Fisher Fury, impuse buy!

Fisher Fury, impuse buy!

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Bright Halo

3,041 posts

237 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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The video reminded me of when I had mk1 Strada 105tc with the same 1.6 twin cam.
I had a Ansa exhaust with K&N pancake filter and it made a very similar sound. It always felt that it could make a lot more power and with you going throttle bodies and decent manifolds I’m sure it will.
Great build.

Marquezs Stabilisers

1,292 posts

63 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Really enjoying this thread, thank you!

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Bright Halo said:
The video reminded me of when I had mk1 Strada 105tc with the same 1.6 twin cam.
I had a Ansa exhaust with K&N pancake filter and it made a very similar sound. It always felt that it could make a lot more power and with you going throttle bodies and decent manifolds I’m sure it will.
Great build.
I don't know why it feels so slow to me banghead maybe it's because the last few cars have been turbo. But it feels slower than the mk2 fiesta zetec I built. Which was 160bhp and 750 ish KG. Think I should have been more aggressive on the final drive. Tempted to get a 4.88 ot 5.12 fd. Especially if it will rev out.

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Marquezs Stabilisers said:
Really enjoying this thread, thank you!
Glad you're enjoying it.


Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Bloody forgot to wire the coolant temp gauge sensor in banghead I will revise at so it's looks less of an after thought or might see if the omex can supply the the gauge so I don't need 2 on the engine.

The fan doesn't seem to kick in anymore which is strange as there's a temp switch on the rad. But perhaps the old ecu was driving it ? Will do some More digging. The omex can do it so it no biggie if that's the case.

I also need to fit some sort of bleed valve on the top hose or top of the rad. I thought I'd get away with it as the expansion bottle is higher than the rad. And I'm sure I could persevere with bleeding the system. But would be super easy if I can just bleed the top of the rad end.

I guess that's why the hoses where run so high.



The worst job. And not the best wrap I've ever done but pretty functional I think.



Sorry doing jobs that aren't really something I can take photos of . I'll trya harder biglaugh

The big news is it runs it runs pretty good all things considered. Ran some errands for the Mrs tonight and its great. There's a few flat spots and accel fueling bits that need ironing out. Just weighing up if I try and road tune it so I can drive it shake it down more or just get it on the dyno. And send it!

I need to get some one to video me driving at night as it spits pretty mega flames on the overrun biglaugh



Nice atmospheric photo before I Went out. Little thing looks Mega even if I look like an absolute prat getting in and out of it.

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Just to recap we've gone from this mess!



To this and I'm quite pleased with it! Even if it's probably no faster


Retro_Jim

389 posts

53 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I've just read through the whole journey, it's an interesting read I like the ITB's but boost would be cool!

Regbuser

3,753 posts

37 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Or a supercharger, as postulated on Guy Crofts website / forum !

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I'm pretty sure, I could adapt a lotus turbo dhla manifold or make a turbo inlet for the itbs. For the best of both worlds.

But I'm resolutely sticking to screaming NA for now as I think it suits the car the best. And I think it will be very very 'spikey' to drive if turbo'ed. It's already quiet tail happy.

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I know i know ther played out on the fury. but i think these will be fare better suited! they need a refurb. so thinking anthricite would really work.

there 14's as well so should fill the arches abit more than 13's




what do you guys think ?

EmBe

7,555 posts

271 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Can't really go wrong with Minilites.

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Little update,

Sorted the garage out last night and worked through a few niggles.

Sill a big pile of old parts I need to decide what Todo with.


I ran a hoes from the catch can to the under side of the car as. Id forgotten about that.



Only Few jobs on the board !

I worked out last night the stumble was me being a tit. After all the startup trouble I reloaded the base map. And for got to calibrate the TPS banghead so now with the TPS calibrated it runs perfectly with out load. But didn't have time to test it.
With our the TPS calibrated the ecu was trying to make the engine idle till about 10% throttle. And wasn't getting above 80% on the tables.



The 208 is in the body shop having some bits tidied up. Which means SWMBO needed my van today! So had a very frosty run to the office this morning!

Put the side windows in its impressively good with the roof on biglaugh if I could get in and out of it with out being a contortionist. You could daily it! biglaugh

The cold start fueling is off that's for sure. I couldn't go above about 1/3 throttle for about a mile. biglaugh bit otherwise runs great. And it was ridiculously cold this morning.

When I got to work I was messing with the laptop with it running as id Been logging in the way to work. And it boiled over in the expansion cap.

No biggie. Not over heating. Also I've only got water in it at the moment as I want to make sure there's no issue. That will spray coolant every where.

Anyway as I'm in the office today. I got some coolant and bleed it properly! With some revs which I can't do at home with the neighbors. And it's all sorted now. Was able to crack the top hose and bleed the rad. Then let it get to temp.

Also fixed the fan. It has come unplugged 👌so not wlshe happily regulates temp with the fan going on and off.

It's slowly getting to a point where it's running really nicely.

I do still have the top end tapping when coming to a stop ? I've ordered some new smaller shims to get the valve clearances in factory specs to see if it's that.



Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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quite the update banghead

works Christmas do on Friday night as my business partner is on holiday from the 15th. so left work abit early, which was very lucky!

the fury was running better than ever. actually feeling really nice, all the gauges behaving. super nice to drive. as i got to the dreaded motorway sliproad! yep the same one. i gave it a boot full. before the loop. and at about 6k rpm and al mighty bang ! and the engine immediately cuts out.

turns out my spot welds on the trigger wheel were not up to the job. banghead i think I'm going to have to have my buddy tig weld it on his big machine. and have the assembly balanced.



the mission to get her recovered and still make my own Christmas party was on. the traffic wombles arrived in minutes and made me cost down the ramp to the bottom where there was a nice bit of space. there no tow point! so no chance of a flat tow. not without damaging the body.

none of this was helped by 3 moblies network being down. so i had zero signal or cout make a phone call if i forced my phone to a 3g network but no one could call me.

luckily i caught a friend of mine before he left the office. and was able to send his driver out.





i was only stuck on the motorway for 40mins which is pretty decent considering i dont have any breakdown cover, and during rush hour on a friday!

i was only 30mins late to my works do and to befair that was my mrs doing!




piss all penetration. im still learning g to weld , and i didn't fathom just how solid the pully is its a casting but it is rock solid. clearly my welder isn't getting into it. this isn't helped by the trigger wheel being mild steel.

feeling very humbled banghead lucky it wasn't more serious theres one light scuff on the sill cover in the wheel arch. new one on order as i couldn't find mine its not on the side of the road as i when back on Saturday Moring.

in nor positive news . i picked up the minilites ! i love them, just cant decide on a colour.





these also clear the frame on full lock,

here's what the old ones do

which is compounded when the suspension is compressed. enough to lock the inside front when coming off the drive. so ive not been very keen to let it slide incase i bind up the front wheel. although it pretty tail happy with the lsd in

i did some mock ups of colours. just to get a feel. i was thinking anthracite. however im now favoring silver or black. they need a refurb unfortunately the pretty flaky





what do you guys think ?



todays been abit slow at home with SWMBO rage tidying so decided to make myself scares. quite nice not having lots to-do able to slow down abit as i dont have a trigger wheel not a lot i can do.

tappet shims came on Saturday, so decided to tackle that. made a few errors when it was all apart i measured the shims but i only measured on e of each i wrongly assumed they would be the same for each inlet and each exhaust valve. so as it was 0.1 to tight on the inlet and 0.2 to tight on the exhausts. i ordered a set of 3.8 shims as this should have put me in the ball park, and it has. but i can do better!



Maths !


the shims were all over the place.



1x 3.85
3x 3.97
1x 4.0
3x 4.05

im not sure if this is normal for twincams or not. but ive ordered the ones i need to get the clearances perfect. hopefully this will solve the intermittent top end noise.

im still really positive though this is the exact kinda teething issue i need ironed out before the dyno on the 12th.

ajprice

27,810 posts

198 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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I think the grey wheels would go well with the blue.

Mr Tidy

22,734 posts

129 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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I'd stick with silver for the wheels given that they are Minilites which were always silver. Unless you really like the gold look.

It's hard to see what they are in black!

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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well i dropped the wheels off this morning! going to make you all wait!

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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No parts yet but thought I'd get preemptive and make a tool to static balance the crank pulley. It's not perfect but I'm able to see that the pulley on its own isn't perfectly balanced even though it's been drilled but the factory.

I did ring about 5 engine/ engineering places but only one could do it. And they can't touch it for 3 weeks.



Firstly I needed som free running bearings. So robbed them out of my daughter's skateboard.



I've machined a delrin spacer to hold the pulley and bearings. It's pretty good. I think my poor old lathe has a bit of run out it is from the 1940s



Should be a video.



The factory balancing holes however it always comes to rest with these at the bottom so there must be a tolerance. It being a little out.



Fingers crossed I get the trigger wheel tomorrow. And can get it it fitted up check it all still works then have my buddy weld it fully. Solid.


Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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Trigger wheel V2 is on and it runs spot on made a few tweaks I've bolted it this time. And static balanced it on my special tool. The full assembly is now better balanceed than the pulley was on its own.



I machined a Chanel into it this time to locate it on the pulley and give it a more solid interface. Wish I'd thought of that last time as it was perfectly aligned this time didn't need all trimming in the lathe after.



For anyone that was worried I put the bearings back in my daughter's skateboard wheel. Nobody needs to know biglaugh




Its running great probably did 10 or so miles in it tonight. No issues. Still blown away by how good the roof it zero flapping or buffeting even at naughty speeds.

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,229 posts

156 months

Monday 11th December 2023
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not a lot been happening,  

did some fettling yesterday as were going to the dyno tomorrow.  thought i'd check the balance and give everything, a once over.  

found that no1 was down on flow/vacuum.  only a bit but that might explain why its popped through the inlet a couple of times the other day.  I spent way too long trying to find the leak.  Neither carb cleaner or spraying water on everything would highlight the leak.  so decide to pull it all apart.  refit everything.  

 





didn't take as long as i thought to get to this point.  I made a new manifold gasket.  with a bit more meat around the outside.  as it's quite thin in places.  

I was relying on the o rings in the itb bodies to seal with the manifold so decided to make gaskets for there as well.  



everything balanced up perfectly this time.  



it still makes the valve train noise when warmed up. but only after some revs or you drive it. doesn't seem to be getting any worse and there's no sparkles in the oil in the top end.  but other than that it seems spot on.  so i'm just going to see what happens 

Dr G

15,242 posts

244 months

Monday 11th December 2023
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Excellent progress!

Could the noise relate to oil weight or temperature, perhaps?