I’ve just bought the cheapest 911 in the UK!
Discussion
jimbobs said:
TIPEC is a great club and no-one will look down on you whatever you drive. At my local meets you will often see a guy with a pristine GR3RS happily chatting to someone with a £3k Boxster.
I’m not sure that the same happens at the PCGB meets...
Thank you. Might check out the one in Hampshire I’m not sure that the same happens at the PCGB meets...
sillysally1 said:
Costs that I’ve already incurred (and I think I’ve mentioned already in one of the videos)
Collection of car from buyer - £260
Tyre (Pirelli P Zero from Black Circles) - £142
Tracking - £42
Internal cubby hinge fix kit - £30 from eBay with instructions
Front reflector - £30 from eBay (new)
Fan belt - £16
Engine hood strut - £30
Air conditioning pipe replacement - £310
Air conditioning re-gas - £60
Front number plate backing - £10 second hand from eBay
Next video will be about how it is to use every day and the quirks about this car in particular.
Been keeping an eye on others for sale and they are still cheap which is good because more people should be able to enjoy them.
Happy to answer any questions
Missed the £15 for the door fixCollection of car from buyer - £260
Tyre (Pirelli P Zero from Black Circles) - £142
Tracking - £42
Internal cubby hinge fix kit - £30 from eBay with instructions
Front reflector - £30 from eBay (new)
Fan belt - £16
Engine hood strut - £30
Air conditioning pipe replacement - £310
Air conditioning re-gas - £60
Front number plate backing - £10 second hand from eBay
Next video will be about how it is to use every day and the quirks about this car in particular.
Been keeping an eye on others for sale and they are still cheap which is good because more people should be able to enjoy them.
Happy to answer any questions
ferrisbueller said:
So what's the total now? £7500-ish?
How are the brakes?!
The brakes are spongy!How are the brakes?!
About the total...should I divide it up between wear and tear and “normal spend” and then the “Porsche premium” or just add it up? I want it to be a real comparison between this and, say, an average sporty hatch back like a Golf GTI
SnowStar said:
The way to do this, if you don’t have the time to produce videos as you go, is to make at least a half dozen to release at the rate of at least one a week, preferably two. Lots of pictures of the work being done in threads about it, and videos thereof on your channel.
That is, if you want to grow your channel.
That’s what I was thinking, have them ready for editing and release as they are done rather than have the pressure of recording them at a rate as well. That is, if you want to grow your channel.
I’m not precious about being a YouTube success or anything but hoping it’s useful info and might (accidentally at this rate) end up being entertaining!
skinny said:
Brakes are quite sensitive to a good bleed. I had to do mine a few times to get a good pedal, using a pressure bleeder on the reservoir plus pumping the pedal together with cycling the ABS pump.
I have heard of some peeps getting away without cycling the ABS (You need a £300 durametric tool) and just locking up the brakes a few times to activate the ABS but i can't say for sure how effective that is - probably ok if you haven't introduced air into the system
I still want to bleed the brakes just to get rid of the pedal travel. Brakes work and the ABS kicked in when the wheels locked but I don’t like them as they are. Going to change out the bleed nipples with stainless steel ones tooI have heard of some peeps getting away without cycling the ABS (You need a £300 durametric tool) and just locking up the brakes a few times to activate the ABS but i can't say for sure how effective that is - probably ok if you haven't introduced air into the system
Lord Marylebone said:
Good thread.
I owned a 993 for about 9 years and didn’t spend much on it at all.
I just drove it, used it, street parked it, enjoyed it, and sold it.
That sort of confession is bound to cause severe chest pains in nerdy Porsche owning types.
Sold it a few months ago and trousered £25k in profit.
Not only can 911 ownership be done on a budget, but it can even make you money
Whoa, amazing! I owned a 993 for about 9 years and didn’t spend much on it at all.
I just drove it, used it, street parked it, enjoyed it, and sold it.
That sort of confession is bound to cause severe chest pains in nerdy Porsche owning types.
Sold it a few months ago and trousered £25k in profit.
Not only can 911 ownership be done on a budget, but it can even make you money
Edited by Lord Marylebone on Monday 10th June 00:53
I’m pretty sure I won’t be making a profit from mine (certainly not at that mileage and condition...but I’m happy to accept £20,000 if anyone is offering
)Mine is used every day for work and shopping trips and is parked outside under a tree :|
Julian Thompson said:
Underneath, approximately in line with under the door handle there is a join block on the 986/96 - it acts as a crud trap. You’ll be lucky for those pipes to be ok. Changing the pipes isn’t too bad but does require inner arches out and is a lot easier on a ramp.
I will hazard a guess (and please understand I am not in any way meaning to be negative) but at the point you begin to try and loosen bleed nipples, remove plastic under arch trims and inspect and replace pipes you’ll have a difficult time in deciding where to stop. The quality of the fasteners - and the design - on these cars leaves them open to corrosion and when I restored my own example I had to go for an “all in” approach. It will be interesting to see if you are able to limit the spend and keep to the “cheapest” ethos as the job unfolds. I wish you best of luck that it’s not the aforementioned Miss Price...
Had a look underneath (will video it when it’s on a lift next) and it’s had new front to back brake pipes and the ends for the back. The fronts look a bit rough so will probably need attention soonI will hazard a guess (and please understand I am not in any way meaning to be negative) but at the point you begin to try and loosen bleed nipples, remove plastic under arch trims and inspect and replace pipes you’ll have a difficult time in deciding where to stop. The quality of the fasteners - and the design - on these cars leaves them open to corrosion and when I restored my own example I had to go for an “all in” approach. It will be interesting to see if you are able to limit the spend and keep to the “cheapest” ethos as the job unfolds. I wish you best of luck that it’s not the aforementioned Miss Price...
Edited by Julian Thompson on Sunday 9th June 20:28
Ok, here’s a question for you...those of you who drive your 911s regularly, how often do you red line them in 1st and 2nd? Do you ever consider things like “I shouldn’t be doing this on a car this old/with this much mileage”?
My view is “that’s what they’re made for and that’s why we want them”
Remember this is still the only Porsche I’ve ever driven.
(Posting this on 911uk as well)
My view is “that’s what they’re made for and that’s why we want them”
Remember this is still the only Porsche I’ve ever driven.
(Posting this on 911uk as well)
andymin said:
Had a 98 with 70 odd K non sunroof one of these for a while, only cost was servicing, couple of front tyres and a door lock as there was an alarm/sensor fault.
Redlined all the time, made sure it was warmed up first though, also never lugged it.
Great cars, in some ways better than all the other newer and older (aircooled) ones I've owned
Snap! Redlined all the time, made sure it was warmed up first though, also never lugged it.
Great cars, in some ways better than all the other newer and older (aircooled) ones I've owned
. I think you’ve still got the orange indicators on there...I wonder if nostalgia and the quest for originality will make people go back to original on the lights with the orange indicators or will it be a step too far?I’ve certainly been hearing positive things from former owners about the early 996s but they’re still so cheap...I love that, everyone go buy one!
ATM said:
Not sure if I've mentioned this already so forgive me because I tell anyone who will listen. The big fear for me is gearbox. So nice and gentle with the gear changes. It takes a lot longer for the box to warm up I'd guess. It feels a lot more notchy first thing. So revs up for me and less shifting. If I can stay in 2nd I will to prevent shifting to 3rd and then back to 2nd again. And I try to be firm on the brakes too. You need to keep them clean. Gently braking is not good for them.
Yes, it’s definitely quite notchy into second when cold
Huntsman said:
This sub £10k 996 adventure seems to make a lot of sense (in my head). I'm fed up with being sensible.
In reality there is little risk, because even if the IMS dies or score a block or crack a cylinder, which seems about the worst that can happen, if you decide you don't want to fork out to fix it, you just ebay it off and get most of your money back.
The alternative is a sub £10k Mondeo/A4/Passat/some other boring trash constantly inflicting DMF and DPF attacks on your wallet.
Amen to that! I’ve just driven to Cardiff and started to worry when I was in traffic as the temperature needle headed to the right of the zero...but luckily we started moving again quite quickly, phew!In reality there is little risk, because even if the IMS dies or score a block or crack a cylinder, which seems about the worst that can happen, if you decide you don't want to fork out to fix it, you just ebay it off and get most of your money back.
The alternative is a sub £10k Mondeo/A4/Passat/some other boring trash constantly inflicting DMF and DPF attacks on your wallet.
Magnum 475 said:
sillysally1 said:
Amen to that! I’ve just driven to Cardiff and started to worry when I was in traffic as the temperature needle headed to the right of the zero...but luckily we started moving again quite quickly, phew!
Does the 996 have a 'direct' temp gauge though? If so, you'll see it rise in this situation, then drop when the fans kick in (if they work).Later cars have a 'buffered' temp gauge - computer controlled, that will sit happily on 80 degrees without moving while the fans come on and off and the true temperature is rising / falling. This type of gauge only moves from 80 if you have a real problem.
selym said:
ATM said:
As above
Just man up, stop stressing and drive the thing.
Enjoy
I'd buy into this normally but having experienced overheating anxiety on more than one occasion, it gets stuck in your head! Just man up, stop stressing and drive the thing.
Enjoy
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