2001 Boxster S
Discussion
Fitted the 987 Cayman seats. Total transformation to the driving position. I'm a lot lower, I have much more support around my back and my legs are now touching the base rather than having my knees in the air.
Wow
Wow
Wow
Best thing I have ever done to a car.
It now feels like a sports car.
It didn't before.
Wow
Wow
Wow
Best thing I have ever done to a car.
It now feels like a sports car.
It didn't before.
I thought I'd take the opportunity of good weather to give my humps a little bit of driving time yesterday before I decide its hard top time. I'm not sure if they make any difference to the wind buffeting or they are purely for show. We do hope Porsche put some design time into them. My car doesn't have the standard wind deflector so maybe I need one of those.
The driving position is much much better with the 997 seats. I like these so much I bought some for my 996 too. I still need to work out the wiring for the rake adjustment so for now they are stuck at the same angle and can not be adjusted. Right now the rake is maybe a bit too far back and I am almost too far from the steering wheel. I cant decide if I should try to rake the seat forward or try a test fit of my Momo wheel from the 996. The leg room is still much tighter in the boxster especially since the biting point of the clutch is very high in the boxster compared to the 996. So if I rake the seat forward I will just eat up a bit of leg room.
When I drive the 996 back to back with the boxster I notice the differences. I think the most annoying thing right now is the gear change. The 996 feels slick but the boxster is not. I think this needs some attention. I'm not sure if it is just tight from minimal usage or something is a miss. The 996 had new shifter cables and it shifts lovely. I will ask some other owners for their thoughts on this.
I'm still driving the car with 4 fronts on so that means skinny 205 tyres all round. It drives nice. I've tried throwing it around a bit and other than small roundabouts I cant get the back end out of shape. The wheel arch gap is comical as the wheels are tucked into the arches by about 2 or even 3 inches. I think I've proved to myself that I dont need massive tyres on the back so now I need to decide if I am sticking with 4 fronts or buying some different wheels. My 996 does need its front wheels back.
The last thing I'll ramble on about is the engine and gearbox mounts. When I change gear in the boxster I definitely feel some weight shifting around especially when shifting at higher revs. It kind of feels wrong and makes me want to adjust my driving style to prevent it. I'm not sure fi this is normal or I just have some tired mounts on the car.
The driving position is much much better with the 997 seats. I like these so much I bought some for my 996 too. I still need to work out the wiring for the rake adjustment so for now they are stuck at the same angle and can not be adjusted. Right now the rake is maybe a bit too far back and I am almost too far from the steering wheel. I cant decide if I should try to rake the seat forward or try a test fit of my Momo wheel from the 996. The leg room is still much tighter in the boxster especially since the biting point of the clutch is very high in the boxster compared to the 996. So if I rake the seat forward I will just eat up a bit of leg room.
When I drive the 996 back to back with the boxster I notice the differences. I think the most annoying thing right now is the gear change. The 996 feels slick but the boxster is not. I think this needs some attention. I'm not sure if it is just tight from minimal usage or something is a miss. The 996 had new shifter cables and it shifts lovely. I will ask some other owners for their thoughts on this.
I'm still driving the car with 4 fronts on so that means skinny 205 tyres all round. It drives nice. I've tried throwing it around a bit and other than small roundabouts I cant get the back end out of shape. The wheel arch gap is comical as the wheels are tucked into the arches by about 2 or even 3 inches. I think I've proved to myself that I dont need massive tyres on the back so now I need to decide if I am sticking with 4 fronts or buying some different wheels. My 996 does need its front wheels back.
The last thing I'll ramble on about is the engine and gearbox mounts. When I change gear in the boxster I definitely feel some weight shifting around especially when shifting at higher revs. It kind of feels wrong and makes me want to adjust my driving style to prevent it. I'm not sure fi this is normal or I just have some tired mounts on the car.
snotrag said:
Apologies I missed your previous question - yes, the front Engine Mount and rear Transmission mounts are an easy DIJ job. Extra jack (or the widowmaker jack out the frunk) with a bit of wood under the engine to lift it, and just do one at a time.
If i remember rightly its 993RS engine mounts that fit the Boxster Transmission, one of the online places does a very well priced aftermarket kit. Made the gear change loads better and you can 'feel' the difference when cornering too.
The entire exhaust on Boxster/911 is solid mounted off the engine too which is quite different to most cars, so theres a lot of weight on them. When you see Boxsters with a saggy exhaust hanging two inches below the bumper cutout, its the transmission mounts. Most of the cheap cars you see these days!
My exhaust on the Boxster is the other way round - its hard up against the bumper cut out. And its slight off centre too but only my OCD mates care about that.If i remember rightly its 993RS engine mounts that fit the Boxster Transmission, one of the online places does a very well priced aftermarket kit. Made the gear change loads better and you can 'feel' the difference when cornering too.
The entire exhaust on Boxster/911 is solid mounted off the engine too which is quite different to most cars, so theres a lot of weight on them. When you see Boxsters with a saggy exhaust hanging two inches below the bumper cutout, its the transmission mounts. Most of the cheap cars you see these days!
shalmaneser said:
I was thinking about the 9x7 seats Vs 9x6 seats. My wife has sports seats in her Boxster and they are much better than the sports seats in my 996.
Engine moving about and odd gear changes is definitely the mounts.
Assuming she has a 987?Engine moving about and odd gear changes is definitely the mounts.
Forget the sports seats. They are very expensive second hand. Your best bet is the standard 9x7 seats because I think most people are trying to upgrade from standard to sport. These are plenty supportive because you sit in them rather than on them.
Also I'm not sure if the 987 seat is different to the 997 seat. I have 997 seats in my 996 and 987 seats in my 986 and the driving position is definitely different. It could just be the floor of the car because I am a lot higher in the 986.
shalmaneser said:
ATM said:
shalmaneser said:
I was thinking about the 9x7 seats Vs 9x6 seats. My wife has sports seats in her Boxster and they are much better than the sports seats in my 996.
Engine moving about and odd gear changes is definitely the mounts.
Assuming she has a 987?Engine moving about and odd gear changes is definitely the mounts.
Forget the sports seats. They are very expensive second hand. Your best bet is the standard 9x7 seats because I think most people are trying to upgrade from standard to sport. These are plenty supportive because you sit in them rather than on them.
Also I'm not sure if the 987 seat is different to the 997 seat. I have 997 seats in my 996 and 987 seats in my 986 and the driving position is definitely different. It could just be the floor of the car because I am a lot higher in the 986.
Sports seats are more expensive but I'm not sure I could justify the 'downgrade' from sports 986 to normal 987. And I could get them in grey so my interior matched!
I got lucky with my 986 - it has a black interior. I only paid 150 for these half leather and half whatever the rest is.
I had a bit of a blast in the Boxster a week or so ago. I did notice some juddering or vibration when braking. Recently I have just been pottering around and there is no judder even when braking firmly. I had a similar thing a few years in a cheap Renault run about I had which turned about to be a sticky calliper leaving the brake pad pushed up against the disc which then made it hot. You only noticed the judder once the disc had some heat in it. So I will be monitoring temps using my calibrated finger. I'm hoping its something simple anyway.
Niggles ongoing
Stiff / Indecisive gear change
Brake Judder when pressing on
Not sure about the boomy exhaust
Rattle or clunking from rear of the car which sounds like something is loose
Only 1 Key and it is disintegrating
Bonnet doesn't pop up when you open it so you have to pinch the edges by the head lights with your finger nails
Loving
987 seats
Super light - almost too light - clutch pedal
Looks brilliant with the hard top on and I can see out the back now
Niggles ongoing
Stiff / Indecisive gear change
Brake Judder when pressing on
Not sure about the boomy exhaust
Rattle or clunking from rear of the car which sounds like something is loose
Only 1 Key and it is disintegrating
Bonnet doesn't pop up when you open it so you have to pinch the edges by the head lights with your finger nails
Loving
987 seats
Super light - almost too light - clutch pedal
Looks brilliant with the hard top on and I can see out the back now
delays said:
Can we chat seats, quickly?
Same as you, I guess, I’m tired of feeling I sit on the car (in my case, an early 996 with just reach adjust steering). I’m also fairly tall, which compounds the issue.
Would you take - cost notwithstanding - the 9x7 seats over say a Pole Position? Purely talking driving position, not access to rear, aforementioned cost etc.
We can move this chat to my 996 thread if you want to be absolutely correct. But either way I have never sat in a pole position. I did buy some full on fixed buckets for my 996 but these are still sat gathering dust. Just the cost of runners and fittings is more than I paid for the 997 seats. Lets not get confused as I bought some 987 seats for the 986 and some 997 seats for the 996. I'm still not sure if they are the same as I definitely feel even lower in the 996 but that could just be a difference in the body's respected floors. If you want to have a sit in my car then let me know.Same as you, I guess, I’m tired of feeling I sit on the car (in my case, an early 996 with just reach adjust steering). I’m also fairly tall, which compounds the issue.
Would you take - cost notwithstanding - the 9x7 seats over say a Pole Position? Purely talking driving position, not access to rear, aforementioned cost etc.
Lithium battery news
Side not over and above the below. I've been poking around in a couple of 996 recently under the scuttle panel and then looking at my Boxster and comparing I've finally realised how absolutely pristine and brand new everything looks under there. I still get pangs of regret that I'm just ruining all this pristineness but that's what happens to cars. I bought it with the intention of using it like this so that is what I'm doing.
So back to the battery I'm just copying and pasting this from my 996 thread so apologies about that.....
So battery works absolutely fine, no surprises there I guess although it's still unexpected the first time you turn the key and that tiny battery starts the car. Is this a valid test, not sure. I guess living with the battery for a while and seeing how it copes with occasional use is more Interesting.
Let's talk about the fitting or lack of fitting. I was only intending to just do a few starts to get some confidence in the battery. But then thought what the hell let's just leave it in there for a few days.
I've removed the heavy metal battery tray from beneath. I'm not sure what purpose this serves other than to hold the battery. It does have a seal beneath it which is either to prevent moisture from going through onto the electric connectors on top of the tank or to prevent petrol vapour from rising, both just guesses on my part.
Let me know if you think I need to replace it or I can live without it.
I will consider some better options for a more rigid fit. Chime in with any ideas.
Side not over and above the below. I've been poking around in a couple of 996 recently under the scuttle panel and then looking at my Boxster and comparing I've finally realised how absolutely pristine and brand new everything looks under there. I still get pangs of regret that I'm just ruining all this pristineness but that's what happens to cars. I bought it with the intention of using it like this so that is what I'm doing.
So back to the battery I'm just copying and pasting this from my 996 thread so apologies about that.....
ATM said:
My first Lithium Ion Battery has arrived.
Decided to try it out in the Boxster first because the 996 doesn't have an MOT, oops. It was a bit late when I got round to doing this and dark obviously. I'm a sucker for putting things off till tomorrow so decided to strike while the iron is hot, whatever that means.So battery works absolutely fine, no surprises there I guess although it's still unexpected the first time you turn the key and that tiny battery starts the car. Is this a valid test, not sure. I guess living with the battery for a while and seeing how it copes with occasional use is more Interesting.
Let's talk about the fitting or lack of fitting. I was only intending to just do a few starts to get some confidence in the battery. But then thought what the hell let's just leave it in there for a few days.
I've removed the heavy metal battery tray from beneath. I'm not sure what purpose this serves other than to hold the battery. It does have a seal beneath it which is either to prevent moisture from going through onto the electric connectors on top of the tank or to prevent petrol vapour from rising, both just guesses on my part.
Let me know if you think I need to replace it or I can live without it.
I will consider some better options for a more rigid fit. Chime in with any ideas.
roboxm3 said:
I've had lithium batteries in my last couple of bikes and I've been really impressed with the weight, how well they hold charge etc. and I'd considered one for the Boxster but my main concern wasn't the starting but the hood operation; does the Li battery seem to cope with that alright??
Why would it not, do you think it doesn't have juice to complete the job?I cant test it myself because I have the hard top on right now.
I'm not so worried about leaving the car for periods of inactivity because these cars shut down and you need to use the key in the door lock to wake them up. So during this time the theory is it will use no or very little power. My 981 is different because even after 2 months if I press the button on the key it reacts so no shutting down. It also has a truly massive AGM battery too but thats another story for another day....
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