I bought an SV - BIG Build thread
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naturals said:
I've been really enjoying the videos and thread right from the outset.
Only thing I would improve about the previous is maybe more videos of the truck rather than stills (appreciate this isn't always easy).
Also, it'd be good to maybe do a 2min section of each video on the plans you have for travelling once the build is complete. You mentioned in the video Morocco. Would love to know the practicalities of getting a truck like this down to Africa (routes, transport options, timeframes, constraints, costs, etc).
Thanks, and thanks for the support.Only thing I would improve about the previous is maybe more videos of the truck rather than stills (appreciate this isn't always easy).
Also, it'd be good to maybe do a 2min section of each video on the plans you have for travelling once the build is complete. You mentioned in the video Morocco. Would love to know the practicalities of getting a truck like this down to Africa (routes, transport options, timeframes, constraints, costs, etc).
I would love to have more videos, really. Lots of close ups, but the truck is 250 miles away and with Covid I've been to see it ONCE and that was more time talking planning the box than looking around the truck. So I'm stuck relying on the box builder to take the footage.
Indeed the plans for routes and stuff will be covered in more depth after the build. Right now, other than broad brush, I've not considered it. Although maybe I will do something on that in the near future see if it's of interest to others.
CarPrintGuy said:
15 mpg is so impressive considering the weight!
The HX runs in 2wd via a transfer box and a haldex type clutch system to engage 4wd or AWD to be precise. With the big 330PS engine, autobox and cruise control, you don't need to push them hard. Plus, they are built to take 18t and Rosie I reckon will be around 12 ton max (probably just over 11) hence being relatively frugal. Big test will be the wind resistance 
Projectblue51 said:
TLDR - Hit the B cone with the o/s corner during the reversing exercise.
Long version - didn't set up on entry correctly. Wasn't far enough over to the left between the cones. There is a drain cover that runs parallel to the yellow line at this particular centre. My brain just went 'that's handy for lining up' and at no point did it say 'the Instructor said DON'T BE LULLED by the drain cover. Stay to the left.'
Thus as I put full left lock on, I didn't actually achieve full left lock, I was watching for the cone coming in to view and it didn't - well, until it fell into view with a clatter cos I had knocked it over.
If I'm honest with myself, I wasn't ready. I needed a bit more time to get my head round it all. I have a new found respect for truck drivers. It's a bloody hard thing to do. Also explains why they are all miserable b
ds because it's stupid out there. 14m and 18 tons of truck WITH L PLATES and people squeeze past you or cyclists do stupid stuff. Madness.
How long is the machine you did your test in? Did my D a couple of years ago in a Bova Futura (the ones with the lights from a McLaren F1) and a nose that sticks out! Start my C rigid lessons next month, the upshot is that it's in a 6x2 Actros that drives very similarly to a tri-axle coach (though without the third steering axle)Long version - didn't set up on entry correctly. Wasn't far enough over to the left between the cones. There is a drain cover that runs parallel to the yellow line at this particular centre. My brain just went 'that's handy for lining up' and at no point did it say 'the Instructor said DON'T BE LULLED by the drain cover. Stay to the left.'
Thus as I put full left lock on, I didn't actually achieve full left lock, I was watching for the cone coming in to view and it didn't - well, until it fell into view with a clatter cos I had knocked it over.
If I'm honest with myself, I wasn't ready. I needed a bit more time to get my head round it all. I have a new found respect for truck drivers. It's a bloody hard thing to do. Also explains why they are all miserable b
ds because it's stupid out there. 14m and 18 tons of truck WITH L PLATES and people squeeze past you or cyclists do stupid stuff. Madness. Projectblue51 said:
Blimey, that sounds big
It was a 4x4 Scania 18.230 and I want to say 12m? It was looooong. Rosie is about as long in total (7.6m) as that truck is front to rear axle. The overhang is ridiculous
You get used to it. We have a few of the ultra-long coaches with a bunk compartment between the front door and front axle, over 2 metres from the bumper to the arch. Can do 3-point turns over pavements and grass verges well as you've gone way over before the wheels touch. Herself thought I was going to hit the wall doing a ridiculous 3-point turn at 11 pm (using a 14.2-metre coach to go get a Chinese It was a 4x4 Scania 18.230 and I want to say 12m? It was looooong. Rosie is about as long in total (7.6m) as that truck is front to rear axle. The overhang is ridiculous
)I don't think I'll have an issue with the driving part of the test, it's the theory and CPC side of things as the trucks and buses are completely different. I want to eventually convert a coach to a camper/movable home, and I need the C as hilariously it stops being a bus when you take the seats out, and so your D license won't cover you...
blueST said:
I watch YoutTube all the time, and subscribe to your channel, but its mostly on the app on my smart telly. To hit "like" on that, you have to press down, left twice, click, then right twice, then click. This takes an age with the clunky processor in my TV, so I never do.
I too usually watch on a smart TV. I have just tried and cannot see how to hit “like”. I definitely won’t be starting.One for you fabricators out there. I have small challenge in getting to mount the spares. The OEM solution is crap. If you are in the UK you are dropping onto a live carriage way. Plus you can only carry one, and it’s common to carry two. Some argue carrying one full spare plus a tyre, but for convenience it’s usually two.
So two wheels and tyres are around 400kg plus the frame plus the stress generated by off road jiggly. Call it 1000kg.
And it has to mount off the chassis, not off the box. It can’t mount to both as the box moves independently of the chassis so the box doesn’t get torn in half by chassis flex.
One option is hydraulics, like repurposing a secondhand tail lift. But the angle of the box causes an issue (apparently). Custom built new is out of my price bracket.
I like this idea on a friends truck which is simple and cost effective. Uses a small electric winch to lift the 200kg spares up/down on the frame.
Thoughts?
So two wheels and tyres are around 400kg plus the frame plus the stress generated by off road jiggly. Call it 1000kg.
And it has to mount off the chassis, not off the box. It can’t mount to both as the box moves independently of the chassis so the box doesn’t get torn in half by chassis flex.
One option is hydraulics, like repurposing a secondhand tail lift. But the angle of the box causes an issue (apparently). Custom built new is out of my price bracket.
I like this idea on a friends truck which is simple and cost effective. Uses a small electric winch to lift the 200kg spares up/down on the frame.
Thoughts?
Quite a few motorbike lifts (so designed for 200kg or so) use a screw thread that you turn with an electric drill. Slow but compact, however they're usually only a meter or so, not sure who far you want to lift.
Are you fitting a winch? If so presumably only on the front? The Landrover 101's used have have a system where you could run the winch cable under the vehicle to use it form the front or rear, so might be another way of moving a rear frame.
Are you fitting a winch? If so presumably only on the front? The Landrover 101's used have have a system where you could run the winch cable under the vehicle to use it form the front or rear, so might be another way of moving a rear frame.
Edited by RizzoTheRat on Saturday 17th October 13:23
Good idea about the screw threads.
The frames or the plinths the wheels sit on don't neccesarily have to lift, but it is easier. You can see in that photo the small electric winch which they will use to lift each wheel up with. The wheel then 'sits' in the tray allowing you to bolt it onto the frame.
I am fitting a winch, and originally was going to install it on the rear for this very purpose. But, that location isn't conducive, and it's also a recovery winch so it's a whopping 25,000lb. Which means all of the associated frame etc has to made up to take that.
And to that the rear NATO tow hitch is a handy thing to have and I'd love a NATO trailer in the end maybe. Like this bad boy set up that belongs to one of our members, it means the winch is probably going on the front, yes.
The frames or the plinths the wheels sit on don't neccesarily have to lift, but it is easier. You can see in that photo the small electric winch which they will use to lift each wheel up with. The wheel then 'sits' in the tray allowing you to bolt it onto the frame.
I am fitting a winch, and originally was going to install it on the rear for this very purpose. But, that location isn't conducive, and it's also a recovery winch so it's a whopping 25,000lb. Which means all of the associated frame etc has to made up to take that.
And to that the rear NATO tow hitch is a handy thing to have and I'd love a NATO trailer in the end maybe. Like this bad boy set up that belongs to one of our members, it means the winch is probably going on the front, yes.
200kg is not a huge amount, a lot of small winches will easily do that, is there anywhere on the side of the chassis you can mount the tyres? The reason i ask is a simple tripod frame with an electric winch powered from an extension cable could easily be used to lift the tyres and be moved around Rosie to position the wheels, lob me an email and i'll see if i can explain better if it's not clear!!!
Edited to add something like this.
https://www.ropemarine.com/safety-tripod-fitted-wi...
Edited to add something like this.
https://www.ropemarine.com/safety-tripod-fitted-wi...
Edited by Bobberoo99 on Sunday 18th October 22:25
@Bob - yeah that winch is a beast. I'm not 100% sure it won't pull the front of the truck off 
@ t'other Bob - thanks, I get it and we (another person with the same truck type in build) have already discussed this as an option. It was originally dismissed but we are coming back to it. Well I am. Because swinging a big wheel around on my own won't be fun, and if it falls over on me....
Right now the issue is the engineering to get around the rear over hang.
@ t'other Bob - thanks, I get it and we (another person with the same truck type in build) have already discussed this as an option. It was originally dismissed but we are coming back to it. Well I am. Because swinging a big wheel around on my own won't be fun, and if it falls over on me....
Right now the issue is the engineering to get around the rear over hang.
I think the idea of using the winch is a great one.
Get a frame made up with a couple of pulleys at the top so you can hook your winch cable over the pulley, strop through the tyre, then lift it down.
Your friend's rack (fnar fnar) would be a great start.
P.s. I've enjoyed the videos so far, but I would definitely say more truck pictures on the videos, even if it's just a montage of the same few rotating every minute. Just so you can pore over the images while listening to your commentary.
Get a frame made up with a couple of pulleys at the top so you can hook your winch cable over the pulley, strop through the tyre, then lift it down.
Your friend's rack (fnar fnar) would be a great start.
P.s. I've enjoyed the videos so far, but I would definitely say more truck pictures on the videos, even if it's just a montage of the same few rotating every minute. Just so you can pore over the images while listening to your commentary.
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