For the price of a lease car deposit - Audi S8 d2
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Standard Audi ‘wiper blades’ bullst then
No mention of discs or pads as the norm and surprisingly common among various shyster main dealers it seems
A Mate with a 24,000 mile F-type for example- drives like Miss Daisy, and Jaguar wants to replace all pads and discs front and back
Preying on the naive
No mention of discs or pads as the norm and surprisingly common among various shyster main dealers it seems
A Mate with a 24,000 mile F-type for example- drives like Miss Daisy, and Jaguar wants to replace all pads and discs front and back
Preying on the naive
See the first post on page 1 for the brakes being replaced with a nice video quote also :-)
In 1 year:
All four tyres (Bridgestone Audi Option)
Disks and pads
Brake fluid
Coolant
Full service (All Audi)
Cambelt, water pump, rollers, tensioners etc (due every 5 years, not just mileage)
New battery
Front undertray/lower spoiler
Rear parking sensors replaced and system update
Good times!
And, on topic that’s a £3k S8 + £3k recommission / service and maintenance over 1 year. So £6k investment, which I think the car is now worth.
A Merc C250d would be around £3k deposit and £300 a month over 2 years. Year 1 would therefore stand at £6.6k and worth nothing to me. Man Maths = I am £6k richer than 2 years ago haha
In 1 year:
All four tyres (Bridgestone Audi Option)
Disks and pads
Brake fluid
Coolant
Full service (All Audi)
Cambelt, water pump, rollers, tensioners etc (due every 5 years, not just mileage)
New battery
Front undertray/lower spoiler
Rear parking sensors replaced and system update
Good times!
And, on topic that’s a £3k S8 + £3k recommission / service and maintenance over 1 year. So £6k investment, which I think the car is now worth.
A Merc C250d would be around £3k deposit and £300 a month over 2 years. Year 1 would therefore stand at £6.6k and worth nothing to me. Man Maths = I am £6k richer than 2 years ago haha
Edited by fastgerman on Thursday 9th May 11:49
fastgerman said:
See the first post on page 1 for the brakes being replaced with a nice video quote also :-)
In 1 year:
All four tyres (Bridgestone Audi Option)
Disks and pads
Brake fluid
Coolant
Full service (All Audi)
Cambelt, water pump, rollers, tensioners etc (due every 5 years, not just mileage)
New battery
Front undertray/lower spoiler
Rear parking sensors replaced and system update
Good times!
And, on topic that’s a £3k S8 + £3k recommission / service and maintenance over 1 year. So £6k investment, which I think the car is now worth.
A Merc C250d would be around £3k deposit and £300 a month over 2 years. Year 1 would therefore stand at £6.6k and worth nothing to me. Man Maths = I am £6k richer than 2 years ago haha
On an older car like this it's reassuring to know that all the major service items are done. If the car is worth £6k to you, then all is good.In 1 year:
All four tyres (Bridgestone Audi Option)
Disks and pads
Brake fluid
Coolant
Full service (All Audi)
Cambelt, water pump, rollers, tensioners etc (due every 5 years, not just mileage)
New battery
Front undertray/lower spoiler
Rear parking sensors replaced and system update
Good times!
And, on topic that’s a £3k S8 + £3k recommission / service and maintenance over 1 year. So £6k investment, which I think the car is now worth.
A Merc C250d would be around £3k deposit and £300 a month over 2 years. Year 1 would therefore stand at £6.6k and worth nothing to me. Man Maths = I am £6k richer than 2 years ago haha
Appreciate you being transparent about the costs. Any big/complex car is going to require some recommissioning when it gets down to "bargain barge" price levels, and it annoys me when people downplay this (or casually assume that everyone has the tools and the expertise and the free time to do the work themselves).
Edited by spreadsheet monkey on Thursday 9th May 13:01
There is a huge difference in OEM prices vs aftermarket. I remember my days at BMW UK and genuine parts vs Euro Car Parts. I would never touch non-OEM.
The tyres were price matched with Halfords.
The cambelt, water pump, rollers, hydraulic tensioners etc were nearly £700 of parts trade through TPS.
I don’t think the above could have been significantly bettered via a specialist with genuine parts. In fact one company quoted £1800.
You can get cambelt kits for £300 with ‘all the parts’ and then a good specialist to spend 5 hours. I don’t think it’s worth the risk for such important parts. Tyres and brakes, maybe.
The car now should be good for some time (fingers crossed).
The tyres were price matched with Halfords.
The cambelt, water pump, rollers, hydraulic tensioners etc were nearly £700 of parts trade through TPS.
I don’t think the above could have been significantly bettered via a specialist with genuine parts. In fact one company quoted £1800.
You can get cambelt kits for £300 with ‘all the parts’ and then a good specialist to spend 5 hours. I don’t think it’s worth the risk for such important parts. Tyres and brakes, maybe.
The car now should be good for some time (fingers crossed).
Agree on your logic ref source of parts etc. Also worth noting it's not unknown for garages to quote you for OEM parts and then fit 'pattern' ones, so you get the bill but not necessarily the longevity you expect (and you only find out far too late to do anything about it). Some of the tensioners are painfully expensive on these V8 engines. if you source the parts yourself and have a garage fit, the warranty on the parts doesn't cover the labour cost, which is a good reason to always have the garage fitting source the parts used.
It's an often quoted statement that with the parts prices being such a high proportion of the total bill, and with dealers being prepared to haggle on total cost, it doesn't make much odds if a dealer or indy does the job in cost terms. A main dealer tech probably won't have worked on one of these when they were a regular-ish sight in workshops, but they all come apart in much the same way, fortunately.
It's an often quoted statement that with the parts prices being such a high proportion of the total bill, and with dealers being prepared to haggle on total cost, it doesn't make much odds if a dealer or indy does the job in cost terms. A main dealer tech probably won't have worked on one of these when they were a regular-ish sight in workshops, but they all come apart in much the same way, fortunately.
Adrian E said:
It's an often quoted statement that with the parts prices being such a high proportion of the total bill, and with dealers being prepared to haggle on total cost, it doesn't make much odds if a dealer or indy does the job in cost terms. A main dealer tech probably won't have worked on one of these when they were a regular-ish sight in workshops, but they all come apart in much the same way, fortunately.
My Merc indy told me that the money on parts helps to supplement the labour rates, particularly in the event of a warranty claim. It's how he runs the business and I actually believe him and trust him not to take the piss. If I have a self-sourced part to fit then I'll ask if he is happy to do so first. I don't intend to be a piss taker with him as I feel that. so far, they do a good job, well, and at the first time of asking.
Adrian E said:
Agree on your logic ref source of parts etc. Also worth noting it's not unknown for garages to quote you for OEM parts and then fit 'pattern' ones, so you get the bill but not necessarily the longevity you expect (and you only find out far too late to do anything about it). Some of the tensioners are painfully expensive on these V8 engines. if you source the parts yourself and have a garage fit, the warranty on the parts doesn't cover the labour cost, which is a good reason to always have the garage fitting source the parts used.
It's an often quoted statement that with the parts prices being such a high proportion of the total bill, and with dealers being prepared to haggle on total cost, it doesn't make much odds if a dealer or indy does the job in cost terms. A main dealer tech probably won't have worked on one of these when they were a regular-ish sight in workshops, but they all come apart in much the same way, fortunately.
Yes always should be OEM, we don’t want Landsail tyres or eBay ‘cambelt kits’ :-)It's an often quoted statement that with the parts prices being such a high proportion of the total bill, and with dealers being prepared to haggle on total cost, it doesn't make much odds if a dealer or indy does the job in cost terms. A main dealer tech probably won't have worked on one of these when they were a regular-ish sight in workshops, but they all come apart in much the same way, fortunately.
Attached for info if anyone wants to ensure all the correct parts are used:
If you are ever looking for an Audi A8 D2 specialist, you might want to check out the D2 Doctor, she can be found on Facebook, and is based in or around Somerset I believe.
I can't confirm myself as I haven't taken mine there (yet); but she gets absolute praise on the Audi A8 Parts forum. Quite a feat considering that it's not her main job (IT consultant during the day). I think her user name is Mikki Jane, check out some of the work on her posts.
I can't confirm myself as I haven't taken mine there (yet); but she gets absolute praise on the Audi A8 Parts forum. Quite a feat considering that it's not her main job (IT consultant during the day). I think her user name is Mikki Jane, check out some of the work on her posts.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/D2Doctor/photos/?ref=p...
Some serious skills there!
Unfortunately no photo to help on my query though :-( unless i'm missing something?
Some serious skills there!
Unfortunately no photo to help on my query though :-( unless i'm missing something?
Got to be something to do with the engine undertray, surely?
On my C5 A6 the front part of the undertray has a sort of pointy tongue-in-groove arrangement, supplemented by 4 bolts into the bumper and 2 at the rear into the subframe.
All that said, it almost sounds too obvious, as I’m sure you would know if missing your undertray!
On my C5 A6 the front part of the undertray has a sort of pointy tongue-in-groove arrangement, supplemented by 4 bolts into the bumper and 2 at the rear into the subframe.
All that said, it almost sounds too obvious, as I’m sure you would know if missing your undertray!
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