Jaguar F-Pace Non Runner

Jaguar F-Pace Non Runner

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Chris-yihaj

2 posts

17 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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tvrfan007 said:
I would expect the difference will be the engine mounts and their interface with the block and or the adaptor plate for the transverse box, not so much the ancillaries that bolt on. The nature of mass production dictates that you change as little as possible and be as flexible as possible.

Take your catalogue of pictures from strip down, understand how the engine mounts bolt onto the block and where. You might have all the parts on your old engine, but are the holes present, drilled and tapped out in the new block? The rest I would imagine is resolvable as long as the lump slots in and hangs.
The transverse block is a different casting and you can’t use it in an inline installation. There’s no RH engine mount bosses, sump mounting is completely different and the turbo oil feed is in a different location.

You’ll need a block from a XE, XF, F-Pace, Velar, and it needs to be the single turbo version as there’s 2 cast turbo oil drain points in the twin turbo block.

Escy

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3,958 posts

151 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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stevemcs said:
I,m pretty sure you will be ok. If you need any other numbers let us know.
Thank you Steve, I've sent you an email (they often end up in spam!)

tvrfan007

413 posts

176 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Chris-yihaj said:
The transverse block is a different casting and you can’t use it in an inline installation. There’s no RH engine mount bosses, sump mounting is completely different and the turbo oil feed is in a different location.

You’ll need a block from a XE, XF, F-Pace, Velar, and it needs to be the single turbo version as there’s 2 cast turbo oil drain points in the twin turbo block.
Excellent new account and stealth first post from an anonymous JLR employee...

Jhonno

5,827 posts

143 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Chris-yihaj said:
The transverse block is a different casting and you can’t use it in an inline installation. There’s no RH engine mount bosses, sump mounting is completely different and the turbo oil feed is in a different location.

You’ll need a block from a XE, XF, F-Pace, Velar, and it needs to be the single turbo version as there’s 2 cast turbo oil drain points in the twin turbo block.
Oh!

mat205125

17,790 posts

215 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Jhonno said:
Chris-yihaj said:
The transverse block is a different casting and you can’t use it in an inline installation. There’s no RH engine mount bosses, sump mounting is completely different and the turbo oil feed is in a different location.

You’ll need a block from a XE, XF, F-Pace, Velar, and it needs to be the single turbo version as there’s 2 cast turbo oil drain points in the twin turbo block.
Oh!
How long before we turn this into an LS swap project thread????

Escy

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3,958 posts

151 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Chris-yihaj said:
The transverse block is a different casting and you can’t use it in an inline installation. There’s no RH engine mount bosses, sump mounting is completely different and the turbo oil feed is in a different location.

You’ll need a block from a XE, XF, F-Pace, Velar, and it needs to be the single turbo version as there’s 2 cast turbo oil drain points in the twin turbo block.
I missed this post as it was made whilst I was replying to another one. Your answer sounds pretty comprehensive. I got the seller to send me some close photos which confirms what you said.

Just heard back from SWP, my crank is too damaged.

Back to the drawing board now.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Can you not just put it back together and set fire to it? Just claim the insurance?! :-)

Jhonno

5,827 posts

143 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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JESTER_ST1 said:
Can you not just put it back together and set fire to it? Just claim the insurance?! :-)
  • and delete this thread laugh

Chimp007_uk

2 posts

17 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Escy said:
I missed this post as it was made whilst I was replying to another one. Your answer sounds pretty comprehensive. I got the seller to send me some close photos which confirms what you said.

Just heard back from SWP, my crank is too damaged.

Back to the drawing board now.
Bummer about the crank, but glad you’re ok on the secondhand engine. There’s quite a few companies offering a recon engine replacement with warranty. Put your engine back together and chop it in.

Megaflow

9,489 posts

227 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Escy said:
Chris-yihaj said:
The transverse block is a different casting and you can’t use it in an inline installation. There’s no RH engine mount bosses, sump mounting is completely different and the turbo oil feed is in a different location.

You’ll need a block from a XE, XF, F-Pace, Velar, and it needs to be the single turbo version as there’s 2 cast turbo oil drain points in the twin turbo block.
I missed this post as it was made whilst I was replying to another one. Your answer sounds pretty comprehensive. I got the seller to send me some close photos which confirms what you said.

Just heard back from SWP, my crank is too damaged.

Back to the drawing board now.
Oh bum, on both counts.

Gtom

1,620 posts

134 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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I’m sure you are scanning eBay all the time but I spotted this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265656445280?mkcid=16&a...

Pflanzgarten

4,082 posts

27 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Don’t forget to scan eBay europe wide either.

Mate had the opportunity to buy an insurance write off (although undeclared-long story) S Class hybrid last year. Engine was scrap from hydrolocking (proper job, block had a hole in it).

Everyone told him the 2.0 engine was unique to the hybrid but he reckoned it was a standard 2.0

Found a guy selling full engines in Germany who shipped one over with all ancillaries for £4K. Needed to swap out a few bits like turbo manifolds but it fitted and fired up no problem.


Escy

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3,958 posts

151 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Gtom said:
I’m sure you are scanning eBay all the time but I spotted this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265656445280?mkcid=16&a...
I had messaged him previously about an exhaust cam. Just asked him about a crank/short engine. he he has no Jag bits.


Pflanzgarten said:
Don’t forget to scan eBay europe wide either.

Mate had the opportunity to buy an insurance write off (although undeclared-long story) S Class hybrid last year. Engine was scrap from hydrolocking (proper job, block had a hole in it).

Everyone told him the 2.0 engine was unique to the hybrid but he reckoned it was a standard 2.0

Found a guy selling full engines in Germany who shipped one over with all ancillaries for £4K. Needed to swap out a few bits like turbo manifolds but it fitted and fired up no problem.
In my experience, cars and parts tend to be much cheaper in the UK than the rest of Europe but I will keep a look out.

LunarOne

5,379 posts

139 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Someone is breaking a 2015 Jaguar XJ-R SVR and has the complete engine for sale. I've driven one of these and it's epic. I can't imagine any car it was installed in not also being epic. No idea how much he wants for it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134035330293

stevemcs

8,719 posts

95 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Escy said:
Thank you Steve, I've sent you an email (they often end up in spam!)
Just realised the email address I use for ph is wrong, I’m getting it changed

Batch 7.5R

139 posts

82 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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Morning mate, finally got round to binge-reading this last night and this morning - another epic one!
I’m a big fan of the F-Pace, had one for a holiday rental last summer and really enjoyed it. It was a 2.0 180 diesel so the same engine I guess? I actually enjoyed it so much I was considering one for my next car. These Ingenium horror stories are scary though!
I was really disappointed to read the last bit as it sounded like you’d found the perfect solution. I have no doubts that you’ll locate a more suitable lump, but would you then weigh the car in or do you still fancy keeping it? Like I say, I really enjoyed the one I had and with a bit more research into which engines are decent I’d have one.

skeeterm5

3,392 posts

190 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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I assume you have already looked at Copart?

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/72388632/clean-title-...

Buy it, use the engine, sell the rest?

ConnectionError

1,843 posts

71 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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skeeterm5 said:
I assume you have already looked at Copart?

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/72388632/clean-title-...

Buy it, use the engine, sell the rest?
Wrong engine

ConnectionError

1,843 posts

71 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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I hope a credible solution comes your way soon.

Have you any further thoughts as thaw the engine is so knackered 200 miles after a rebuild?

Was it run without oil, for example?

Best wishes

skeeterm5

3,392 posts

190 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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ConnectionError said:
Wrong engine
Was showing as an eg smile

A few of the models there that might work though.