Lexus LS460

Author
Discussion

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
quotequote all
There was a slight vibration under heavy braking once the brakes were hot, the rear discs and pads have been replaced and this has rectified the issue. Again, due to my "deal" going on, I fortunately didn't have to pay a penny for the work. This was done a few weeks ago.

In terms of other "problems" or "niggles" - the car continues to be great and is running well with no issues I can think of. I just checked the engine oil and it hasn't drunk anything. It's doing mainly short trips at the moment aside from 50 miles today. 7 weeks or so I'm off on holiday (350 miles each way) so that'll give it a nice run again. Shortly after that it's due a service and MOT.

Total cost in servicing to me has still been 0 pence in almost 3 years, so this has been the cheapest car to run I've ever had laugh Just fuel and tax are fairly costly (£600/year VED).

Dg504

277 posts

165 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
quotequote all
That is an unbelievably sweet deal!

Enjoying your notes on these - while my girlfriend called a local 460 ‘an old man’s car’ I do have a hankering for one - now that our mileage is minimal and we’re plus baby, I’d prefer to spend the same on travelling in peace and safety

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
quotequote all
Car needs a new back box it would seem. I filled up with fuel yesterday to find what appeared to be a wig coming out of the exhaust. I've messaged my "the man" so will see what's what. I gather there's a risk it can block the exhaust and mean the engine will lose power or won't work. I'm going on holiday in 3 weeks which will involve around 1k miles of driving so I'm kinda hoping to get it done beforehand.



PurpleTurtle

7,154 posts

146 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
quotequote all
I’ve always been a fan of these. Amazed you can get such good mpg on a run from such a big heavy luxo-barge.

At what mileage do they generally throw the big steering rack wobbler?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Thursday 15th September 2022
quotequote all
PurpleTurtle said:
I’ve always been a fan of these. Amazed you can get such good mpg on a run from such a big heavy luxo-barge.

At what mileage do they generally throw the big steering rack wobbler?
No particular mileage or age. Some throw it at quite low mileage, others have 200k without issues! It's just a gamble I guess.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Friday 14th October 2022
quotequote all
RE the steering rack - I actually asked whether they could be refurbished, and whether it is still a £5k fix. Turns out, it isn't (or at least doesn't appear to be so).

You can get a Nippon unit replacement for £850, or an official one from an online retailer for about £2k. Plus fitting, of course.

The car didn't need a new exhaust in the end. It's just come back from doing around 1000 miles in a week, and was flawless - except there is still a pretty nasty vibration under braking from high speed. Could be warped discs (again!) or suspension bushes or something.

MOT and thorough service next week and this will be getting checked out. It'll be a full service except it does not need new plugs or coolant.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
quotequote all
So the car has thrown a fault with the TPMS. Last time it had a fault it was showing the pressures of 4 of the 5 tyres (obviously including the spare), whereas now it just says there's a fault and to visit a dealer.

This happened about 4-5 weeks ago, but it disappeared within 10mins or so, but this is not going away. It had 4 new batteries (not spare) replaced a while ago, but as said, this seems different. Any ideas what could cause the issue?

nomank

241 posts

197 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
quotequote all
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
RE the steering rack - I actually asked whether they could be refurbished, and whether it is still a £5k fix. Turns out, it isn't (or at least doesn't appear to be so).

You can get a Nippon unit replacement for £850, or an official one from an online retailer for about £2k. Plus fitting, of course.

The car didn't need a new exhaust in the end. It's just come back from doing around 1000 miles in a week, and was flawless - except there is still a pretty nasty vibration under braking from high speed. Could be warped discs (again!) or suspension bushes or something.

MOT and thorough service next week and this will be getting checked out. It'll be a full service except it does not need new plugs or coolant.
I'm a massive Lexus fan and had multiple IS's, GS's and RX's. One thing that affected them ALL and i'm sure it's highly likely with the LS too is brake calipers binding/seizing. Allegedly the pins don't get greased as part of the servicing at main dealers. This has cause me experiencing the vibration at high speeds on every single one of them. A refurb or a new caliper in each instance with usually new discs/pads thrown in for good measure...

StonedRollin

1,679 posts

212 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
quotequote all
nomank said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
RE the steering rack - I actually asked whether they could be refurbished, and whether it is still a £5k fix. Turns out, it isn't (or at least doesn't appear to be so).

You can get a Nippon unit replacement for £850, or an official one from an online retailer for about £2k. Plus fitting, of course.

The car didn't need a new exhaust in the end. It's just come back from doing around 1000 miles in a week, and was flawless - except there is still a pretty nasty vibration under braking from high speed. Could be warped discs (again!) or suspension bushes or something.

MOT and thorough service next week and this will be getting checked out. It'll be a full service except it does not need new plugs or coolant.
I'm a massive Lexus fan and had multiple IS's, GS's and RX's. One thing that affected them ALL and i'm sure it's highly likely with the LS too is brake calipers binding/seizing. Allegedly the pins don't get greased as part of the servicing at main dealers. This has cause me experiencing the vibration at high speeds on every single one of them. A refurb or a new caliper in each instance with usually new discs/pads thrown in for good measure...
Greasing the pins sorted the issues i had with vibration under braking in my IS250. It's a very common problem.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
quotequote all
The car has had new discs and pads FOC and it has resolved the issue. I'll mention greasing the pins next time it's in for some work. Cheers for the tips!

RicksAlfas

13,458 posts

246 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
quotequote all
StonedRollin said:
Greasing the pins sorted the issues i had with vibration under braking in my IS250. It's a very common problem.
Had exactly the same thing on my Mercedes. Again it's a common problem which Merc dealers like to "solve" by charging you for new discs and pads, when it just needs an hour of old fashioned preventative maintenance...

RogerDodgerSuperTodger

4,596 posts

188 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
quotequote all
RicksAlfas said:
StonedRollin said:
Greasing the pins sorted the issues i had with vibration under braking in my IS250. It's a very common problem.
Had exactly the same thing on my Mercedes. Again it's a common problem which Merc dealers like to "solve" by charging you for new discs and pads, when it just needs an hour of old fashioned preventative maintenance...
Yup. Had the same on my IS a few years ago. Easily fixed smile

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Friday 9th December 2022
quotequote all
So I pressed the reset button on the TPMS, it reset itself, showed pressures for 4 tyres, but not the spare, it just hangs on "checking", so I'm sure it's just a dead battery. Will get that done soon.

donkmeister

8,433 posts

102 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
quotequote all
RogerDodgerSuperTodger said:
RicksAlfas said:
StonedRollin said:
Greasing the pins sorted the issues i had with vibration under braking in my IS250. It's a very common problem.
Had exactly the same thing on my Mercedes. Again it's a common problem which Merc dealers like to "solve" by charging you for new discs and pads, when it just needs an hour of old fashioned preventative maintenance...
Yup. Had the same on my IS a few years ago. Easily fixed smile
I know that on the LS460 the standard brake pad replacement job is meant to include resurfacing the discs on a lathe... Probably for the final few percent of refinement more than anything.

I replaced the discs and pads on the back of mine and found that the pins needed a jolly good clean - I just put them in the chuck of a drill and polished them up with fine scotchbrite and brake clean. Good as new, and went back in to the holes by hand. When clean, they actually feel worryingly loose until you put the retainer springs in - the ones that go through the pins.

Point of note: the discs are left and right handed. This is due to the direction of the vents (think old sporty Escort wheels). Some clot (at a Lexus main dealer) had ignored both the part numbers and the big R and L stamped on the bell of each disc and mounted them the wrong way (much like many old sporty Escort wheels and C4 Corvettes).

Don Roque

18,034 posts

161 months

Saturday 10th December 2022
quotequote all
Great thread Ross, the car looks great. A long time since the days of E65Ross!

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
quotequote all
Car is now for sale!

Northbrook

1,449 posts

65 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
quotequote all
What's next?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
quotequote all
Northbrook said:
What's next?
Not sure yet, but I'm leaning to something like a Jag XFR or BMW E92 M3. My old man used to have an M3 and I loved that car a lot!

josh00mac

323 posts

110 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
quotequote all
Can’t anyone post the ad link? Is that permitted?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

Original Poster:

35,227 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
quotequote all
josh00mac said:
Can’t anyone post the ad link? Is that permitted?
I believe someone posted it here

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...