Lexus LS460

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bolidemichael

13,935 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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It's clear from the images, perhaps the previous owner was a track day enthusiast?

Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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35,152 posts

213 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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bolidemichael said:
Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!
You could make the same argument for any failure, ever though, surely?

bolidemichael

13,935 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!
You could make the same argument for any failure, ever though, surely?
The sparks were already overdue, so I was operating on borrowed time.

Since it's new to you, an opportunity for a service and inspection would be of interest to me, particularly considering the potentially racy credentials of the previous owner. Bushes and other perishables would be good to replace as the Summer approches, if showing signs of wear.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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35,152 posts

213 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!
You could make the same argument for any failure, ever though, surely?
The sparks were already overdue, so I was operating on borrowed time.

Since it's new to you, an opportunity for a service and inspection would be of interest to me, particularly considering the potentially racy credentials of the previous owner. Bushes and other perishables would be good to replace as the Summer approches, if showing signs of wear.
I'll likely get it looked over in the next few weeks, but I think you worry too much. Maybe he did take it on track days. Maybe they only used it in dry weather and the tyre place recommended that tyre, or only had that Michelin in stock and it has never seen a track before.

bolidemichael

13,935 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!
You could make the same argument for any failure, ever though, surely?
The sparks were already overdue, so I was operating on borrowed time.

Since it's new to you, an opportunity for a service and inspection would be of interest to me, particularly considering the potentially racy credentials of the previous owner. Bushes and other perishables would be good to replace as the Summer approches, if showing signs of wear.
I'll likely get it looked over in the next few weeks, but I think you worry too much. Maybe he did take it on track days. Maybe they only used it in dry weather and the tyre place recommended that tyre, or only had that Michelin in stock and it has never seen a track before.
I'm not worried, just chatting because thread.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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35,152 posts

213 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!
You could make the same argument for any failure, ever though, surely?
The sparks were already overdue, so I was operating on borrowed time.

Since it's new to you, an opportunity for a service and inspection would be of interest to me, particularly considering the potentially racy credentials of the previous owner. Bushes and other perishables would be good to replace as the Summer approches, if showing signs of wear.
I'll likely get it looked over in the next few weeks, but I think you worry too much. Maybe he did take it on track days. Maybe they only used it in dry weather and the tyre place recommended that tyre, or only had that Michelin in stock and it has never seen a track before.
I'm not worried, just chatting because thread.
I didn't mean you were worried RE my tyres, just that you (seemingly) worry unnecessarily. Maybe.

I gather the tyres won't last very long, and if they're unsuitable then I shall change them smile

bolidemichael

13,935 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
bolidemichael said:
Apropos service, that's what I told myself with twelve hundred miles to go... a coil pack failed, which could've possibly have been spotted with an inspection whilst the spark plugs were being changed!
You could make the same argument for any failure, ever though, surely?
The sparks were already overdue, so I was operating on borrowed time.

Since it's new to you, an opportunity for a service and inspection would be of interest to me, particularly considering the potentially racy credentials of the previous owner. Bushes and other perishables would be good to replace as the Summer approches, if showing signs of wear.
I'll likely get it looked over in the next few weeks, but I think you worry too much. Maybe he did take it on track days. Maybe they only used it in dry weather and the tyre place recommended that tyre, or only had that Michelin in stock and it has never seen a track before.
I'm not worried, just chatting because thread.
I didn't mean you were worried RE my tyres, just that you (seemingly) worry unnecessarily. Maybe.

I gather the tyres won't last very long, and if they're unsuitable then I shall change them smile
I wouldn't worry about it, or the rod bearings or the service laugh

bumskins

1,437 posts

16 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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bolidemichael said:
I wouldn't worry about it, or the rod bearings or the service laugh
The thread hasn't even started yet and someone has mentioned 'rod bearings' - is that a record..?

bolidemichael

13,935 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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bumskins said:
bolidemichael said:
I wouldn't worry about it, or the rod bearings or the service laugh
The thread hasn't even started yet and someone has mentioned 'rod bearings' - is that a record..?
He has already budgeted for them -- sensible.

-Cappo-

19,641 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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In close to 50 years of titting about with pretty much every single component on a car, I've never come across the term "rod bearings". Are we talking big end shells here? And they're considered a service item on this engine?

Notwithstanding, good decisive work on the sell/buy Ross!

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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35,152 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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-Cappo- said:
In close to 50 years of titting about with pretty much every single component on a car, I've never come across the term "rod bearings". Are we talking big end shells here? And they're considered a service item on this engine?

Notwithstanding, good decisive work on the sell/buy Ross!
They are considered as a "must do". However, I gather there are altered bearings available which means that, once done, never need doing again

It will cost me £1800. Eep! Still, cheaper than a new engine.....

RicksAlfas

13,425 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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-Cappo- said:
In close to 50 years of titting about with pretty much every single component on a car, I've never come across the term "rod bearings". Are we talking big end shells here? And they're considered a service item on this engine?

Notwithstanding, good decisive work on the sell/buy Ross!
I was intrigued by this too, and a bit of Googling suggests it is recommended to replace the conrod bearings (big end shells) at 80,000 miles on pre-2011 cars and it's a chunky job as the subframe and steering rack have to be moved.
e.g.
https://www.evolveautomotive.com/rod-bearing-repla...

Wouldn't get that on a Lexus!
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-Cappo-

19,641 posts

204 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
-Cappo- said:
In close to 50 years of titting about with pretty much every single component on a car, I've never come across the term "rod bearings". Are we talking big end shells here? And they're considered a service item on this engine?

Notwithstanding, good decisive work on the sell/buy Ross!
They are considered as a "must do". However, I gather there are altered bearings available which means that, once done, never need doing again

It will cost me £1800. Eep! Still, cheaper than a new engine.....
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RicksAlfas said:
Wouldn't get that on a Lexus!
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hehe

Cambs_Stuart

2,913 posts

85 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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I have to say 5-6 grand for that Lexus looks like a steal. That's an amazing amount of car (and engineering) for that price.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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35,152 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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RicksAlfas said:
-Cappo- said:
In close to 50 years of titting about with pretty much every single component on a car, I've never come across the term "rod bearings". Are we talking big end shells here? And they're considered a service item on this engine?

Notwithstanding, good decisive work on the sell/buy Ross!
I was intrigued by this too, and a bit of Googling suggests it is recommended to replace the conrod bearings (big end shells) at 80,000 miles on pre-2011 cars and it's a chunky job as the subframe and steering rack have to be moved.
e.g.
https://www.evolveautomotive.com/rod-bearing-repla...

Wouldn't get that on a Lexus!
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Interesting, mine is a 2011 car....does that mean the problem isn't a problem?

RicksAlfas

13,425 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Interesting, mine is a 2011 car....does that mean the problem isn't a problem?
Worth asking someone who knows what they are on about. That was the first link I found and says "The replacement rod bearings used are the new updated design from 2011 onwards" so you might be OK.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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35,152 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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RicksAlfas said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Interesting, mine is a 2011 car....does that mean the problem isn't a problem?
Worth asking someone who knows what they are on about. That was the first link I found and says "The replacement rod bearings used are the new updated design from 2011 onwards" so you might be OK.
Thanks. I phoned Evolve who said that even the later bearings do wear, but just not quite so badly and they still recommend getting them done. The car is booked in for the work (as well as engine mounts - might as well whilst they can get to them easily) for April 12th.

RicksAlfas

13,425 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Sounds good. You'll be happier knowing they are done.

When do you collect the car?

Trustmeimadoctor

12,699 posts

156 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Could just follow m539's video on his e92 m3 with spun bearings

https://youtu.be/IBfidOHlE7E

He hasn't really got into it yet tho

TyrannosauRoss Lex

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35,152 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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RicksAlfas said:
Sounds good. You'll be happier knowing they are done.

When do you collect the car?
I've collected it, hence the photos hehe