The one and only 2016 VW Polo Gti 6C

The one and only 2016 VW Polo Gti 6C

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JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

101 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
'07. Dylan Campbell
“A hot hatch for over-30s; makes the Fiesta feel like a car for teenagers.”

I think this what joe is getting at.
Exactly....and this:

It’s a very refined package, and very sure-footed on the limit”
“Probably the most complete package of all the hot hatches as well; not as sketchy on the limit"

They did get a few things wrong though in the spec sheet..

It doesn't have continental tyres
It has 215/40/17 not 205/20/17
Brakes are 312mm not 283mm

I've not seen that review before until now. But I think its quite impressive how it beat the Golf Gti to 100kmh and did a 14.5 second quarter mile!

When presented with a perspective like that that echoes my own thoughts on the car it's hard to not argue with the cynics/critics of it. I'm well aware it has downfalls but if the time ever comes to sell it in the future what the hell do I follow it up with that isn't going to cost me another 15k or so?!

Edited by JoeMarano on Tuesday 1st November 06:24

Pommygranite

14,280 posts

217 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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JoeMarano said:
The Spruce goose said:
'07. Dylan Campbell
“A hot hatch for over-30s; makes the Fiesta feel like a car for teenagers.”

I think this what joe is getting at.
Exactly....and this:

It’s a very refined package, and very sure-footed on the limit”
“Probably the most complete package of all the hot hatches as well; not as sketchy on the limit"

They did get a few things wrong though in the spec sheet..

It doesn't have continental tyres
It has 215/40/17 not 205/20/17
Brakes are 312mm not 283mm

I've not seen that review before until now. But I think its quite impressive how it beat the Golf Gti to 100kmh and did a 14.5 second quarter mile!

When presented with a perspective like that that echoes my own thoughts on the car it's hard to not argue with the cynics/critics of it. I'm well aware it has downfalls but if the time ever comes to sell it in the future what the hell do I follow it up with that isn't going to cost me another 15k or so?!

Edited by JoeMarano on Tuesday 1st November 06:24
That is an Australian magazine so the spec may well be different.

I think you might avoided the negatives against the Fiesta wink

I asked my wife what she thought of it - she said 'it's alright if you like bh cars' laugh


JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

101 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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To be fair whatever car I'm currently driving is automatically the best thing ever. I like any and all cars even slow ones. I drove the Polo S a little while back (the most bog standard Polo you can buy) and still had a blast with it!

Maybe I should shut up and work out how I can convince the missus that my brand new car needs new wheels, tyres, pads and a LSD...

f1nn

2,693 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Joe, what do you consider to be the downsides to the Polo?

DanielSan

18,835 posts

168 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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JoeMarano said:
Meh I'm bored now...

I suppose you think a Megane R26R is a better all rounder than a Golf Gti...
Suspension is softer so better ride, boot is way bigger, quicker and because it's lost so much weight it's better on fuel. That makes a pretty good all rounder

dci

530 posts

142 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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JoeMarano said:
Yes the Fiesta is great and all but is it a great all rounder? With just 3 doors? With gearboxes that need changing 3 times if you add another 100bhp? With the ride quality? With the looks?
There is a 5 door available also.

I'm a member of the owners club and on the forums there are lots of cars running over 280 BHP and I've never seen a complaint about the gearbox, pulled that one out of your arse I think Joe. These cars are often complimented on how much headroom the engine and drivetrain has above standard.

There was a suspension revision mid 2015, the ride is now much more compliant.

Looks are subjective, personally I think the Polo looks boring but that doesn't mean anything because as said, looks are subjective.

I think sales figures speak for themselves, there's a reason almost every other hot hatch has outsold the Polo and that isn't because the Polo is expensive.

HustleRussell

24,772 posts

161 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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So there you go- if you want a hot hatch which is Fiesta sized and pretty much as good as a Fiesta, but you want the turbo to fail after 500 miles, the Polo GTI is the one for you.

RumbleOfThunder

3,566 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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"Hi, I'd like the dullest, most boring hot hatch on sale please". That's you Joe, with your middle class, "classy" choice. laugh

Maty

1,233 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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I think it boils down to the fact that no one really cares about it. We all buy cars for our own reasons. If you love your Polo then good for you, but you're just coming across as a bit of a dick about it now.

I love my Octavia VRS. I think its a better 'all rounder' than the Golf GTi that its based on but I don't go pouring over car forums about it trying to convince everyone that its the greatest car in the world and it will beat anything you throw at it around Snetterton.

I used to race an XR3i in the XR Challenge years ago. We used track days as test days. The cars were bog standard engine wise, 1.6 with around 95bhp (if you had a decent engine). Stripped out, roll cages, seam welded, sticky tyres and LEDA suspension, oh and an LSD. The amount of supposedly fast cars we walked all over on those days was ridiculous (in the corners obviously), Subaru's, M3's, slower Porsche's etc etc. Many people would come over to see what engine we were running, turbo etc and would all be shocked when they learnt it was a standard Escort. The reason being is that most people at the time didn't know how to drive their cars 'properly' and my point being, just because you are 'keeping up' with an M3 on a track day in your Polo doesn't mean the more expensive M3 is inferior, it just not being driven as hard as your little Polo.

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

101 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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f1nn said:
Joe, what do you consider to be the downsides to the Polo?
Less boots space due to the battery being there.
Turbo runs out of puff around 6500rpm
Standard brakes fade
Is a bit quiet even in the sport mode

That's about it.



MDMA .

8,968 posts

102 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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JoeMarano said:
f1nn said:
Joe, what do you consider to be the downsides to the Polo?
Turbo runs out of puff around 6500rpm
it's a turbo. new CTR redline is 7000rpm. you do know how turbo road cars work don't you? you max bhp is probably around 5-5500rpm anyway so pointless revving to 6500rpm in a turbo road car.

JoeMarano

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101 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Yes I'm aware of it I'm just saying it's a downside to the car as someone asked me what I thought were the negatives.

I could rev to 5500 rpm but I would be lower in the revs when the the next gear arrives. It will rev to 7200 which is handy for the approach to some corners although you can audibly hear and feel that it's not really giving you anything past around 6-6.5

Nothing a bigger turbo couldn't sort but I like the low and mid range this has smile

Edited by JoeMarano on Tuesday 1st November 16:23

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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JoeMarano said:
f1nn said:
Joe, what do you consider to be the downsides to the Polo?
Less boots space due to the battery being there.
Turbo runs out of puff around 6500rpm
Standard brakes fade
Is a bit quiet even in the sport mode

That's about it.
I thought your turbo ran out of puff at 5000 miles?

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

101 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Ten points to that man for humour!

helix402

7,893 posts

183 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Here's some splendid wheels on a Polo:



On a less trivial note, glad you're enjoying the car and track day adventures.


JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

101 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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Ah the 6R Polo Gti...

I am not a fan of the whole VAG gay white stickers on the rear window and low and slow with blingy wheels.

Much prefer the motorsport or wrc look myself but each to their own...

Thanks. I could be in any of the current small hatches and be having a blast to be fair. This works for me though smile

TheJimi

25,044 posts

244 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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The BMW wasn't "blocking" you, per-se, rather I think it was just a combination of the BMW driver being a bit useless and you not quite having enough power to make the move stick.

JoeMarano

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101 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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TheJimi said:
The BMW wasn't "blocking" you, per-se, rather I think it was just a combination of the BMW driver being a bit useless and you not quite having enough power to make the move stick.
Sort of. But once I've passed I'm a good few seconds ahead by only three or four corners so pretty sure he just didn't want to let me by. No biggy I had just enough power on the straight to get past although I was under the impression BMW compacts wern't that fast?

TheJimi

25,044 posts

244 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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JoeMarano said:
TheJimi said:
The BMW wasn't "blocking" you, per-se, rather I think it was just a combination of the BMW driver being a bit useless and you not quite having enough power to make the move stick.
Sort of. But once I've passed I'm a good few seconds ahead by only three or four corners so pretty sure he just didn't want to let me by. No biggy I had just enough power on the straight to get past although I was under the impression BMW compacts wern't that fast?
No "sort of" about it.

Look at what the driver of the compact does - he or she runs VERY wide on a few occasions, missing the apex completely and is nowhere near you in order to "block" you.

Assuming that was a 325TI, then it's circa 190bhp / 180Ib/ft / 1400kg.

I'd expect the outcome to be pretty much as seen in your video above - that is, not a great deal of difference, which is why you struggled to pass. IMO...








JoeMarano

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101 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I would say the sheer fact that he gets caught and then has a Polo latched to his rear bumper for almost a full lap is a good indicator that he should move over. By not doing so that's effectively blocking as im not going to force an overtake on a trackday