Renaultsport Megane 230 F1 Team R26
Discussion
Smitters said:
I need to get it on track and see where the weak spots are, but suspension and steering will be a target. There are some funny noises coming from the front end. Nothing horrific, but the odd clicking on lock. That'll need resolving before it sees any fast cornering.
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If the steering doesn't self centre or theres any strange noises lock to lock its probably the swivel bearings...
swampy442 said:
Smitters said:
I need to get it on track and see where the weak spots are, but suspension and steering will be a target. There are some funny noises coming from the front end. Nothing horrific, but the odd clicking on lock. That'll need resolving before it sees any fast cornering.
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If the steering doesn't self centre or theres any strange noises lock to lock its probably the swivel bearings...
But, onwards with the essentials. More cosmetics, aesthetics. More advanced and complex shapes made with my new carbon fibre skills.
First up, the car had a damaged, shonky Android HU with no radio/DBS and a not very reliable Bluetooth. I snagged a new (to me) double din job from one of the Facebook groups which is marginally better but most significantly, has a rotary volume control. We've got a touchscreen in our van and frankly, it's s
te. This one is ste too, but at least I can easily control the volume.
Plus, I took the opportunity to open up the top of the gear lever mechanism and re-greased anything I could reach in the vague hope it would improve the shift. Spoiler alert. It didn't.
As I needed to detach the gaiter from the mount anyway to *ahem* remake it from carbon fibre I figured I'd mount it with some velcro instead of the staples that were installed so carefully in Dieppe. Out came the glue and clothes pegs and a good old crafting session commenced.
In addition I wasn't in love with the silver stitching, which only matched the seatbelts (except the driver's side, which is more a grubby grey colour). I took a tip from MWStewart on stitching and had a aging Italian man whose life has been dedicated to the love of automotive interiors rework the gaiter.
Ignore the yellow pen. That's coincidental.
Then it was onwards with the carbon fibre manufacture.
Judicious use of the OHs hairdryer and I think I managed a passable job. It was about raising the interior a bit, not plastering vinyl wrap over every available surface. They're not perfect, but they're more than good enough and a damn sight better than trying to paint parts.
There is one surface that the best of eBay's vinyl wrap wasn't going to tackle, and that was the instrument binnacle. It's a sea of soft grey dreariness, but thankfully, you don't need to remove 90% of the interior just to pop the binnacle off.
Tadaaaa! Now, if only someone out there made good quality leather covers to pattern in the colour and leather texture I want.
Wait.... wait.... WIN!
I do not have a record of me fitting this, but let your imagination picture a kitchen covered with glue, my child's craft table with newspaper firmly affixed to it's surface and my hands and gloves repeatedly stuck to every surface in sight.
But thankfully, it came right in the end.
So, the interior is a bit more of a place to sit now. The last three spots I want to address are the steering wheel, which is ugly, tired, and has peeling stitching, the central air vents, which do require some dismantling I'm not ready to tackle yet and the gearknob, which like the wheel, has tired stitching and isn't particularly nice to use - a personal view but hey ho.
I can only tackle one of those right now, so once again, hacksaws and the internet.
And there endeth the budget interior overhaul. Next up, proper mechanical stuff. Or maybe more stickers. Or maybe i'll actually service the OHs Beetle finally.
Edited by Smitters on Friday 1st November 15:44
Well supported cars in terms of DIY guides. Mines been apart more times than a lego kit and I've had every "common fault" going I think. For swivel bearings there's a good guide on RSmegane.com although I just paid a man to do mine as I was absolutely sick of fixing it. If it's making a god awful cracking and creaking noise it's probably the two bolts that hold the rack to the subframe coming undone which is good news because it's a free repair but bad news because it involves lying on the floor flailing about with a swan neck spanner trying to do the little bds up a 1/8 turn at a time.
My cambelt/aux/water pump etc etc was around £500 if I remember rightly so it's not disastrous. What kind of funny smell are you getting? If it's been sitting for a while and smells of feet it's probably been leaking through the doors/sills/scuttle/aircon drain. Meganes are not waterproof.
Your "CHECK INJECTION" followed by "I'M DYING!" mode is extremely common as I'm sure you've discovered. Mine did this and was actually a wiring fault in the end but the loom that runs the injection system also runs the coils, knock sensor, map sensors, N75 thing and some other crap so a fault with any of those will flag up the same message regardless of what's actually failing. Plugs wont actually throw an error code on their own for some reason and nor will a dying fuel pump which will make itself known by having to turn the car over for longer, hesitating and, as the fuel pressure decreases as it begins to throw in the towel your fuel usage will actually increase?
They aren't the most robust cars in the world. If you don't have one get an OBD scanner and keep a working coil pack in the car!
I have seen a workaround regarding your cat fitting issue which involved chopping a section out of the exhaust underneath where you can actually get to it, sleeving it and slotting a sports cat (smaller) into the gap. The idea being you can whip it off after the MOT and bodge it back in to pass when required. Innit.
ds up a 1/8 turn at a time. My cambelt/aux/water pump etc etc was around £500 if I remember rightly so it's not disastrous. What kind of funny smell are you getting? If it's been sitting for a while and smells of feet it's probably been leaking through the doors/sills/scuttle/aircon drain. Meganes are not waterproof.
Your "CHECK INJECTION" followed by "I'M DYING!" mode is extremely common as I'm sure you've discovered. Mine did this and was actually a wiring fault in the end but the loom that runs the injection system also runs the coils, knock sensor, map sensors, N75 thing and some other crap so a fault with any of those will flag up the same message regardless of what's actually failing. Plugs wont actually throw an error code on their own for some reason and nor will a dying fuel pump which will make itself known by having to turn the car over for longer, hesitating and, as the fuel pressure decreases as it begins to throw in the towel your fuel usage will actually increase?
They aren't the most robust cars in the world. If you don't have one get an OBD scanner and keep a working coil pack in the car!
I have seen a workaround regarding your cat fitting issue which involved chopping a section out of the exhaust underneath where you can actually get to it, sleeving it and slotting a sports cat (smaller) into the gap. The idea being you can whip it off after the MOT and bodge it back in to pass when required. Innit.
Edited by StoatInACoat on Friday 1st November 16:12
So, a wildly overdue update, inspired in no small part by Frimley111Rs new car.
In actual fact until June, very little had happened to the car. I drove it a bit but was aware there were several issues stopping me from doing trackdays, not least of which was the stench of exhaust fumes and the volume of the thing, so as winter approached I gave it a good wash and put it on SORN. There it has stayed, because C19, but I did slowly amass some parts and gather my thoughts.
So, on the subject of stickers, the eventual answer was more, and then less.
First, I replaced the torn F1 sticker, though inexpicably, I failed to take an "after" shot. It looks just like the torn one, but not. CAD template action.
I also decided on some individuality. They're the right logo for the period of the car and it amuses me, so I'm pleased with them.
Then some wheels popped up on Facebook, with decent tyres, for a good price. Since I needed four new tyres anyway, man-maths went into overdrive and before long I was trundling north to grab them... pic from the advert
That takes us to about Christmas, at which point I gathered a few bits as and when I could, like a short shifter, but mainly ignored the car in favour of staying warm and dry. As the wheels were pristine, I'd resolved to give them a proper clean and wax before fitting them. Again, favouring warmth over wet, I popped the wheels in the shed and covered them with a rug for, er, six months.
I'd assumed that the C19 lockdown situation would mean a bit more car time, but for some reason the list of house and family related jobs was deemed more important. Finally the summer holiday rolled around, lockdowns eased and the OH took the kids to stay with the grandparents. Now was my time!
I had done some investigating and it transpired the exhaust smells were coming from a poorly sealed turbo to decat pipe. You could see the black mark on the firewall heatshield. Add to that the first owner had lost a ring in the HVAC system (how?) and set about hacking it to bits. This all meant you really needed to drive with the windows open. Having spoken to Mr MOT down the hill, it would have failed simply for having no cat, irrespective of emissions, so fitting a cat was in my future. I had done some reading and as noted above, recieved the original cat from the owner. This was to prove to be good and bad.
Good - I have the original cat, and it was free.
Bad - apparently you have to remove a driveshaft to fit it.
Good, disguised as bad - the original cat came off with a saw - there'll be no refitting it.
Very good - it's worth money
Bad - sports cats are worth money too
So in the end the conclusion is not some over complex self-weld midbox cat, but I shall purchase a sports cat to go in the original position. I'm hopeful the weighing in the original cat plus selling the decat pipe will fund 50% of the sports cat.
Now all that was required was to remove the decat pipe... on axle-stands, on my sloping drive, while I'm the only person in the house. This wasn't appealing, so I did something else.
I've never been in love with these stickers, but it was quite a big decision to remove them. Not least was the fact they'd been in place for 13 years or more, so it was possible, nay likely, that the paint was faded. But how much?
I chose to remove a small one and find out.
The UV damage meant they came off in very, very small bits.
The conclusion was yes, there was fading, but I'm quite short, therefore can't see it day to day. Thus, They all came off. Very, very slowly, and mostly in small pieces. There was one notable win.
I was so pleased.
I also decided to remove the front and rear bumper stickers. So we went from this:
To this:
I'm much happier with the cleaner lines, though I did leave the small set next to the side-indicators, which I think look good still.
I then essentially set about doing a bunch of jobs at the same time, none of which are finished. I'm slowly renovating the paint, and have done the bonnet and front wings. Next up is the roof, which will also address the last of the residue from the stickers. I've been wondering what state of the wheel-arches are in too, so decided that instead of keeping life simple and just fitting new wheels, I'd do them an end at a time and deep clean all the crap from under the arches at the same time. This is more important at the rear of the car, where it's mostly metal. The front wings are plastic, but of course you still have the foot of the A-post metalwork to check.
Have a gratuitous snowfoam shot.
An aside, my Nilfisk washer broke 20 months into the 24 month warranty. I emailed them and the same day they sent out a complete replacement machine. Fair play.
Turns out the rear looks pretty good. There's some surface rust on the rear beam that I will address, probably as part of a rear end refresh, but for now I scrubbed off the scabby bits and sprayed it with Dynax S50. Then it was on to the fun stuff - fitting new parts.
Reasoning I may was well do the job properly, I rinsed the new wheels, gave them a good scrub, then hit them with fallout remover. Another good scrub, some claybarring to rid them of a few stubborn tar spots and then a good coating of Chemical Guys Wheel Guard, which is a long lasting (I hope) wheel wax. I made sure to do the backs of the wheels as I imagine brake dust will be an issue and these Oz wheels don't have great access.
Good results though.
Until the local wildlife got involved.
The wheelnuts were going to let the new rims down, so they got some love too with Hammerite's finest satin black.
So there we shall leave it, save my favourite moment of summer so far. You'll notice I have studiously avoided anything cat related. Well done me. I'll get there. The main question will be does my spatial reasoning extend as far as removing the various exhaust parts without losing a driveshaft and a load of gearbox oil? Only time will tell. Google suggests not.
So, my favourite moment of summer so far? My friend bought an MX5 Mk3.5. It's an excellent car. He let me drive it and I thoroughly enjoyed it. That did not stop me from some mischief though. Although he's got a whole load of nice carwashing stuff, ready to care for his new baby, I know he's not washed it yet. How? Well, I added a very subtle sticker when he wasn't looking...
In actual fact until June, very little had happened to the car. I drove it a bit but was aware there were several issues stopping me from doing trackdays, not least of which was the stench of exhaust fumes and the volume of the thing, so as winter approached I gave it a good wash and put it on SORN. There it has stayed, because C19, but I did slowly amass some parts and gather my thoughts.
So, on the subject of stickers, the eventual answer was more, and then less.
First, I replaced the torn F1 sticker, though inexpicably, I failed to take an "after" shot. It looks just like the torn one, but not. CAD template action.
I also decided on some individuality. They're the right logo for the period of the car and it amuses me, so I'm pleased with them.
Then some wheels popped up on Facebook, with decent tyres, for a good price. Since I needed four new tyres anyway, man-maths went into overdrive and before long I was trundling north to grab them... pic from the advert
That takes us to about Christmas, at which point I gathered a few bits as and when I could, like a short shifter, but mainly ignored the car in favour of staying warm and dry. As the wheels were pristine, I'd resolved to give them a proper clean and wax before fitting them. Again, favouring warmth over wet, I popped the wheels in the shed and covered them with a rug for, er, six months.
I'd assumed that the C19 lockdown situation would mean a bit more car time, but for some reason the list of house and family related jobs was deemed more important. Finally the summer holiday rolled around, lockdowns eased and the OH took the kids to stay with the grandparents. Now was my time!
I had done some investigating and it transpired the exhaust smells were coming from a poorly sealed turbo to decat pipe. You could see the black mark on the firewall heatshield. Add to that the first owner had lost a ring in the HVAC system (how?) and set about hacking it to bits. This all meant you really needed to drive with the windows open. Having spoken to Mr MOT down the hill, it would have failed simply for having no cat, irrespective of emissions, so fitting a cat was in my future. I had done some reading and as noted above, recieved the original cat from the owner. This was to prove to be good and bad.
Good - I have the original cat, and it was free.
Bad - apparently you have to remove a driveshaft to fit it.
Good, disguised as bad - the original cat came off with a saw - there'll be no refitting it.
Very good - it's worth money
Bad - sports cats are worth money too
So in the end the conclusion is not some over complex self-weld midbox cat, but I shall purchase a sports cat to go in the original position. I'm hopeful the weighing in the original cat plus selling the decat pipe will fund 50% of the sports cat.
Now all that was required was to remove the decat pipe... on axle-stands, on my sloping drive, while I'm the only person in the house. This wasn't appealing, so I did something else.
I've never been in love with these stickers, but it was quite a big decision to remove them. Not least was the fact they'd been in place for 13 years or more, so it was possible, nay likely, that the paint was faded. But how much?
I chose to remove a small one and find out.
The UV damage meant they came off in very, very small bits.
The conclusion was yes, there was fading, but I'm quite short, therefore can't see it day to day. Thus, They all came off. Very, very slowly, and mostly in small pieces. There was one notable win.
I was so pleased.
I also decided to remove the front and rear bumper stickers. So we went from this:
To this:
I'm much happier with the cleaner lines, though I did leave the small set next to the side-indicators, which I think look good still.
I then essentially set about doing a bunch of jobs at the same time, none of which are finished. I'm slowly renovating the paint, and have done the bonnet and front wings. Next up is the roof, which will also address the last of the residue from the stickers. I've been wondering what state of the wheel-arches are in too, so decided that instead of keeping life simple and just fitting new wheels, I'd do them an end at a time and deep clean all the crap from under the arches at the same time. This is more important at the rear of the car, where it's mostly metal. The front wings are plastic, but of course you still have the foot of the A-post metalwork to check.
Have a gratuitous snowfoam shot.
An aside, my Nilfisk washer broke 20 months into the 24 month warranty. I emailed them and the same day they sent out a complete replacement machine. Fair play.
Turns out the rear looks pretty good. There's some surface rust on the rear beam that I will address, probably as part of a rear end refresh, but for now I scrubbed off the scabby bits and sprayed it with Dynax S50. Then it was on to the fun stuff - fitting new parts.
Reasoning I may was well do the job properly, I rinsed the new wheels, gave them a good scrub, then hit them with fallout remover. Another good scrub, some claybarring to rid them of a few stubborn tar spots and then a good coating of Chemical Guys Wheel Guard, which is a long lasting (I hope) wheel wax. I made sure to do the backs of the wheels as I imagine brake dust will be an issue and these Oz wheels don't have great access.
Good results though.
Until the local wildlife got involved.
The wheelnuts were going to let the new rims down, so they got some love too with Hammerite's finest satin black.
So there we shall leave it, save my favourite moment of summer so far. You'll notice I have studiously avoided anything cat related. Well done me. I'll get there. The main question will be does my spatial reasoning extend as far as removing the various exhaust parts without losing a driveshaft and a load of gearbox oil? Only time will tell. Google suggests not.
So, my favourite moment of summer so far? My friend bought an MX5 Mk3.5. It's an excellent car. He let me drive it and I thoroughly enjoyed it. That did not stop me from some mischief though. Although he's got a whole load of nice carwashing stuff, ready to care for his new baby, I know he's not washed it yet. How? Well, I added a very subtle sticker when he wasn't looking...
Great read. I have a yellow (sadly not liquid) RS250. Have had some similar issues to you regarding previous owners removing exhaust cats.
I’d be weary of fitting a sports cat as they can still be iffy come MOT time. At the very least get a 200 cell one that’s right up near the turbo. The car I bought currently has a 100 cell sports cat that’s further down the exhaust and did sweet FA for the emissions.
You did well getting the standard cat for free, even if it’s been cut. They’re currently going between 300-400 pounds just now.
Do you know how the remap was removed off your car by any chance? I need that done to mine.
I’d be weary of fitting a sports cat as they can still be iffy come MOT time. At the very least get a 200 cell one that’s right up near the turbo. The car I bought currently has a 100 cell sports cat that’s further down the exhaust and did sweet FA for the emissions.
You did well getting the standard cat for free, even if it’s been cut. They’re currently going between 300-400 pounds just now.
Do you know how the remap was removed off your car by any chance? I need that done to mine.
Gilhooligan said:
Great read. I have a yellow (sadly not liquid) RS250. Have had some similar issues to you regarding previous owners removing exhaust cats.
I’d be weary of fitting a sports cat as they can still be iffy come MOT time. At the very least get a 200 cell one that’s right up near the turbo. The car I bought currently has a 100 cell sports cat that’s further down the exhaust and did sweet FA for the emissions.
You did well getting the standard cat for free, even if it’s been cut. They’re currently going between 300-400 pounds just now.
Do you know how the remap was removed off your car by any chance? I need that done to mine.
Yeah - I'll be going 200 cell by the turbo. I just need to figure out the easiest was to weigh the old cat in.I’d be weary of fitting a sports cat as they can still be iffy come MOT time. At the very least get a 200 cell one that’s right up near the turbo. The car I bought currently has a 100 cell sports cat that’s further down the exhaust and did sweet FA for the emissions.
You did well getting the standard cat for free, even if it’s been cut. They’re currently going between 300-400 pounds just now.
Do you know how the remap was removed off your car by any chance? I need that done to mine.
The remap was removed during the original session. IIRC they mapped it with the various mods in place and the clutch began to slip, so they restored it to OEM. This is all word of mouth though. I'd have thought the original mappers could do it easily, but will likely charge.
Hol said:
Did you replace or recover the original steering wheel in the end?
I stuck a Clio200 one on mine. Straight replacement but slightly chunkier in the grip.
I didn't. Or at least not yet. The money earmarked is going on the cat. Good to know a Clio 200 is a straight fit though, especially if it retains the airbag. I think on balance I'll only remove an airbag if I get a proper seat and harnesses. A retrimmed Clio wheel could be a nice middle ground.I stuck a Clio200 one on mine. Straight replacement but slightly chunkier in the grip.
Smitters said:
Gary29 said:
Smitters said:
However, for £3,500, I still thought it was a fair price. Until the engine lights came on and it developed the mother of all misfires under load...
They all do that sir! Seems a common issue, my Trophy had this fault intermittently and my F4RT engine Megane iii does it too, I've never really gotten to the bottom of it.
I shan't spoil the whole thing, but suffice to say I was quite pleased I didn't have to refit the decat and drive the car to the garage, then pay the man to pull the front right corner apart. Which is good news, because the reason I was rushing to get this done is the OHs Beetle failed it's MOT spectacularly and requires some welding.
We could really do with having more than one of the four vehicles we've got available to drive and the Megane is blocking what I assume to be a working car in the garage. Mind you, since it's a Lotus, it might have somehow broken itself during lockdown. Either way, I should have a useable yellow car by the weekend...
I've had an exceedingly nice email from a chap here, so here's how I remember doing the decat in a bit more detail:
The workshop manual actually tells a dealer to cut the standard cat out on removal, so for what it's worth, I'd was pleased I didn't have to do that.
In terms of fitting a sport cat, it will still be very, very tight but as the forum post suggests, can be done. I did it on my back, on axle stands, on my own. It was very time consuming and not much fun, but time is free and I was exceedingly pleased I'd done it. I used new gaskets top and bottom and new studs and nuts everywhere too. More on this later.
I used this sports cat: https://www.rstuning.co.uk/product/renault-megane-ii-rs225-r26-r26-r-rst-3-sports-cat/ so I can't speak for others, but this one fitted. The decat I removed had a tab welded on at halfway which attached to a bracket - I removed the bracket entirely from whatever it's mounted to in the bay to give some more room as the RS Tuning sports cat has no bracket.
First point of order is that the tips of the sensors are really fragile, so in fact the best place to store them is wound into the old decat pipe until they're needed. For removal, obviously it's easiest to unplug them, then undo them. They can be super tight - I would always crack it with both ends of the decat/cat in place, then wind it out fully once off the car. I used quite a lot of penetrating fluid ahead of time for this job. Just be mindful of the smoke you'll get if you need to use the car after applying WD40, Plusgas etc. I needed new underwear the first time I saw it pouring out, before I engaged my brain.
The sport cat fitting is from underneath and after I'd realised I was trying to fit it upside down, it took lots of wiggling and a good bit of force to get to past the driveshaft - I think I tapped it with a rubber mallet in the end, but it wasn't a horrible force - just a light knock to get it past a sticky section. Because I was on my own I used a bungee cord or two through the bolt holes at the top of the cat to hang it in place so if I needed a rest it would stay put. I also removed the exhaust centre section entirely to make some room.
Once it was in, the second battle began. The turbo flange has three studs on the turbo and thus three bolts which need tightening. One is easy, the other two are more difficult. I replaced the studs and nuts and made the mistake of getting 13mm nuts. Get as small a nut as you can get away with as the room between the pipe and the nut on the flange is very tight and you need a super-thin socket for a 13mm nut. The biggest issue for me was not getting the nuts onto the studs, but getting them torqued up. If you leave the back one a bit loose, you get a lovely waft of exhaust in the cabin. Presumably this is where having the right tool makes the job easier, so clearly I didn't but a lifetime of patience and a variety of sockets, universal joints and a blast with an electric ratchet at the end did the job. I suppose a wobbly socket would have helped.
I think this was the final setup that got enough torque to stop the pipe leaking.
Anyway, if that helps anyone, great. Apologies for lack of pics. I was busy!
The workshop manual actually tells a dealer to cut the standard cat out on removal, so for what it's worth, I'd was pleased I didn't have to do that.
In terms of fitting a sport cat, it will still be very, very tight but as the forum post suggests, can be done. I did it on my back, on axle stands, on my own. It was very time consuming and not much fun, but time is free and I was exceedingly pleased I'd done it. I used new gaskets top and bottom and new studs and nuts everywhere too. More on this later.
I used this sports cat: https://www.rstuning.co.uk/product/renault-megane-ii-rs225-r26-r26-r-rst-3-sports-cat/ so I can't speak for others, but this one fitted. The decat I removed had a tab welded on at halfway which attached to a bracket - I removed the bracket entirely from whatever it's mounted to in the bay to give some more room as the RS Tuning sports cat has no bracket.
First point of order is that the tips of the sensors are really fragile, so in fact the best place to store them is wound into the old decat pipe until they're needed. For removal, obviously it's easiest to unplug them, then undo them. They can be super tight - I would always crack it with both ends of the decat/cat in place, then wind it out fully once off the car. I used quite a lot of penetrating fluid ahead of time for this job. Just be mindful of the smoke you'll get if you need to use the car after applying WD40, Plusgas etc. I needed new underwear the first time I saw it pouring out, before I engaged my brain.
The sport cat fitting is from underneath and after I'd realised I was trying to fit it upside down, it took lots of wiggling and a good bit of force to get to past the driveshaft - I think I tapped it with a rubber mallet in the end, but it wasn't a horrible force - just a light knock to get it past a sticky section. Because I was on my own I used a bungee cord or two through the bolt holes at the top of the cat to hang it in place so if I needed a rest it would stay put. I also removed the exhaust centre section entirely to make some room.
Once it was in, the second battle began. The turbo flange has three studs on the turbo and thus three bolts which need tightening. One is easy, the other two are more difficult. I replaced the studs and nuts and made the mistake of getting 13mm nuts. Get as small a nut as you can get away with as the room between the pipe and the nut on the flange is very tight and you need a super-thin socket for a 13mm nut. The biggest issue for me was not getting the nuts onto the studs, but getting them torqued up. If you leave the back one a bit loose, you get a lovely waft of exhaust in the cabin. Presumably this is where having the right tool makes the job easier, so clearly I didn't but a lifetime of patience and a variety of sockets, universal joints and a blast with an electric ratchet at the end did the job. I suppose a wobbly socket would have helped.
I think this was the final setup that got enough torque to stop the pipe leaking.
Anyway, if that helps anyone, great. Apologies for lack of pics. I was busy!
In a slightly timely manner, given the "Spotted" article on the front page of PH, my R26 is up for sale. It passed it's MOT about an hour ago, so aside from a good wash and wax and some photos, it's ready to go. Feel free to PM for details, as I haven't submitted the PH ad yet.
I have the best of reasons for sale. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... which I imagine will keep me busy for 2023 and beyond.
However, I'm also moving house, so space, that other old chestnut, is an issue.
I have the best of reasons for sale. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... which I imagine will keep me busy for 2023 and beyond.
However, I'm also moving house, so space, that other old chestnut, is an issue.
Edited by Smitters on Monday 15th May 16:35
I believe we're allowed to link to ads now as long as it's a PH ad? Anyway, mods, if not, please do your thang. Otherwise, check it out! All sensible offered entertained.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15031967
ETA - PH did a buying guide in 2013. May be helpful: https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-buying-gui...
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15031967
ETA - PH did a buying guide in 2013. May be helpful: https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-buying-gui...
Edited by Smitters on Tuesday 16th May 15:24
Just to round out the story, RS55ZEN sold for £4,600 in June. A month passes, then I received some messages from the buyer about it needing thousands spending on it and that my recent MOT was very dodgy. "I will report you to Dept. for Transport", "your MOT tester is getting a visit" type stuff. I don't believe it was sold in that condition for a moment, but there you go. Left a fairly unpleasant taste to be honest, but thankfully numbers are blocked easily these days.
There endeth my Megane journey. And quite possibly, my sales career via FB Marketplace... I know, I know, what did I expect?
There endeth my Megane journey. And quite possibly, my sales career via FB Marketplace... I know, I know, what did I expect?
Smitters said:
Just to round out the story, RS55ZEN sold for £4,600 in June. A month passes, then I received some messages from the buyer about it needing thousands spending on it and that my recent MOT was very dodgy. "I will report you to Dept. for Transport", "your MOT tester is getting a visit" type stuff. I don't believe it was sold in that condition for a moment, but there you go. Left a fairly unpleasant taste to be honest, but thankfully numbers are blocked easily these days.
There endeth my Megane journey. And quite possibly, my sales career via FB Marketplace... I know, I know, what did I expect?
Jesus Christ, why is people do this sThere endeth my Megane journey. And quite possibly, my sales career via FB Marketplace... I know, I know, what did I expect?
t?!?Spoonaltap said:
This is back up for sale, I found this thread after finding the advert on FB and searching for the reg. I'm tempted to go have a look at it, but too worried about spending money in current economic climate.
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