1999 Accord Type-R - Saved from the scrapheap
Discussion
supacool1 said:
I used to have a Prelude Vti Motegi edition back in the day in my late teens. I loved the engine in that car. The H22A8 was a peach of an engine. Reasonably torquey low down and proper 'Vtec just kicked in yo' shove at 5200 rpm. And also sounded the nuts at switch over.
Good work on keeping the accord alive.
Yup same; Iceberg Silver IIRC and it was a superb engine, better when I put the ATR cams in and swapped out to the ATR brakes too Good work on keeping the accord alive.
I never fell in love with my Pirates Black ATR, but loved my BB8 Prelude! Shouldn’t have sold it (we say that about every car)
"clearly hadn't been thrashed as he was reluctant to take it into VTEC when I was viewing it"
True story bro - over the space of about 4 years my wife owned a DC2 and and DC5. I was driving the DC2 one day and had to speed up to get past a vehicle. We entered the vtec zone and the car went nuts as they do. Immediately my wife starts screaming "oh my God you have broken it!". She'd never once been above 5k revs
TX.
True story bro - over the space of about 4 years my wife owned a DC2 and and DC5. I was driving the DC2 one day and had to speed up to get past a vehicle. We entered the vtec zone and the car went nuts as they do. Immediately my wife starts screaming "oh my God you have broken it!". She'd never once been above 5k revs
TX.
As promised, flyby video now the intake is on! VTEC is even more addictive now 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPNQUGG_epg
Sounds epic, it's got 80% of the intake noise of the BTCC Accords from 20 years ago
I want a bit of a deeper exhaust tone, and a 3" system coupled with a remap will unlock some more power so that's fairly high on the list of things to do next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPNQUGG_epg
Sounds epic, it's got 80% of the intake noise of the BTCC Accords from 20 years ago
I want a bit of a deeper exhaust tone, and a 3" system coupled with a remap will unlock some more power so that's fairly high on the list of things to do next.
During the heavy rain recently followed by massive humidity, got a good chance to see the beading now it's ben detailed and waxed. Not had a car that's done this for ages!
Love that front end.
Put the lights on for the photos, then noticed how slowly the window worked so tried to start it, just got clicking followed by the alarm going mental. Hadn't been used much as I didn't have a rear plate on it. Luckily live on a hill so didn't need to get the jump leads oiut, just rolled down the road in 2nd and let the clutch out and we were away.
Thought it'd be rude to not then go for a drive, and as my rear plate had finally arrived (oooor I'd finally got around to ordering it as it actually came pretty quickly) I dried the surround and stuck it on.
It's a slightly smaller plate (400x100 rather than the standard 520x111) and for such a minor change, it makes quite a difference! Looks way better. I may get smaller plates for all my cars now. Annoying as I've only recently put a new full size one on the VTi-S
Few more shots, can't stop taking photos of the damn thing.
Recently a set of beautiful Enkei NT03s came up for sale from a Facebook friend, so got my mate to Photoshop them. They look absolutely incredible.
Some definite JTCC/BTCC vibes there!
Sadly, photoshop is as close as they'll get, they're 17x7 et35, the standard wheels on these Accords are et55, and to run a 35 offset will need me to absolutely batter the arches to get them to fit without rubbing. As my arches are super clean, it's not something I'm willing to do. Gutted really as they would've looked brilliant.
I've just got off the phone with VTECDirect again, who are going to take some more money off me! They have a lightweight alloy pulley set that they'll be fitting for £200, which I'm told will cure the wobbly crank pulley. Will also be having a sump baffle plate welded in to allow high speed cornering on track, and (hopefully) without ruining the engine as a result of oil starvation.
Not too much left then to get it on track, just need to fit my alloy rad, get a better fitting exhaust and I'd like some new wheels and stickier rubber!
Love that front end.
Put the lights on for the photos, then noticed how slowly the window worked so tried to start it, just got clicking followed by the alarm going mental. Hadn't been used much as I didn't have a rear plate on it. Luckily live on a hill so didn't need to get the jump leads oiut, just rolled down the road in 2nd and let the clutch out and we were away.
Thought it'd be rude to not then go for a drive, and as my rear plate had finally arrived (oooor I'd finally got around to ordering it
as it actually came pretty quickly) I dried the surround and stuck it on.It's a slightly smaller plate (400x100 rather than the standard 520x111) and for such a minor change, it makes quite a difference! Looks way better. I may get smaller plates for all my cars now. Annoying as I've only recently put a new full size one on the VTi-S
Few more shots, can't stop taking photos of the damn thing.
Recently a set of beautiful Enkei NT03s came up for sale from a Facebook friend, so got my mate to Photoshop them. They look absolutely incredible.
Some definite JTCC/BTCC vibes there!
Sadly, photoshop is as close as they'll get, they're 17x7 et35, the standard wheels on these Accords are et55, and to run a 35 offset will need me to absolutely batter the arches to get them to fit without rubbing. As my arches are super clean, it's not something I'm willing to do. Gutted really as they would've looked brilliant.
I've just got off the phone with VTECDirect again, who are going to take some more money off me! They have a lightweight alloy pulley set that they'll be fitting for £200, which I'm told will cure the wobbly crank pulley. Will also be having a sump baffle plate welded in to allow high speed cornering on track, and (hopefully) without ruining the engine as a result of oil starvation.
Not too much left then to get it on track, just need to fit my alloy rad, get a better fitting exhaust and I'd like some new wheels and stickier rubber!
Jaaack said:
During the heavy rain recently followed by massive humidity, got a good chance to see the beading now it's ben detailed and waxed. Not had a car that's done this for ages!
Love that front end.
Put the lights on for the photos, then noticed how slowly the window worked so tried to start it, just got clicking followed by the alarm going mental. Hadn't been used much as I didn't have a rear plate on it. Luckily live on a hill so didn't need to get the jump leads oiut, just rolled down the road in 2nd and let the clutch out and we were away.
Thought it'd be rude to not then go for a drive, and as my rear plate had finally arrived (oooor I'd finally got around to ordering it as it actually came pretty quickly) I dried the surround and stuck it on.
It's a slightly smaller plate (400x100 rather than the standard 520x111) and for such a minor change, it makes quite a difference! Looks way better. I may get smaller plates for all my cars now. Annoying as I've only recently put a new full size one on the VTi-S
Few more shots, can't stop taking photos of the damn thing.
Recently a set of beautiful Enkei NT03s came up for sale from a Facebook friend, so got my mate to Photoshop them. They look absolutely incredible.
Some definite JTCC/BTCC vibes there!
Sadly, photoshop is as close as they'll get, they're 17x7 et35, the standard wheels on these Accords are et55, and to run a 35 offset will need me to absolutely batter the arches to get them to fit without rubbing. As my arches are super clean, it's not something I'm willing to do. Gutted really as they would've looked brilliant.
I've just got off the phone with VTECDirect again, who are going to take some more money off me! They have a lightweight alloy pulley set that they'll be fitting for £200, which I'm told will cure the wobbly crank pulley. Will also be having a sump baffle plate welded in to allow high speed cornering on track, and (hopefully) without ruining the engine as a result of oil starvation.
Not too much left then to get it on track, just need to fit my alloy rad, get a better fitting exhaust and I'd like some new wheels and stickier rubber!
Really liking this; quite jealous TBH Love that front end.
Put the lights on for the photos, then noticed how slowly the window worked so tried to start it, just got clicking followed by the alarm going mental. Hadn't been used much as I didn't have a rear plate on it. Luckily live on a hill so didn't need to get the jump leads oiut, just rolled down the road in 2nd and let the clutch out and we were away.
Thought it'd be rude to not then go for a drive, and as my rear plate had finally arrived (oooor I'd finally got around to ordering it
as it actually came pretty quickly) I dried the surround and stuck it on.It's a slightly smaller plate (400x100 rather than the standard 520x111) and for such a minor change, it makes quite a difference! Looks way better. I may get smaller plates for all my cars now. Annoying as I've only recently put a new full size one on the VTi-S
Few more shots, can't stop taking photos of the damn thing.
Recently a set of beautiful Enkei NT03s came up for sale from a Facebook friend, so got my mate to Photoshop them. They look absolutely incredible.
Some definite JTCC/BTCC vibes there!
Sadly, photoshop is as close as they'll get, they're 17x7 et35, the standard wheels on these Accords are et55, and to run a 35 offset will need me to absolutely batter the arches to get them to fit without rubbing. As my arches are super clean, it's not something I'm willing to do. Gutted really as they would've looked brilliant.
I've just got off the phone with VTECDirect again, who are going to take some more money off me! They have a lightweight alloy pulley set that they'll be fitting for £200, which I'm told will cure the wobbly crank pulley. Will also be having a sump baffle plate welded in to allow high speed cornering on track, and (hopefully) without ruining the engine as a result of oil starvation.
Not too much left then to get it on track, just need to fit my alloy rad, get a better fitting exhaust and I'd like some new wheels and stickier rubber!
Looks stunning in red too
They are cracking cars! With so few left it's good to see a cared for example (such a shame for the two scrappers!). I'm on my second one - 2000 Pre in Titan Silver - which I have also been restoring. I don't have the patience to do a write up like you, so hats off to you, sir. Not the fastest car these days but an absolute hoot to drive and what an induction noise!
Terminator X said:
"clearly hadn't been thrashed as he was reluctant to take it into VTEC when I was viewing it"
True story bro - over the space of about 4 years my wife owned a DC2 and and DC5. I was driving the DC2 one day and had to speed up to get past a vehicle. We entered the vtec zone and the car went nuts as they do. Immediately my wife starts screaming "oh my God you have broken it!". She'd never once been above 5k revs
TX.
That reminds me of my ex girlfriend and her suzuki swift sport, a car with very little torque. She short shifted every single journey and made very slow progress. I used to love taking it out on my own in the lanes to give it a good thrashing! True story bro - over the space of about 4 years my wife owned a DC2 and and DC5. I was driving the DC2 one day and had to speed up to get past a vehicle. We entered the vtec zone and the car went nuts as they do. Immediately my wife starts screaming "oh my God you have broken it!". She'd never once been above 5k revs
TX.
Leftfootwonder said:
They are cracking cars! With so few left it's good to see a cared for example (such a shame for the two scrappers!). I'm on my second one - 2000 Pre in Titan Silver - which I have also been restoring. I don't have the patience to do a write up like you, so hats off to you, sir. Not the fastest car these days but an absolute hoot to drive and what an induction noise!
Nice to see another one on here! Would be good to see a write-up if you ever have a few hours spare, I love reading about ATRs and they seem to go down pretty well on here. There were actually three scrappers but only two pictured here, but they truly were absolute sheds. They managed to keep several others on the road though, along with providing an engine/box swap for my Prelude.
It's a shame the power delivery game has moved on so much, I would think these would've been seen as a pretty quick car in their day, and they do feel so willing and responsive, but a 2.0 diesel with a remap will make an ATR look silly these days. However it's not all about outright acceleration, the feeling these cars give is immense. Beautiful steering, that aggressive diff, and the super responsive engine make them so good to drive. When I took the photos the other day, I was out for about an hour or so, just caning it up and down local bypasses
They're so stable too, even in the wet the handling is incredibly neutral and it inspires a lot of confidence that it's not going to bite you and send you into a hedge.Regarding people's comments on the unsubtle exhausts, I do want to get them lined up better. There's a reciept in the car's history for £600, the poor previous owner got absolutely had! They were nowhere near fitting properly, as you can see on the first page. VTECDirect welded a section in to line them up a bit better but really it needs a full exhaust system, but I'd quite like to keep those backboxes as they're HKS items and I like the look of them (or would if they tucked right up to the bumper) Other than those boxes and a decat, the exhaust system appears to be standard and the pipework is very narrow, these engines supposedly flow enough gas that they require a 3" system for max efficiency, so I'd like to get one made in the nearish future. If the current backboxes won't cause flow issues I'll probably reuse them with a new system, they're not subtle but then neither is the car really, in a sea of grey Audis and black Kadjars
I'd like a bit more noise from it too, so a new less restrictive exhaust will definitely provide that!Jaaack said:
Nice to see another one on here! Would be good to see a write-up if you ever have a few hours spare, I love reading about ATRs and they seem to go down pretty well on here. There were actually three scrappers but only two pictured
here, but they truly were absolute sheds. They managed to keep several others on the road though, along with providing an engine/box swap for my Prelude.
It's a shame the power delivery game has moved on so much, I would think these would've been seen as a pretty quick car in their day, and they do feel so willing and responsive, but a 2.0 diesel with a remap will make an ATR look silly these days. However it's not all about outright acceleration, the feeling these cars give is immense. Beautiful steering, that aggressive diff, and the super responsive engine make them so good to drive. When I took the photos the other day, I was out for about an hour or so, just caning it up and down local bypasses They're so stable too, even in the wet the handling is incredibly neutral and it inspires a lot of confidence that it's not going to bite you and send you into a hedge.
Glad to hear the scrappers went to good use! Always hate to see them broken down for parts on eBay etc. Maybe I will do a write up at some point. My brother used to have a Prelude, only the 2.0, but as 18/19 year old's at the time, we couldn't believe how low to the ground you sat and how well it handled. Why they and ATRs, well most fast Honda's really, are so underrated i'll never know. here, but they truly were absolute sheds. They managed to keep several others on the road though, along with providing an engine/box swap for my Prelude.
It's a shame the power delivery game has moved on so much, I would think these would've been seen as a pretty quick car in their day, and they do feel so willing and responsive, but a 2.0 diesel with a remap will make an ATR look silly these days. However it's not all about outright acceleration, the feeling these cars give is immense. Beautiful steering, that aggressive diff, and the super responsive engine make them so good to drive. When I took the photos the other day, I was out for about an hour or so, just caning it up and down local bypasses
They're so stable too, even in the wet the handling is incredibly neutral and it inspires a lot of confidence that it's not going to bite you and send you into a hedge.I used to have an EP3 Type R but the balance, steering feel, standard LSD and more brutal cam change over on the ATR made it much the better car to me. I suppose the EP3 was fighting with Fiesta's which is why it stood out, rather than Impreza's like the ATR, so it was always going to be slower and therefore seen as not as desirable by the masses. The point most people miss, I think, is that Honda usually get the details spot on. The momo steering wheel is the same as the later F355 and 550 Ferrari's, the crackled red top engine is, again, like a Ferrari and the same Recaro's as the Evo, not to mention the titanium (aluminium in later cars) gear knob which just feels so right too. Makes the whole thing feel like a mini-exotic. I imagine if it had an Alfa badge on it, they would be worth £40-50k. One of the few things I can criticise is the drivers seat was set too high, but I have lowered mine and now sit nice and low.
Even at 20 years old the engine just revs all day long and the gearbox, again, is underrated. It's right up there with the S2k, assuming the syncro is OK. People get caught up on the fact that it feels lethargic off cam but if you know how to drive them, i.e. put in a bit of effort with the gear stick and be progressive with the throttle, then they still feel quick today. It is such a shame there are so few left, even the ATR owners forum is a empty barren land now. I can't remember the last time I saw another one in the wild.
Great to see you're enjoying your car OP!
They are certainly a decent cut price alternative to an Integra- a great chassis & feels small for a saloon car.
Just a bit porky & harder to keep in VTEC owing to having a rev limiter 600rpm lower. Gearchange not in the same league either
Great on VTEC but found both of mine tiresome as you absolutely had to pedal it flat out to go quickly
Just a bit porky & harder to keep in VTEC owing to having a rev limiter 600rpm lower. Gearchange not in the same league either
Great on VTEC but found both of mine tiresome as you absolutely had to pedal it flat out to go quickly
Terminator X said:
"clearly hadn't been thrashed as he was reluctant to take it into VTEC when I was viewing it"
True story bro - over the space of about 4 years my wife owned a DC2 and and DC5. I was driving the DC2 one day and had to speed up to get past a vehicle. We entered the vtec zone and the car went nuts as they do. Immediately my wife starts screaming "oh my God you have broken it!". She'd never once been above 5k revs
TX.
Ah the memories. In 2007 we picked up a fresh Import DC5 from Distinctive Cars York for the Mrs. I still remember the first time I taught her VTEC on the drive home...True story bro - over the space of about 4 years my wife owned a DC2 and and DC5. I was driving the DC2 one day and had to speed up to get past a vehicle. We entered the vtec zone and the car went nuts as they do. Immediately my wife starts screaming "oh my God you have broken it!". She'd never once been above 5k revs
TX.
Leave it... leave it....leave it... (every part of her desperate to change gear)... leave it....NOW!
Dropped it off at VTECDirect last night, finally getting that crank pulley replaced with a lightweight pulley set. It won't fix the possible worn crank, but it should prevent it from throwing off/snapping belts. Will look a little nicer under the bonnet too as it's a full set, alternator and power steering pump along with the crank. It's also having a baffle plate welded into the sump to help prevent oil starvation on track, and obviously fresh oil and a filter
Not quite how I wanted my Friday to go! Never a good feeling getting a picture message from the bloke who's working on your car
Still waiting on a text to go pick it up, and I suspect I'll be spending a bit more than I was expecting. Par for the course with this car really!
I went for a bit of a hoon in it the other evening, got a text the next morning from a pal who I'd caned it past. Apparently it has a tendency to shoot 4-foot flames on gearchanges now I hadn't a clue! It very occasionally lets out a subtle pop now it's got no cat, but I didn't have a clue about the flames, I guess it's overfuelling due to the knackered lambda sensor.
Not quite how I wanted my Friday to go! Never a good feeling getting a picture message from the bloke who's working on your car
Still waiting on a text to go pick it up, and I suspect I'll be spending a bit more than I was expecting. Par for the course with this car really!
I went for a bit of a hoon in it the other evening, got a text the next morning from a pal who I'd caned it past. Apparently it has a tendency to shoot 4-foot flames on gearchanges now
I hadn't a clue! It very occasionally lets out a subtle pop now it's got no cat, but I didn't have a clue about the flames, I guess it's overfuelling due to the knackered lambda sensor. chrismc1977 said:
Honda VTECs are always mapped a bit rich at the top end to keep cylinder temps down & protect them at high rpm.
Lambda only controls fuelling when closed loop- so it’ll just be a combination of no Cat, rich map & roasting hot exhaust causing any pops & flameage!
Ah fair enough, makes sense. Exhaust had definitely been comprehensively warmed in the few minutes prior Lambda only controls fuelling when closed loop- so it’ll just be a combination of no Cat, rich map & roasting hot exhaust causing any pops & flameage!
Had another update from Ben. "Found a 10" hole in the sill, the inner arch and OSF chassis leg are starting to go"
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k.Right then, got the call yesterday to pick it up. Ended up being a day's labour, plus the cost of the baffle plate, pulley set etc. £527 later, it's home, but the news is not good.
Baffle in, so should be safe to do trackdays now without worrying about oil starvation under hard cornering.
Unfortunately, doesn't look like I'll be doing any trackdays this year like I'd planned. 2 reasons. The first, despite this being by far the most solid ATR I've owned (see page 1 for evidence of that) the dreaded rot has reared it's ugly head. As I mentioned on the first page, the bulkhead had a scab on it when I bought it, but I simply buried my head in the sand and didn't look at it again. That's not too bad, I knew it was there and I knew it'd need doing eventually - that time is around now. Of more concern is the fact the driver's side sill is now very 'superleggera'. There's also evidence of some rust starting around the front arches and chassis legs. I'm worried about what we'll find once we start digging, as I know just how badly these cars can screw you over with regards to rot, despite not appearing too bad.
Bulkhead (again, not too upset about this as it's deteriorating at a very slow rate due to not letting it see salty roads, but I'll show you anyway)
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You can see brown marks coming through the factory underseal. From experience I'd say the metal up to that point is pretty much toast, they usually rot into a triangular hole as 3 pieces of metal join here and all seem to rot back at about the same rate from the seam. Other side isn't much better IIRC.
Sill:
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Don't have photos of the front chassis leg/inner arch, and I've not seen it myself either, but last time I was under it was just starting to show brown mars through the underseal.
TBH, it'll get sorted, but it's just another setback for me. I'm expecting that by the time it's been cut back to clean metal, stripped enough to allow new metal in (dash may have to come out to allow the bulkhead repair without setting fire to it) and welded up, it's gonan be between £500-1000. Maybe more.
The other massive headache is, I asked them to investigate why it's a pain to start when hot. It's always done this ever since buying it, but seems to go through phases of severity. It always turns over slowly, but always starts first time when cold. If I try and start it when hot it can be a nightmare. A few weeks ago, the battery had been off, so it needed to relearn it's idle. It stalled when I was moving it around at home as the buggered idle combined with asking for assistance from the power steering just dipped the revs low enough to stop it running, it then wouldn't start for a few minutes, it was almost as if it was hydrolocked as it'd barely turn over. It hasn't done it that badly since, but I went to pick up a curry the other week from the next town, so it was red hot by the time I got there and turned it off, again it was a nightmare to start, just seemed like the battery was weak. After a few attempts and a minute or so, I got it going.
Seemed like an earthing or starter issue, the battery is fine as I've tried it on my Prelude and it starts perfectly. Ben thinks it's likely to be the head gasket, based on his vast experience of doing hundreds of them over the years. It's not mixing coolant or oil, or even letting coolant into the cylinders, so if it's failed it's failed between 2 cylinders. I'll probably let Ben compression/leakdown test it just to get some certainty before forking out.
But then it's a question of throwing good money after bad. Do I continue with this engine or buy a low mileage unit from a crashed or rotten car? I've recently spent £300 on a load of new oil seals, had the cambelt done last year etc. Just had the sump and pulleys done although that could be swapped onto another lump. The engine still drives perfectly, albeit a bit smokey since the decat but I'm not really concerned - Hondas do use oil, especially with nearly 190k, it's bloody quick, sounds fairly healthy etc.
On a happier note, also had the lightweight pulleys put on, the crank is defintely worn as this one wobbles to, but hopefully won't cause any issues with throwing the belts off.
Baffle in, so should be safe to do trackdays now without worrying about oil starvation under hard cornering.
Unfortunately, doesn't look like I'll be doing any trackdays this year like I'd planned. 2 reasons. The first, despite this being by far the most solid ATR I've owned (see page 1 for evidence of that) the dreaded rot has reared it's ugly head. As I mentioned on the first page, the bulkhead had a scab on it when I bought it, but I simply buried my head in the sand and didn't look at it again. That's not too bad, I knew it was there and I knew it'd need doing eventually - that time is around now. Of more concern is the fact the driver's side sill is now very 'superleggera'. There's also evidence of some rust starting around the front arches and chassis legs. I'm worried about what we'll find once we start digging, as I know just how badly these cars can screw you over with regards to rot, despite not appearing too bad.
Bulkhead (again, not too upset about this as it's deteriorating at a very slow rate due to not letting it see salty roads, but I'll show you anyway)
|https://thumbsnap.com/55t4LtZd[/url][url]|https://thumbsnap.com/2WpfQQU3[/url]You can see brown marks coming through the factory underseal. From experience I'd say the metal up to that point is pretty much toast, they usually rot into a triangular hole as 3 pieces of metal join here and all seem to rot back at about the same rate from the seam. Other side isn't much better IIRC.
Sill:
[url]Don't have photos of the front chassis leg/inner arch, and I've not seen it myself either, but last time I was under it was just starting to show brown mars through the underseal.
TBH, it'll get sorted, but it's just another setback for me. I'm expecting that by the time it's been cut back to clean metal, stripped enough to allow new metal in (dash may have to come out to allow the bulkhead repair without setting fire to it) and welded up, it's gonan be between £500-1000. Maybe more.
The other massive headache is, I asked them to investigate why it's a pain to start when hot. It's always done this ever since buying it, but seems to go through phases of severity. It always turns over slowly, but always starts first time when cold. If I try and start it when hot it can be a nightmare. A few weeks ago, the battery had been off, so it needed to relearn it's idle. It stalled when I was moving it around at home as the buggered idle combined with asking for assistance from the power steering just dipped the revs low enough to stop it running, it then wouldn't start for a few minutes, it was almost as if it was hydrolocked as it'd barely turn over. It hasn't done it that badly since, but I went to pick up a curry the other week from the next town, so it was red hot by the time I got there and turned it off, again it was a nightmare to start, just seemed like the battery was weak. After a few attempts and a minute or so, I got it going.
Seemed like an earthing or starter issue, the battery is fine as I've tried it on my Prelude and it starts perfectly. Ben thinks it's likely to be the head gasket, based on his vast experience of doing hundreds of them over the years. It's not mixing coolant or oil, or even letting coolant into the cylinders, so if it's failed it's failed between 2 cylinders. I'll probably let Ben compression/leakdown test it just to get some certainty before forking out.
But then it's a question of throwing good money after bad. Do I continue with this engine or buy a low mileage unit from a crashed or rotten car? I've recently spent £300 on a load of new oil seals, had the cambelt done last year etc. Just had the sump and pulleys done although that could be swapped onto another lump. The engine still drives perfectly, albeit a bit smokey since the decat but I'm not really concerned - Hondas do use oil, especially with nearly 190k, it's bloody quick, sounds fairly healthy etc.
On a happier note, also had the lightweight pulleys put on, the crank is defintely worn as this one wobbles to, but hopefully won't cause any issues with throwing the belts off.
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