Ford Focus V8

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

Yep, that's what Ford got in trouble for with the Pinto, tanks blowing up in such scenarios. They worked out it was cheaper to pay out upon deaths than rectify it, shame for them an ex-employee whistle blew.

[Jaffman]

does anyone know a south wales engineering firm or a back garage hobbyist that can machine some stub axles for em in the current climate?

I'm at a bit of an impasse and i need these made before i can continue but I'm finding it difficult.

preferably a hobbyist to keep the costs down, considering they will be prototypes.

[Fastdruid]

Try posting on https://www.machining-4u.co.uk/ ?

[Jaffman]

Fastdruid said:

Try posting on https://www.machining-4u.co.uk/ ?

that's really useful! thanks

will give it a go

[RobXjcoupe]

Any reason a standard readily available part can’t be used or modified?

[Jaffman]

RobXjcoupe said:

Any reason a standard readily available part can’t be used or modified?

care to find me one? lol

unfortunately its not a standard item. ive tried to modify s2000 ones to fit but they're just not long enough

[RobXjcoupe]

Jaffman said:

RobXjcoupe said:

Any reason a standard readily available part can’t be used or modified?

care to find me one? lol

unfortunately its not a standard item. ive tried to modify s2000 ones to fit but they're just not long enough

What’s wrong with using the standard focus hubs?

[RobXjcoupe]

Are you using the original mk1 focus uprights and front suspension?

[Jaffman]

RobXjcoupe said:

Are you using the original mk1 focus uprights and front suspension?

yeah but theyre not 5 stud to match the wheels which i bought to match the 5 stud rear.

[RobXjcoupe]

Jaffman said:

RobXjcoupe said:

Are you using the original mk1 focus uprights and front suspension?

yeah but theyre not 5 stud to match the wheels which i bought to match the 5 stud rear.

What is the 5 stud rear pcd then?

[Jaffman]

RobXjcoupe said:

What is the 5 stud rear pcd then?

5x114.3 (nissan fittment)

front ford is 4x108?

I have used the s2000 hubs to fit but they dont allow the brakes I want to use to fit

[RobXjcoupe]

Just trying to figure something out for you.
Making new custom hubs isn’t difficult but dimensions are essential together with the correct tolerance with your sizes. Then what about brake discs and calipers.
The rear 5 stud fitting I would think is easier to convert to match the front standard parts. Does that make sense?
I’m a toolmaker by trade

[Jaffman]

RobXjcoupe said:

Just trying to figure something out for you.
Making new custom hubs isn’t difficult but dimensions are essential together with the correct tolerance with your sizes. Then what about brake discs and calipers.
The rear 5 stud fitting I would think is easier to convert to match the front standard parts. Does that make sense?
I’m a toolmaker by trade

so it was a choice, im using the 350z read subframe as a whole and they have a sort of integrated bearing carrier that bolts on that determines the hub that fits and the handbrake drum inside the disk and the offset. it also has a driveshaft coming through it so its just complications all around. i decided its easier to elave the rear as it is and get wheels to fit the rear. (5x114) so i bought them and they fit nice.



so that left sorting the front out which is something i was going to have to do anyway converting them from driven wheels to not driven wheels. normaly youd just cut the CV joint off a driveshaft and pull the bearing down like that. but that leaves me with the 4x108 pattern on the hub. so to fix the 4x100 pattern i searched for a stub axle on a rearwheel drive car that had the correct stud pattern (5x114) and was big enought hat i could turn down and have it fit in the ford hub as a replacment meaning im not cutting driveshafts etc. and its just a simple bolt on. thats something i managed to do wihtout too much effort using my crappy little lathe...


(standard ford with the hole on the left, turned down s2000 hub to fit on the right)

worked fine apart from the offset on the hub to fit the focus RS calipers and bigger disks.

now im coming around to fitting the brakes they dont because of this offset so what i want is the offset fixed on the hub by making new ones from scratch (hence the CAD drawing) that ive drawn up

trust me, ive been over this over and over and over again lol. this is the simplest solution providing i can find someone to do it for me

[RobXjcoupe]

If the s2000 hubs are ok in the ford uprights why don’t you use a spacer to get the correct offset to fit the front discs you want?

[Jaffman]

RobXjcoupe said:

If the s2000 hubs are ok in the ford uprights why don’t you use a spacer to get the correct offset to fit the front discs you want?

because the s2000 stub axles arent long enough to recover the offset.

look at the turned down hub here...



and compare it whith the offset required on the CAD drtawing...



the difference is about 12mm

so I could have a 12mm spacer behind the disk like a lot of the focus owners to when they upgrade but tbh that makes me feel uneasy and if im modifying the front hubs why not make them that fit first as last?

[RobXjcoupe]

Just read your more detailed explanation. Right so to correct the front s2000 offset. I just see a spacer of given dimension and correct pcd with a concentric design and use longer studs to clamp everything together?

[Jaffman]

RobXjcoupe said:

Just read your more detailed explanation. Right so to correct the front s2000 offset. I just see a spacer of given dimension and correct pcd with a concentric design and use longer studs to clamp everything together?

see above, i could, but its behind the disk which i dont like because its not the normal thing to do. and if im pissing about, why not make a hub the right size?

[RobXjcoupe]

Honestly a 12mm spacer is nothing. Using good quality longer wheel studs wouldn’t give you any issues.
I would say make the spacer from steel rather than aluminium as it’s the disc to hub rather than wheel to brake disc contact. The steel won’t deform like aluminium.

[Jaffman]

RobXjcoupe said:

Honestly a 12mm spacer is nothing. Using good quality longer wheel studs wouldn’t give you any issues.
I would say make the spacer from steel rather than aluminium as it’s the disc to hub rather than wheel to brake disc contact. The steel won’t deform like aluminium.

could do.

its an option, id still have to turn a freaking spacer lol.

my lathe is poop

[RobXjcoupe]

The spacer will still need to be a perfect fit over the hub otherwise it would be shoddy. That saying, you modified those s2000 hubs. Collet Chuck or 4 jaw?