certainly wouldn't call it fast, more like luke warm. But as an all around "drivers" package, they are bargains. Fantastic fun to chuck around and even pretty good as a cruiser. Buy smart and keep up to the routine maintenance and it'll plod on forever.
mrpenks said:
Am I mad, sad or blinkered in my view that my weekend motor is a great car
A friend recently bought a 2.5 almost identical to yours, beautiful clean example with only 70k on the clock.It shat itself with no warning after two months. Cost him about £3k to fix.
Another guy I know had a 2.7, which also spread it's motor all over the road during a run out.
Look on eBay at the huge number of exploded 2.5 and 2.7 engines for sale... And the number for sale that have been rebuilt.
I personally think you are mental!
Having said that, my mum had a 2007 987 3.2 with a full Remus exhaust system and it sounded epic and went very well indeed. Cannot fault the drive. Incredibly well balanced and an excellent sports car.
Shame they suffer so many problems.
NinjaPower said:
mrpenks said:
Am I mad, sad or blinkered in my view that my weekend motor is a great car
A friend recently bought a 2.5 almost identical to yours, beautiful clean example with only 70k on the clock.It shat itself with no warning after two months. Cost him about £3k to fix.
Another guy I know had a 2.7, which also spread it's motor all over the road during a run out.
Look on eBay at the huge number of exploded 2.5 and 2.7 engines for sale... And the number for sale that have been rebuilt.
I personally think you are mental!
Having said that, my mum had a 2007 987 3.2 with a full Remus exhaust system and it sounded epic and went very well indeed. Cannot fault the drive. Incredibly well balanced and an excellent sports car.
Shame they suffer so many problems.
Also, has anyone else lost a 2.5 Boxster engine during ownership?
mrpenks said:
Hmm sounds concerning - what caused the motor in the 2.5 to let go?
Also, has anyone else lost a 2.5 Boxster engine during ownership?
It was IMS failure that caused the 2.5 to pop.Also, has anyone else lost a 2.5 Boxster engine during ownership?
Google Boxster/996 engine failure and problems.
There are probabably hundreds/thousands of pages about it on the Internet.
Intermediate shaft bearing failure
Cracked cylinder heads
Cracked cylinder liners
Engine block becomes porous
Chain tensioner failures
Connecting rod bolt failures
Inadequate oil system problems
Oil-air seperator failures
People will say "oh don't believe everything you hear on the Internet" and just tell you to make sure it's well looked after, but I personally know 2 people who have had early Boxsters explode and a mate whose 996 C4 put a rod through the block.
It doesn't matter if they've been driven carefully and serviced every 10k, these are inherent engine faults that WILL make themselves known at some point.
Hence why you can buy a 996 for £8k.
Edited by NinjaPower on Saturday 16th April 22:15
NinjaPower said:
mrpenks said:
Hmm sounds concerning - what caused the motor in the 2.5 to let go?
Also, has anyone else lost a 2.5 Boxster engine during ownership?
Google Boxster/996 engine failure and problems.Also, has anyone else lost a 2.5 Boxster engine during ownership?
There are probabably hundreds of pages about it.
Intermediate shaft beating failure
Cracked cylinder heads
Cracked cylinder liners
Engine block becomes porous
Chain tensioner failures
Connecting rod bolt failures
Inadequate oil system problems
Oil-air seperator failures
Pre 2000 ims was single scroll and don't tend to fail
Cracked cylinder heads very uncommon on smaller 'M96 engines
Cracked cylinder liners tended to be on earliest cars and was resolved promptly so rare (and most will have already failed and been repaired at this age)
Con rod, chain and block issues seem to hit the 3.4 911s, not the smaller M96 engines in boxsters
Never heard of oil system problems
Point in making here is whilst there's lots of smoke, I've never heard of many fires....
On my second 986 Boxster now. Great cars and great value. Very much underrated and derided by people who don't drive them. Keeps the values well under where they might otherwise be. For me I don't see the need to go for the later cars where the shift is more to comfort, daily use ability.
NinjaPower said:
It was IMS failure that caused the 2.5 to pop.
Google Boxster/996 engine failure and problems.
There are probabably hundreds/thousands of pages about it on the Internet.
Intermediate shaft bearing failure
Cracked cylinder heads
Cracked cylinder liners
Engine block becomes porous
Chain tensioner failures
Connecting rod bolt failures
Inadequate oil system problems
Oil-air seperator failures
People will say "oh don't believe everything you hear on the Internet" and just tell you to make sure it's well looked after, but I personally know 2 people who have had early Boxsters explode and a mate whose 996 C4 put a rod through the block.
It doesn't matter if they've been driven carefully and serviced every 10k, these are inherent engine faults that WILL make themselves known at some point.
Hence why you can buy a 996 for £8k.
Even if the worst happens, so what? You've enjoyed a great sports car for next to nothing. If you factor in the cost of repair it's still not expensive motoring for what you get.Google Boxster/996 engine failure and problems.
There are probabably hundreds/thousands of pages about it on the Internet.
Intermediate shaft bearing failure
Cracked cylinder heads
Cracked cylinder liners
Engine block becomes porous
Chain tensioner failures
Connecting rod bolt failures
Inadequate oil system problems
Oil-air seperator failures
People will say "oh don't believe everything you hear on the Internet" and just tell you to make sure it's well looked after, but I personally know 2 people who have had early Boxsters explode and a mate whose 996 C4 put a rod through the block.
It doesn't matter if they've been driven carefully and serviced every 10k, these are inherent engine faults that WILL make themselves known at some point.
Hence why you can buy a 996 for £8k.
Edited by NinjaPower on Saturday 16th April 22:15
The IMS bearing on the 2.5 is far less prone to failure than Boxsters from 2000-2005.
There are various differences between similar engines and people just tend to group the lot together and link the likelihood of issues being the same.
The 3.4 in the 996 is known to be far less problematic than the 3.6 for example.
Anyway, red leather with silver is probably my favourite combination on these, looks the part.
There are various differences between similar engines and people just tend to group the lot together and link the likelihood of issues being the same.
The 3.4 in the 996 is known to be far less problematic than the 3.6 for example.
Anyway, red leather with silver is probably my favourite combination on these, looks the part.
I have had my 2.5 for coming up to 10 years in August. I planned on keeping it for 12 months then selling it but it is still here. It is not an every day car for me, but has been solid and reliable.
I spend a bit on it this year, but generally it is not too bad costs wise. It has had main dealer, specialist and now an Indy garage servicing and still runs well if you keep on top of the jobs.
There is a risk of big failures but the same can be said for many cars. It is not the fastest thing in the world but a nice run out on a Sunday with the roof down I can't think of anything better for the money.
Mine is quite basic, guards red, grey half leather and no aircon, now I am glad it is low spec as there is less to go wrong!
I spend a bit on it this year, but generally it is not too bad costs wise. It has had main dealer, specialist and now an Indy garage servicing and still runs well if you keep on top of the jobs.
There is a risk of big failures but the same can be said for many cars. It is not the fastest thing in the world but a nice run out on a Sunday with the roof down I can't think of anything better for the money.
Mine is quite basic, guards red, grey half leather and no aircon, now I am glad it is low spec as there is less to go wrong!
anomaly said:
NinjaPower said:
It was IMS failure that caused the 2.5 to pop.
Google Boxster/996 engine failure and problems.
There are probabably hundreds/thousands of pages about it on the Internet.
Intermediate shaft bearing failure
Cracked cylinder heads
Cracked cylinder liners
Engine block becomes porous
Chain tensioner failures
Connecting rod bolt failures
Inadequate oil system problems
Oil-air seperator failures
People will say "oh don't believe everything you hear on the Internet" and just tell you to make sure it's well looked after, but I personally know 2 people who have had early Boxsters explode and a mate whose 996 C4 put a rod through the block.
It doesn't matter if they've been driven carefully and serviced every 10k, these are inherent engine faults that WILL make themselves known at some point.
Hence why you can buy a 996 for £8k.
Even if the worst happens, so what? You've enjoyed a great sports car for next to nothing. If you factor in the cost of repair it's still not expensive motoring for what you get.Google Boxster/996 engine failure and problems.
There are probabably hundreds/thousands of pages about it on the Internet.
Intermediate shaft bearing failure
Cracked cylinder heads
Cracked cylinder liners
Engine block becomes porous
Chain tensioner failures
Connecting rod bolt failures
Inadequate oil system problems
Oil-air seperator failures
People will say "oh don't believe everything you hear on the Internet" and just tell you to make sure it's well looked after, but I personally know 2 people who have had early Boxsters explode and a mate whose 996 C4 put a rod through the block.
It doesn't matter if they've been driven carefully and serviced every 10k, these are inherent engine faults that WILL make themselves known at some point.
Hence why you can buy a 996 for £8k.
Edited by NinjaPower on Saturday 16th April 22:15
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