Fiesta ST MK7.5 Track car
Discussion
I will be a proper build and cost a few quid and i will not cutting any corners and as you say doing the work my self cuts down on any labour costs .
sleepera6 said:
Blimey this is a devoted build. Looks pricey! I bet it will be an absolute weapon around the track when it’s done. Doing it all yourself too! I am like Mr Bean with a spanner.
Top job!
Top job!
Got the chance to inspect and replace the fuel cam bucket yesterday .
They wear over time and can cause issues with fuel pressure esp on a hybrid car and for £ 20.00 its silly not to inspect change .
New Ford cam bucket
HPFP that the cam bucket sits behind .
Old 3 year 21K mile cam bucket
Old vs new
There was not much were on the old bucket but its a cheep and easy swap and another thing that is now done .
They wear over time and can cause issues with fuel pressure esp on a hybrid car and for £ 20.00 its silly not to inspect change .
New Ford cam bucket
HPFP that the cam bucket sits behind .
Old 3 year 21K mile cam bucket
Old vs new
There was not much were on the old bucket but its a cheep and easy swap and another thing that is now done .
If you are keeping the car to the same power levels as OEM then pads and fluid may be ok .
After talking with a few people who track there Fiesta ST the stock brake set up is fine for road and has good stopping power but it is the heat that is the problem on track .
DS2500 i would not run on track as i see them as a more fast road pad and are out of the depth on track so Endless or Pagid RS29 pads are what people run on the stock brake set up but they are not cheep at £ 300 + .
The other option is a big brake kit and this is what i will be running as with my set up the stock brakes will not cope .
Regards
After talking with a few people who track there Fiesta ST the stock brake set up is fine for road and has good stopping power but it is the heat that is the problem on track .
DS2500 i would not run on track as i see them as a more fast road pad and are out of the depth on track so Endless or Pagid RS29 pads are what people run on the stock brake set up but they are not cheep at £ 300 + .
The other option is a big brake kit and this is what i will be running as with my set up the stock brakes will not cope .
Regards
gashead1105 said:
Thanks Alex. I think Mark used to have a Clio around the time I did!
Mine's a 66 plate and there are no recalls outstanding. I've read elsewhere about Collins and I'm not interested in going that way, or Peron for that matter.
Where do you get your brake upgrades from? I'll stick with standard discs if no reason to change performance wise (back in the Clio days it made a big difference!). I'm very happy with DS2500s, they're standard on the Evora and I used to get a whole season out of them on the Clio, doing up to 10Tds per year. Surprised the Fiesta gets through them so quickly!
Mine's a 66 plate and there are no recalls outstanding. I've read elsewhere about Collins and I'm not interested in going that way, or Peron for that matter.
Where do you get your brake upgrades from? I'll stick with standard discs if no reason to change performance wise (back in the Clio days it made a big difference!). I'm very happy with DS2500s, they're standard on the Evora and I used to get a whole season out of them on the Clio, doing up to 10Tds per year. Surprised the Fiesta gets through them so quickly!
I agree that the Collins CP2 map is very good and i ran this for around 6 months with no issues .
alex98uk said:
Fair enough, I have found the DS2500 to be a good pad. Never had fade or quality issues with them, just interested to shop around a little! The brake pad options used to be quite slim, but it seems a lot more companies are now making them.
My friend in his MX5 will get 4-5 track days out of a single set of pads, makes me jealous. The real killer is torque vectoring, which more expensive or RWD cars don't really have. It's designed to act as an electronic diff, by applying brake to the inside wheel during cornering. So, the wear rate shoots up because the brakes are being utilised even when you're not in the brakes! Only way around this is an aftermarket ABS module from Ford Racing... and that takes some proper set up.
I think i've bought everything from either EBC directly or Demon Tweeks. It's all the same stuff in the end! I have looked at more expensive pads as kaveney recommended, but I think if I were paying £300 for a set of endruance/race pads, i'd just go the whole hog and get a BBK. Also, I have hesitations over using race pads on a car I still use on the road.
In regards to Collins map, they are a well known name. Been around for many a year specialising in fast Fords. I have had their map on my car for a few years now without issue. But, understandable if you want to keep with Mountune... just note I don't think MR230 qualifies for a warranty (assuming you have a tiny bit left on a late '16 plate car).
My friend in his MX5 will get 4-5 track days out of a single set of pads, makes me jealous. The real killer is torque vectoring, which more expensive or RWD cars don't really have. It's designed to act as an electronic diff, by applying brake to the inside wheel during cornering. So, the wear rate shoots up because the brakes are being utilised even when you're not in the brakes! Only way around this is an aftermarket ABS module from Ford Racing... and that takes some proper set up.
I think i've bought everything from either EBC directly or Demon Tweeks. It's all the same stuff in the end! I have looked at more expensive pads as kaveney recommended, but I think if I were paying £300 for a set of endruance/race pads, i'd just go the whole hog and get a BBK. Also, I have hesitations over using race pads on a car I still use on the road.
In regards to Collins map, they are a well known name. Been around for many a year specialising in fast Fords. I have had their map on my car for a few years now without issue. But, understandable if you want to keep with Mountune... just note I don't think MR230 qualifies for a warranty (assuming you have a tiny bit left on a late '16 plate car).
It is a great track but my one go round ended in the below to our last track car .
A forgiving track it is not .
A forgiving track it is not .
alex98uk said:
I'd really love to try combe. It's the closest circuit to me here in Bristol... but funnily enough, it's the only track in the UK that my insurer (A-Plan) won't cover! I guess it's the speed and lack of run off that does it.
Yes 2L i got through and is an easy job .
Kind Regards
Kind Regards
alex98uk said:
How much did you put in? I read somewhere that it should be around 1.7L... but other places (i.e. Ford documentation) it says that measurement is actually taken at about 20mm below the fill port.
For me, I used the latter measurement and it took a full 2L of Syntrans. However, it was noticeably better than whatever they had refilled the box with after putting my diff in.
For me, I used the latter measurement and it took a full 2L of Syntrans. However, it was noticeably better than whatever they had refilled the box with after putting my diff in.
Another part installed yesterday .
With the car on axle stands i got round to removing the front bumper and other bits in order to fit some new parts to the car .
I have then remover the sump from the car and given this a clean and removed the old gasket .
Then i have installed the Pro Alloy baffled sump that should stop any oil starvation on track .
And installed
Then the sump cover back on with new gasket
With the car on axle stands i got round to removing the front bumper and other bits in order to fit some new parts to the car .
I have then remover the sump from the car and given this a clean and removed the old gasket .
Then i have installed the Pro Alloy baffled sump that should stop any oil starvation on track .
And installed
Then the sump cover back on with new gasket
Yesterday i set about changing the thermostat to a Mishimoto racing unit .
As the car will be on track 95 % of the time upgrading the cooling system i feel is a good idea .
The stock Ford thermostat opens at 97c and the Mishimoto unit opens at a lower 71c allowing the coolant to flow through the engine earlier .
Removing the thermostat housing is not that easy as you need to remove the alternator , drive belt and AC compressor .
Removed thermostat housing
New Mishimoto thermostat
New and old unit
And installed with new gaskets
As the car will be on track 95 % of the time upgrading the cooling system i feel is a good idea .
The stock Ford thermostat opens at 97c and the Mishimoto unit opens at a lower 71c allowing the coolant to flow through the engine earlier .
Removing the thermostat housing is not that easy as you need to remove the alternator , drive belt and AC compressor .
Removed thermostat housing
New Mishimoto thermostat
New and old unit
And installed with new gaskets
At the weekend i finished off the final bits to upgrading the cooling system .
With the MTC coolant pipes and Mishimoto racing thermostat all installed it was on to the radiator .
The stock radiator is fine for road use and may be ok on track but like all bits on the car i feel that an upgrade is a good plan .
I went for the Mountune unit as this still fits on the stock mounts and keeps the OEM fan set up .
The Mountune unit is a CSF unit that has a triple-pass flow core and B-Tube technology that gives a 10% reduction in peek temperatures .
Old OEM unit vs the Mountune unit and the Mountune is around an inch thicker than the stock unit .
Then some fresh coolant
And to finish off some Mishimoto liquid chill
With the MTC coolant pipes and Mishimoto racing thermostat all installed it was on to the radiator .
The stock radiator is fine for road use and may be ok on track but like all bits on the car i feel that an upgrade is a good plan .
I went for the Mountune unit as this still fits on the stock mounts and keeps the OEM fan set up .
The Mountune unit is a CSF unit that has a triple-pass flow core and B-Tube technology that gives a 10% reduction in peek temperatures .
Old OEM unit vs the Mountune unit and the Mountune is around an inch thicker than the stock unit .
Then some fresh coolant
And to finish off some Mishimoto liquid chill
Next up i have installed the BC racing coilovers .
The car has been running the Mountune club sport shocks and springs but i want more adjustability in the suspension .
I have got the BC racing BR-RA units that have Pillowball Top Mount and camber adjustment as well as shock stiffness .
Front BC units
Rear BC units
Mountune units removed
Playing around with the camber on the front units i will be looking to run -2 / -3 camber at the front
Front BC units installed
Rear BC units installed
The car has been running the Mountune club sport shocks and springs but i want more adjustability in the suspension .
I have got the BC racing BR-RA units that have Pillowball Top Mount and camber adjustment as well as shock stiffness .
Front BC units
Rear BC units
Mountune units removed
Playing around with the camber on the front units i will be looking to run -2 / -3 camber at the front
Front BC units installed
Rear BC units installed
As i will be running the stock OEM Ford Fiesta ST wheels i need to run spacers on the front for clearance .
I will need 20mm front spacers and have got some Eibach pro 20mm spacers .
And test fitted with out the brake disc just to see how it will all fit together .
Next will be to fit the AP racing big brake kit to the front .
I will need 20mm front spacers and have got some Eibach pro 20mm spacers .
And test fitted with out the brake disc just to see how it will all fit together .
Next will be to fit the AP racing big brake kit to the front .
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