RS6 C6 V10 - Standard... for now!

[C7 JFW]

Engine out to do the bits in question on not.

My word I'd like one of these.

[philmots]

Respect these, took one for a test drive, very capable but ultimately not for me, it felt a bit too safe.

[adamfraser]

I can totally relate to the 'safe' feeling of it. Being so heavy it's a very smooth power delivery, compared to the ferociousness of my old classic Subarus. It's not until you look down at the speedo and you are a bit haha!!

Still no V5 through yet, typical DVLA...

Gave it a quick clean today inside and out, few light scratches on the bodywork but i'll deal with it after winter, not much point with the amount of crap on the roads!

Car is booked in for Monday to get some surgery, lets hope the bits are easy enough to get and it's not stuck on a ramp for 2 weeks.

Could be doing with some tyres soon, i just don't rate the Contis that are on it, and they are getting on a bit. Had SP SportMaxx on my last 3.0 A6, and they were fantastic. Would be good to hear what everyone else has fitted and how they rate them.

Welcome to RS6 ownership, my old Saab cost less than this upcoming repair bill i fear.

[HybridAero]

adamfraser said:

I can totally relate to the 'safe' feeling of it. Being so heavy it's a very smooth power delivery, compared to the ferociousness of my old classic Subarus. It's not until you look down at the speedo and you are a bit haha!!

Still no V5 through yet, typical DVLA...

Gave it a quick clean today inside and out, few light scratches on the bodywork but i'll deal with it after winter, not much point with the amount of crap on the roads!

Car is booked in for Monday to get some surgery, lets hope the bits are easy enough to get and it's not stuck on a ramp for 2 weeks.

Could be doing with some tyres soon, i just don't rate the Contis that are on it, and they are getting on a bit. Had SP SportMaxx on my last 3.0 A6, and they were fantastic. Would be good to hear what everyone else has fitted and how they rate them.

Welcome to RS6 ownership, my old Saab cost less than this upcoming repair bill i fear.

Awesome car, congrats. I remember reading somewhere that a remap transforms the power delivery and it no longer feels safe and smooth, but in a good way. What kind of mpg are you getting, would you ever consider LPGing it?

[adamfraser]

HybridAero said:

Awesome car, congrats. I remember reading somewhere that a remap transforms the power delivery and it no longer feels safe and smooth, but in a good way. What kind of mpg are you getting, would you ever consider LPGing it?

Cheers.

MRC Stage2 map will take it from 570 - 720ish. Definitely planning it for next year, just the small issue of the upcoming work, and would like to put new tyres and brakes all round before the proper work starts.

MPG, had it down the M6 last weekend and returned 25mpg. Was following the boys with the rally car on the trailer at 60mph so it's not really a comparison. Around the town, i'm getting 13mpg. Run up the back roads, 7/8mpg. Currently running on Momentum99. I know it says you can use 95, i'm just so used to putting 99 in the Subarus, so to have something with twice the power, putting inferior fuel in is a mental mind block! My only experience with LPG was fixing them as part of my old job, to be honest it won't be doing a huge mileage so not too fussed on it. On the other hand, if it was a daily, it would be a different story!

Would anyone be interested in an actual diary of true running costs on these? I'm not shy in showing the numbers, if it helps anyone in deciding if an RS is for them or not, i'm more than happy to do it.

[Uggers]

Go for it, I've done it for my RS6. I just update the blog on here with the incurred costs.

Beware you'll either be pleasantly surprised at the total, or horrified. Never really much of an inbetween.

I ended up getting a 2 poster ready for the inevitable (at some point) engine out job!

[adamfraser]

So, here's a rundown of the last 3 weeks of ownership. I'll update this post every month with figures.

November 2016 - Mileage 80,535

Number Plates - £31.79
AMI Cable, 20x Wheel Nut Covers - £53
CableJive Dock Extender for AMI - £26.96
Audi - Intermediate Service - £354.98
TPS - RS6 Badges - £47.42
DVLA - Tax - £45.09
Fuel - £306.20

Total for November -
Parts & Service - £514.15
Tax - £45.09
Fuel - £306.20
Total - £865.44

[adamfraser]

Well that's it away to the garage to get the work done, hopefully we won't have issues with parts supplies. The lads are going to get some pictures so will stick them up once I get them. Driveway looking rather empty!

[adamfraser]

Well, it's all good fun. Popped up after work to see how the boys were getting on, and end up having a look for myself...



So, on further inspection, the list grows.

Coolant pipes in Arch are absolutely rotten. Frightening actually. Can't wait to see them out and see just how close they were to splitting.
Thankfully it's only the o-ring that is away, and not the oil pump (2.5k!)

On further inspection..

Slight leak on braided hose from dry sump reservoir to Thermostat. Not worth the risk in my books, so it's getting changed.
2x Water pipes that run under the block to the Gearbox cooler - one corroded on the edge where it meets the rubber hose. Again, not worth the risk so time to change it.
Air fiters are absolutely filthy. So much for a 'Full Audi history'!!
Going to replace all 10x spark plugs.

Can't see anything else so far, but definitely going to have another look when it's all out on the deck. O-Ring must be well and truly gone, was a fair amount of oil underneath and it was only cleaned 2 weeks ago.

IanH or anyone else, has anyone been changing any of these pipes or am I the unlucky first one to discover it?? I didnt get pictures of them on the car.



Hose 7 from Reservoir to Thermostat, leaking at the join on the hose at the thermostat side



Hose 11. Corroded at the edge of the RHS pipe to the rubber hose at front.

The joys of RS6 ownership, 3 weeks in.. Just want it back to enjoy it now.

Edited by adamfraser on Thursday 8th December 16:48

[ChrisRS6]

Miss my V10 RS6

Have. A look at some of my posts on here and also RS246

I was one of the first to suffer the old 70p oil seal....seems a distant memory now....I spent thousands on my car and never regretted any of it.

Once mapped these things are mental....

I'm in C7 RS6 now feels quicker but miss the mid range and top end thump and never ending pull of the V10.

[ChrisRS6]

It will look like this!!

[IanH755]

Hi Adam,

Tyres - My personal preference for tyres is the Michelin Pilot Super Sport which, as they're a BMW OEM size, will still be made for th next 10+ years.

Pipes - Both of those aren't "common" but these cars are now getting 7-8 years old so I'd expect to find a few minor leaks when the engine bay has been stripped as much as yours (it's even worst if you take the engine/GB out and you get to see the rear of the engine/firewall area!)

[adamfraser]

ChrisRS6 said:

Miss my V10 RS6

Have. A look at some of my posts on here and also RS246

I was one of the first to suffer the old 70p oil seal....seems a distant memory now....I spent thousands on my car and never regretted any of it.

Once mapped these things are mental....

I'm in C7 RS6 now feels quicker but miss the mid range and top end thump and never ending pull of the V10.

Had a look through RS246 the other night, need to stick a post up. Seems like it is starting to get a bit more common.. but i'm glad I caught it now, would have been catastrophic if it had went.

Glad to hear it's mental once mapped!!

IanH755 said:

Hi Adam,

Tyres - My personal preference for tyres is the Michelin Pilot Super Sport which, as they're a BMW OEM size, will still be made for th next 10+ years.

Pipes - Both of those aren't "common" but these cars are now getting 7-8 years old so I'd expect to find a few minor leaks when the engine bay has been stripped as much as yours (it's even worst if you take the engine/GB out and you get to see the rear of the engine/firewall area!)

Cheers Ian, will have a look and try get some. Had Dunlop SP SportMaxx on my last A6 but it's a different car altogether.

Roll on getting it back, it's going to be a long weekend without it..

[adamfraser]

Well, the engine is out!





Coolant pipes in the arch, the initial cause. Absolutely shocking how much these have degraded in the 8 years since it was built, i'm actually astounded.



On a closer inspection, as soon as the bolts were undone on the clamp, they just snapped clean off. Look how thin the metal is, i am amazed they held on as long as they did!




Unfortunately not is all as seems. It needs a fair amount, rocker cover gaskets for one..



Infact, between the various pipes, gaskets, filters etc, we are into 4 figures of parts alone.

So, new oil, air, pollen filters, 10x plugs, 2x rocker cover gaskets, 2x timing cover gaskets, 2x exhaust clamps, 2x coolant pipes, 1x braided hose, 2x more coolant pipes, oil seals, seals for the braided hose, and a few other bits and bobs... everyone, welcome to RS6 ownership.



At least i'll have it back for christmas.

[philmots]

Interesting stuff, I'm sure you'll get the money back (or won't have to sell it on cheap) when you come to sell.

This work is what people will look for.

Are the new coolant pipes actually any different, or is the same thing going to happen in another 7 years.

[Oi_Oi_Savaloy]

Is there something you spray on the new pipes to protect them or can you properly seal the inside of the arch liner at all? Those pipes must see alot of weather (at high velocity perhaps - the old ones are in a shocking state agreed!) Just a thought.

[jke11y]

Has it been in Scotland all its life? I notice cars up here weather much harder than cars Ive bought and owned down south. Pretty scary on a car that young, and once internet word gets out it'll be the first thing people say about them (like the gearboxes on range rovers or the suspension on other RS audis).

[GrantB5]

Wow those coolant pipes are bad.

Nothing like peace of mind knowing they have been replaced though!

[Dave Hedgehog]

that's appalling for an 8yo car, i would be half tempted to speak to audi about that

what are they made from? corrodium?

[Terminator X]

Total disgrace that Audi use so many parts able to rust so quickly esp in such an expensive car to buy new. I'm on with these cars though as it looks so standard yet packs such a large punch!

TX.