A shed of a 1972 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow
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Keep the hydraulic suspension on the Rolls Royce. It's not an easy thing to get rid of and it's going to be easier to keep it than replacing it with the air suspension from a Range Rover.
Problem is that the brakes aren't great, cost a bomb and wheels are a odd fitment so no wheel choice too. Might be easier to swap it all over in the long run as they are all done via the hydraulics.You can't block people yourself but you can ask the mods to block people from your thread though. Hence we haven't heard from bmw535 in a while.
That rolls is in better condition than mine haha. I don't need a spares car as everything is going to be swapped to other car parts for cost reasons.
That rolls is in better condition than mine haha. I don't need a spares car as everything is going to be swapped to other car parts for cost reasons.
Probably due a update here. Will fix images at some point too. This post stands for most of my projects as to why nothing has been done.
Basically, got a new job, 65 hours a week and 7 days a week. Did it for 7 months before it killed me having no social life. Ended up going to the Usa for 3 months converting a house into an office for my step mums business.
It has a new home out of the weather soon though as my mums corvette is being moved to a new garage giving me the space to get it out of the scotish weather to work on while its freezing.
Expect updates in the next month or so! (people who are a fan of oem appearance probably shouldnt view from this point on)
Basically, got a new job, 65 hours a week and 7 days a week. Did it for 7 months before it killed me having no social life. Ended up going to the Usa for 3 months converting a house into an office for my step mums business.
It has a new home out of the weather soon though as my mums corvette is being moved to a new garage giving me the space to get it out of the scotish weather to work on while its freezing.
Expect updates in the next month or so! (people who are a fan of oem appearance probably shouldnt view from this point on)
Returning from the USA on 8th of July so time to start cracking on with it.
First part ordered
This means I can easily tow it about without the rear just bouncing about unattached.
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Looking into the replacement fuel pump as I am not paying £500+ for a pump and bracket as my car has neither.
http://www.flyingspares.com/shop/rolls-royce-bentl...
From what I can gather any electric fuel pump which will do 3-4psi (if I have remembered correctly) will do. These can be got for £50 easily and would just require wiring into the ignition with a little bit of plumbing and bolting directly into the chassis.
First part ordered
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Looking into the replacement fuel pump as I am not paying £500+ for a pump and bracket as my car has neither.
http://www.flyingspares.com/shop/rolls-royce-bentl...
From what I can gather any electric fuel pump which will do 3-4psi (if I have remembered correctly) will do. These can be got for £50 easily and would just require wiring into the ignition with a little bit of plumbing and bolting directly into the chassis.
Huntsman said:
You can buy the pump direct from Burlen Fuel systems for £300 ish.
Remember it may only be 3 or 4 psi but it needs a lot of Flow.
I don’t have the bracket to hold it either which is £140, seems an expensive way to make the car work. Seeing as not much is going to be original I’m not too worried about upsetting purists Remember it may only be 3 or 4 psi but it needs a lot of Flow.
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http://www.rollsroyceforums.com/forums/26-sy-serie...
Seems to suggest even lower psi. Would the psi not be the indicator of fuel flow? From what I thought i knew the higher the pressure the more it flowed.
Have been doing some top secret research into efi but wanting to make sure my engine runs well before I invest in the bits.
Huntsman said:
Slow said:
Ive been listing random bits on ebay and wow is the price for used bits pretty mad. Judging by the prices im going to make my money back and then some just from removing the bits I dont need.
Almost ready to pull the engine and gearbox out, should get it done this week![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
Could you message me a link to your listing?Almost ready to pull the engine and gearbox out, should get it done this week
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fatbutt said:
Slow said:
Ive been listing random bits on ebay and wow is the price for used bits pretty mad. Judging by the prices im going to make my money back and then some just from removing the bits I dont need.
Almost ready to pull the engine and gearbox out, should get it done this week![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
Just remember that you take the engine out by lifting the body off it. Don't try taking it out the 'normal' way. I did it with two engine hoists, one on the front and one on the back. You lift the body leaving the engine on the front sub frame.Almost ready to pull the engine and gearbox out, should get it done this week
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Hmm interesting, Do you think if I removed the front wheels and sat it on the brake discs to lower the subframe I could get away with just lifting the front and resting the rear on some old tyres as the pivot point?
If not I can either drag it out and use the jcb (or sketchy high lift jacks with a telegraph pole between them to hold the rear) but makes getting it in much harder.
If not I can either drag it out and use the jcb (or sketchy high lift jacks with a telegraph pole between them to hold the rear) but makes getting it in much harder.
fatbutt said:
The biggest issue was taking the front suspension springs out as you need a special tool. I made mine...
How do you mean you need a special tool?Does it not just unbolt the strut at the top then it all comes down as 1 piece?
Currently I see 2x strut, the 4 subframe bolts mentioned and disconnect the prop + steering rack to get it down? Obviously theres all the smaller connections for pedals/shifter etc.
fatbutt said:
Slow said:
How do you mean you need a special tool?
Does it not just unbolt the strut at the top then it all comes down as 1 piece?
Currently I see 2x strut, the 4 subframe bolts mentioned and disconnect the prop + steering rack to get it down? Obviously theres all the smaller connections for pedals/shifter etc.
The coils go up into the bodywork so you can't compress the spring using usual methods. There is a RR tool that is basically four threaded rods that go down through the cap on the top and secure to the bottom of the coil. You take up the slack then unbolt the caps. Then unscrew the nuts so the caps slowly release the tension. Its a pain in the arse to be honest. The first time I did one I didn't take up enough slack and the caps came off with a bang. I made my own tool using threaded rod I had in the garage.Does it not just unbolt the strut at the top then it all comes down as 1 piece?
Currently I see 2x strut, the 4 subframe bolts mentioned and disconnect the prop + steering rack to get it down? Obviously theres all the smaller connections for pedals/shifter etc.
When I get home later I'll send you some pics and links to the where I downloaded the workshop manual from (its 2000+ pages).
fatbutt said:
The front subframe is secured by four bolts but the coils are under compression against the bodywork. Its a big tensioned arrangement - don't just unbolt the subframe as the coils won't have anything to hold them back!
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So if I was to put a jack or two holding up the subframe, undo the 4 bolts and slowly lower it down it would take away the compression of the springs off the body? ![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/rwdJDwMV.jpg)
Or resting subframe on axle stands then unbolting to then lift the car off the subframe using the hoist to slowly remove the compression.
Only found 1 link to the compressor and at $225 coming from abroad it seems easier to be a rough arse to get them out.
Huntsman said:
You can hire the tools from RREC and I think Flying Spares too.
Be carefully.
Kelly at https://www.britishtoolworks.com/ is a great help.
I couldnt find it on flyingspares, they only linked the retaining thing for £400 or so and not the compressor. I know its a Rolls Royce but it is just springs and the prices seem madness.Be carefully.
Kelly at https://www.britishtoolworks.com/ is a great help.
https://www.britishtoolworks.com/product-page/fron...
Is the one for 225 from abroad.
Cutting the entire floor out and wide arche. Bit different and should take quite a while, not in a rush and wanted something to be my own.
I have a e65 745i ready to donate front/rear subframes, engine gearbox and basically everything. It’s 2” shorter, 30cm wider at the outside edge of wheels (hence wide arch) and weight is roughly the same so standard arms/suspension should deal with the weight ok.
I had a link to the build on YouTube but mods removed it due to advertising or something. If you were so inclined to follow it a simple rolls Royce e65 search should find it![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
I have a e65 745i ready to donate front/rear subframes, engine gearbox and basically everything. It’s 2” shorter, 30cm wider at the outside edge of wheels (hence wide arch) and weight is roughly the same so standard arms/suspension should deal with the weight ok.
I had a link to the build on YouTube but mods removed it due to advertising or something. If you were so inclined to follow it a simple rolls Royce e65 search should find it
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