480 bhp and 1360 kg Saab 9000 Aero

480 bhp and 1360 kg Saab 9000 Aero

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Penguinracer

1,593 posts

207 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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The Garret GTX 3071R has been updated - there's a Generation II GTX3071R.

HybridAero

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1,368 posts

101 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Penguinracer said:
The Garret GTX 3071R has been updated - there's a Generation II GTX3071R.
Yes I heard that the Gen 2 have better flow than before. The lag on this leaves a lot to be desired! Nothing, nothing, nothing, bang!!

madwrx

91 posts

207 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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hmm you definately need something with some modern billet internals-even my sc54 which is a 570 brake turbo has some positive boost at 2000 rpm on my 2.1 litre ej20.
although during my engine rebuild i had approx 9-1 compression which is night and day difference with the off/low boost torque- the cams and general build will massively dictate how the car drives on and off boost .
certainly remember my own 3071 being quite laggy on my last 2.0 forged classic impreza, 4000rpm then bang 250 bhp added in a few hundred rpm lol.
i,m quite surprised a 2.4 does,nt spool a 3071 for fun. A 2.5 litre impreza with standard cams would come on boost at 3000 easily with full boost before 3500 imo ....dont forget thats with 10 feet of exhaust piping before it reaches the turbine lol

Steve93

1,104 posts

191 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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HybridAero said:
Steve93 said:
Is this Faeros old car from UKS?

I'm sure I saw the for sale ad
That's correct, bought it off the guy who bought off him. Had a look at the build thread but all the old photos are gone thanks to Photobucket.
I thought it looked familiar, awesome car with a lot of work gone into it.


HybridAero

Original Poster:

1,368 posts

101 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Acceleration is sprightly shall we say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc_CvBCLCfc

100-200 km/h was approx 8.5 seconds although would need a Vbox to confirm that.

griffin dai

3,205 posts

150 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Good buy smile (a LOT of blood, sweat & tears gone into that one!!!) loads of history on the car/tuning side in the UKS projects forum when Faero had it.

How are you finding the gt30 vs the old 19t? When I upgraded from the gt28rs to gt30 it was fun for a bit but the extra lag got on my nerves after a while, but that was a larger gt3076r and a fair bit more laggy than yours. Didn't really get going until 70 ish....things went bat st crazy above here though, like a jet taking off!


HybridAero

Original Poster:

1,368 posts

101 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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griffin dai said:
Good buy smile (a LOT of blood, sweat & tears gone into that one!!!) loads of history on the car/tuning side in the UKS projects forum when Faero had it.

How are you finding the gt30 vs the old 19t? When I upgraded from the gt28rs to gt30 it was fun for a bit but the extra lag got on my nerves after a while, but that was a larger gt3076r and a fair bit more laggy than yours. Didn't really get going until 70 ish....things went bat st crazy above here though, like a jet taking off!
Been reading the thread, yeh an insane amount of work, not much else out there like it!

I now understand what you mean about these bigger turbos (having never experienced one before).

For example, if I'm in a 60 wanting to overtake a tractor doing 20, 2nd is basically useless so I need 3rd, and there's no boost until 60!

So in a scenario like the above, the 19t is a much quicker car.

The 76 must be outrageous, I guess the 268 cams on this must help at the top end as well as the 0.86 exhaust housing.

griffin dai

3,205 posts

150 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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Yep did try telling you wink

Watch your licence!! All the fun will be at higher speeds if it's anything like mine. Yeah the 3076 was too laggy for me but had to give it a try, great for bypasses & motorways but a pain 90% of the time, 2nd was crazy quick & 3rd only good above 70 but went mental here, something like 2.7s 70-100 and just kept going smile Used to get caught off boost loads of times though. I did buy a 0.64 3071r originally but sold it for the 0.64 28rs then sold that for the 0.86 3076. That's meant to be a nice turbo.

The gen 2 gtx3076r would be nice though jester


HybridAero

Original Poster:

1,368 posts

101 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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PixelpeepS3

8,600 posts

143 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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bookmarked. Quite like retro sarbs.. smile

RC1807

12,593 posts

169 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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HybridAero said:
hehe


HybridAero

Original Poster:

1,368 posts

101 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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madwrx said:
hmm you definately need something with some modern billet internals-even my sc54 which is a 570 brake turbo has some positive boost at 2000 rpm on my 2.1 litre ej20.
although during my engine rebuild i had approx 9-1 compression which is night and day difference with the off/low boost torque- the cams and general build will massively dictate how the car drives on and off boost .
certainly remember my own 3071 being quite laggy on my last 2.0 forged classic impreza, 4000rpm then bang 250 bhp added in a few hundred rpm lol.
i,m quite surprised a 2.4 does,nt spool a 3071 for fun. A 2.5 litre impreza with standard cams would come on boost at 3000 easily with full boost before 3500 imo ....dont forget thats with 10 feet of exhaust piping before it reaches the turbine lol
Hmm maybe the more aggressive cams as a trade off affect low end driveability?

HybridAero

Original Poster:

1,368 posts

101 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Scobblelotcher said:
Awesome build! I followed the previous thread as well.

If you ever record it I’d love to hear how it sounds! ??
Thanks!

Sound as requestedsmile

https://youtu.be/Lc_CvBCLCfc

Scobblelotcher

1,724 posts

113 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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HybridAero said:
Scobblelotcher said:
Awesome build! I followed the previous thread as well.

If you ever record it I’d love to hear how it sounds! ??
Thanks!

Sound as requestedsmile

https://youtu.be/Lc_CvBCLCfc
Yikes that’s quick! Is it as quiet as it sounds in the video?

Thanks 😎

HybridAero

Original Poster:

1,368 posts

101 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Scobblelotcher said:
Yikes that’s quick! Is it as quiet as it sounds in the video?
It's quieter than it could be due to the exhaust system which apparently has a slight muffler effect (will get pics when it's next off the ground).

But get the revs past 5k and singing towards 7k in 3rd and 4th and it feels like this lol



Friend of mine has some proper camera equipment so should be able to capture the sound better later this week.

strummerville

1,016 posts

128 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Do you have any 9-5 Aero manual gearboxes left over from the previous build? I’m looking for one for my Dame Edna. I tried a PM but think the email is a bit old.

Cheers

HybridAero

Original Poster:

1,368 posts

101 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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strummerville said:
Do you have any 9-5 Aero manual gearboxes left over from the previous build? I’m looking for one for my Dame Edna. I tried a PM but think the email is a bit old.

Cheers
Hi m8 i emailed back unfortunately I don't have any as they went to the new owner. If you search for James Vey on the Saab Nuts Facebook group he's always breaking Saabs and is only in Hinckley.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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strummerville said:
Do you have any 9-5 Aero manual gearboxes left over from the previous build? I’m looking for one for my Dame Edna. I tried a PM but think the email is a bit old.

Cheers
Try calling Mick/Akos at 2 Stroke to Turbo.

strummerville

1,016 posts

128 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Cheers both.

HybridAero

Original Poster:

1,368 posts

101 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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wormus said:
Interesting choice & not many nice ones about anymore. Watching with interest!
Thanks! Yes only around 170 left registered according to How Many Left:



I'd like to give it a full respray in dark green at some point.