Audi S5 B9 Sportback - 3.0 V6 Turbo
Discussion
joropug said:
Lovely - have you got some photos of the black bits please and any links you might have. Interested in what you’ve done to the rear splitter as it’s chrome and grey
Thankyou. Car is completely un-fettled (other than a long list of optional extras), it's a Black Edition so black bits are all standard.
joropug said:
Interesting - I found an A5/S5 brochure online and couldn’t it as an option. Perhaps there are some factory parts I can acquire.
I think the chrome looks great on your car. I actually wanted a car with chrome, instead of Black Edition, but this car came up with all the options and I couldn't pass on it.
joropug said:
Strange one on your 5 - can you record it to show them ? Difficult if they can’t replicate. Our A1 always started harder after the cambelt was done - thought maybe they adjusted the engine mounts or something to access it. Fingers crossed.
It's hard to get it on video really, although I did try. The car's going in the night before so they can do a cold start the following morning. It may be nothing, "..they all do that sir..." but better to check it than find it's an issue that could've been prevented further down the line. Same with the coolant warning - at least there'll be a record of that in the car's systems.Percy. said:
Thankyou.
Car is completely un-fettled (other than a long list of optional extras), it's a Black Edition so black bits are all standard.
Not a Black Edition, and not standard either. It was an option called "Black Styling Pack".Car is completely un-fettled (other than a long list of optional extras), it's a Black Edition so black bits are all standard.
S5 wasn't available as a Black Edition nor was it possible to specify black styling.
Different for the newer diesel engined cars where you could have a Black Edition, that did include Black styling as standard.
Dr G said:
Percy. said:
Thankyou.
Car is completely un-fettled (other than a long list of optional extras), it's a Black Edition so black bits are all standard.
Not a Black Edition, and not standard either. It was an option called "Black Styling Pack".Car is completely un-fettled (other than a long list of optional extras), it's a Black Edition so black bits are all standard.
S5 wasn't available as a Black Edition nor was it possible to specify black styling.
Different for the newer diesel engined cars where you could have a Black Edition, that did include Black styling as standard.
Haha - Anorak central and I love it.
I bought a Carista dongle, bargain at £17.50 from Amazon and a month trial of the subscription (which I certainly shan’t be continuing with).
On my Wife’s Q3 I was able to clear the annoying inspection due bong, supplying garage changed the gearbox oil and reset it so it was out of sync with the oil servicing. Very easy to use for that.
On mine I had a play with the coding but to be honest there was very little worth changing. Mine already had nearly everything turned on, perhaps more useful if retrofitting stuff or have a lower trim level. I am going to look to see if OBD11 has additional coding options.
What I did change:
- Lane change indicator set to 4 flashes
- Start/Stop disabled
Start/Stop is an interesting one - in BMWs you change the default setting to off, rather than on.
In my Audi, it appears to be on but not ready to work, I.E you get the A symbol with the cross through it like you do if the engine is cold, when coming to a stop.
It also says in the app that the block only works when the HVAC is active, so I think from that I can take it that it somehow tricks the HVAC signal to the car to say “I need to keep running, don’t stop the engine!”.
Works perfectly, I never use it unless I’m going to be stopped for a considerable time. If I really want to activate it, turning the HVAC to off worked instantly!
Edit - turned Start/Stop back on - prefer controlling it from the button rather than the HVAC .
I bought a Carista dongle, bargain at £17.50 from Amazon and a month trial of the subscription (which I certainly shan’t be continuing with).
On my Wife’s Q3 I was able to clear the annoying inspection due bong, supplying garage changed the gearbox oil and reset it so it was out of sync with the oil servicing. Very easy to use for that.
On mine I had a play with the coding but to be honest there was very little worth changing. Mine already had nearly everything turned on, perhaps more useful if retrofitting stuff or have a lower trim level. I am going to look to see if OBD11 has additional coding options.
What I did change:
- Lane change indicator set to 4 flashes
- Start/Stop disabled
Start/Stop is an interesting one - in BMWs you change the default setting to off, rather than on.
In my Audi, it appears to be on but not ready to work, I.E you get the A symbol with the cross through it like you do if the engine is cold, when coming to a stop.
It also says in the app that the block only works when the HVAC is active, so I think from that I can take it that it somehow tricks the HVAC signal to the car to say “I need to keep running, don’t stop the engine!”.
Works perfectly, I never use it unless I’m going to be stopped for a considerable time. If I really want to activate it, turning the HVAC to off worked instantly!
Edit - turned Start/Stop back on - prefer controlling it from the button rather than the HVAC .
Edited by joropug on Thursday 24th November 00:28
Dr G said:
Not a Black Edition, and not standard either. It was an option called "Black Styling Pack".
S5 wasn't available as a Black Edition nor was it possible to specify black styling.
Different for the newer diesel engined cars where you could have a Black Edition, that did include Black styling as standard.
Thankyou for this information. I spoke to you over email about the Sprint Blue S4 Avant that you had for sale at the time. S5 wasn't available as a Black Edition nor was it possible to specify black styling.
Different for the newer diesel engined cars where you could have a Black Edition, that did include Black styling as standard.
I just assumed it was designated as Black Edition, but remember seeing it labelled as 'Black Styling Pack' now that you mention it.
I'm looking to find the option list of what's specc'd on my car as it does have an extensive options list. I've tried a few of the VIN "window sticker" checkers and they don't come up with anything.
Percy. said:
Thankyou for this information. I spoke to you over email about the Sprint Blue S4 Avant that you had for sale at the time.
I just assumed it was designated as Black Edition, but remember seeing it labelled as 'Black Styling Pack' now that you mention it.
I'm looking to find the option list of what's specc'd on my car as it does have an extensive options list. I've tried a few of the VIN "window sticker" checkers and they don't come up with anything.
Email Audi and they can tell you. I used this A5 brochure to work mine out, before I got the full list. I just assumed it was designated as Black Edition, but remember seeing it labelled as 'Black Styling Pack' now that you mention it.
I'm looking to find the option list of what's specc'd on my car as it does have an extensive options list. I've tried a few of the VIN "window sticker" checkers and they don't come up with anything.
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joropug said:
Email Audi and they can tell you. I used this A5 brochure to work mine out, before I got the full list.
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I have roughly gone through the B9 A4 brochure and worked it out from there, but would like the list like you have.
Was it a case of just emailing your local Audi dealership or Audi UK?
Percy. said:
Thankyou.
I have roughly gone through the B9 A4 brochure and worked it out from there, but would like the list like you have.
Was it a case of just emailing your local Audi dealership or Audi UK?
I did my query via the salesman, imagine if you give your local dealer a call the service department can share it - maybe ask for a copy of your digital history at the same time so it’s less annoying ! I have roughly gone through the B9 A4 brochure and worked it out from there, but would like the list like you have.
Was it a case of just emailing your local Audi dealership or Audi UK?
Percy. said:
Thankyou for this information. I spoke to you over email about the Sprint Blue S4 Avant that you had for sale at the time.
Ha, small world.Email me your chassis number and I'll bounce you back the build sheet. None of the "vin decoder" things work for anything VW group, the data isn't public as such. Needs to be bought from Erwin.
Upon driving the later B9.5 I found myself hankering for the facelift gear shifter, which offers a perforated / dimpled finish over the flat.
Mine:
I couldn’t find a part number and figured Audi would be expensive, so looked at aftermarket. This photo was enough to put me off:
The perforations are not staggered, nor are they even straight…..
I couldn’t find any second hand OEM ones either until a thought shot through my mind. I ended up buying this entire unit for £40 on eBay!:
Now obviously I have no intention of replacing the mechanism. All I wanted was the leather cap which pops off by gripping, squeezing and slightly pulling upwards, then jamming a pry tool in the passenger side to release it fully.
It arrived in excellent condition but before installing I gave it a good clean to lift dirt in the dimples. I also applied the magic eraser treatment, first time user they are amazing!
Before:
After:
Quick fitting:
Cleaned up the old one too, amazing difference before and after:
Will be chucking the selector unit back on eBay and anything I get for it is a bonus. I’ll keep the original leather cap I guess.
Mine:
I couldn’t find a part number and figured Audi would be expensive, so looked at aftermarket. This photo was enough to put me off:
The perforations are not staggered, nor are they even straight…..
I couldn’t find any second hand OEM ones either until a thought shot through my mind. I ended up buying this entire unit for £40 on eBay!:
Now obviously I have no intention of replacing the mechanism. All I wanted was the leather cap which pops off by gripping, squeezing and slightly pulling upwards, then jamming a pry tool in the passenger side to release it fully.
It arrived in excellent condition but before installing I gave it a good clean to lift dirt in the dimples. I also applied the magic eraser treatment, first time user they are amazing!
Before:
After:
Quick fitting:
Cleaned up the old one too, amazing difference before and after:
Will be chucking the selector unit back on eBay and anything I get for it is a bonus. I’ll keep the original leather cap I guess.
Just a quick update on the S5.
Now on 34k, average MPG seems to settle at around 25 for my use across a tank. Getting up to 36 on the motorway (did 370 miles in one go and it was very comfortable and a nice place to be.)
Like:
-Heated & Massaging seats - Don't use the massage that often but it's nice to stretch you on a long journey.
-Performance - Engine and gearbox are a great combo, AWD grip is immense to the point of 1st gear rolling starts in Sport/Dynamic has zero wheelsman even in the wet.
Dislike:
-I find the roofline a little low which is a pain when reaching inside the car to get something out of the armrest, or rear seats for instance. Pretty minor but I'm not tall - it would be really hard if I was.
-Rattles - Overall it's a really solid build and I think am lucky considering some of the stuff I have read. But from the stereo system, I'd like to turn it up a little more and add more bass but I can't without it buzzing the interior. Will dynamat at some point.
-Rear rattles are far worse - I would like to have spent more time on this already but every time I do it rains. Basically I have an interior movement/rattle over harsh bumps. Coupled with the hard suspension it does it quite often and takes away from the otherwise premium feel.
I have taken a load of steps already and have been making a list of solutions of others found online! Overall so far, I think I have realised I had 2 unique noises. The first was the rear seat bench (larger side) had a lot of flex as it doesn't connect to anything in the centre. I have added some foam padding to the back of the seat to pad it out and reduce it. That was a shuffling sort of sound.
The rattle is still eluding me though. Here's what I have done/plan to hit next:
Rear seat bench:
-Felt between seat and plastic pillars
-Felt on metal latches
-Bracing for larger seat portion to reduce movement
Boot floor/Tool area:
-Tools removed
-Tool tray padded out to reduce movement
-Rubber boot liner added to muffle sounds
Wheel well:
-Battery terminal cover padded with sponge and clamped down
-Battery cables wrapped in microfibre where they meet the bodywork
-Subwoofer checked for movement
-Spare wheel checked for movement
Parcel shelves:
-Felt added to 3x pins on window shelf
-Temporary foam added where window shelf meets seat shelf
To do:
-Check number plate surround for movement
-Adjust boot stops
-Check rear bump stops seated properly (Bulletin 2038689/3)
-Check seatbelt mechanisms
-Check for felt on underside of boot latch hinge
-Add felt to spring back on parcel shelf
-Check if rattles reduced with centre seat down but either side up
-Check rear pillar above speakers
-With seats down check for tailgate movement
-Add felt between rear window and plastic boot inner
-Add felt to rear door latches
-Check with seatbelts engaged
-Add felt to the latch mechanisms in the seats themselves
-Add padding between spare wheel and the boot liner
-Locating pins left in the rear hatch from manufacturer
Front:
-Add felt to centre speaker mount touch points
Any other pointers welcomed! It's not that major to be honest but what I hate most about rattles is that there is a solution, you just have to find it!
Now on 34k, average MPG seems to settle at around 25 for my use across a tank. Getting up to 36 on the motorway (did 370 miles in one go and it was very comfortable and a nice place to be.)
Like:
-Heated & Massaging seats - Don't use the massage that often but it's nice to stretch you on a long journey.
-Performance - Engine and gearbox are a great combo, AWD grip is immense to the point of 1st gear rolling starts in Sport/Dynamic has zero wheelsman even in the wet.
Dislike:
-I find the roofline a little low which is a pain when reaching inside the car to get something out of the armrest, or rear seats for instance. Pretty minor but I'm not tall - it would be really hard if I was.
-Rattles - Overall it's a really solid build and I think am lucky considering some of the stuff I have read. But from the stereo system, I'd like to turn it up a little more and add more bass but I can't without it buzzing the interior. Will dynamat at some point.
-Rear rattles are far worse - I would like to have spent more time on this already but every time I do it rains. Basically I have an interior movement/rattle over harsh bumps. Coupled with the hard suspension it does it quite often and takes away from the otherwise premium feel.
I have taken a load of steps already and have been making a list of solutions of others found online! Overall so far, I think I have realised I had 2 unique noises. The first was the rear seat bench (larger side) had a lot of flex as it doesn't connect to anything in the centre. I have added some foam padding to the back of the seat to pad it out and reduce it. That was a shuffling sort of sound.
The rattle is still eluding me though. Here's what I have done/plan to hit next:
Rear seat bench:
-Felt between seat and plastic pillars
-Felt on metal latches
-Bracing for larger seat portion to reduce movement
Boot floor/Tool area:
-Tools removed
-Tool tray padded out to reduce movement
-Rubber boot liner added to muffle sounds
Wheel well:
-Battery terminal cover padded with sponge and clamped down
-Battery cables wrapped in microfibre where they meet the bodywork
-Subwoofer checked for movement
-Spare wheel checked for movement
Parcel shelves:
-Felt added to 3x pins on window shelf
-Temporary foam added where window shelf meets seat shelf
To do:
-Check number plate surround for movement
-Adjust boot stops
-Check rear bump stops seated properly (Bulletin 2038689/3)
-Check seatbelt mechanisms
-Check for felt on underside of boot latch hinge
-Add felt to spring back on parcel shelf
-Check if rattles reduced with centre seat down but either side up
-Check rear pillar above speakers
-With seats down check for tailgate movement
-Add felt between rear window and plastic boot inner
-Add felt to rear door latches
-Check with seatbelts engaged
-Add felt to the latch mechanisms in the seats themselves
-Add padding between spare wheel and the boot liner
-Locating pins left in the rear hatch from manufacturer
Front:
-Add felt to centre speaker mount touch points
Any other pointers welcomed! It's not that major to be honest but what I hate most about rattles is that there is a solution, you just have to find it!
Edited by joropug on Wednesday 18th January 10:44
Apologies if you'd called it out but it's worth removing the parcel shelf speaker grilles as a troubleshooting option too.
Had a B9 A4 with B&O myself and after countless trips to various dealers, it was never resolved and puts me off getting a B9 S5 sportback which a shame because, as I previously mentioned in this thread, I find them to be a real looker in Navarra Blue and would otherwise love one at some point!
Had a B9 A4 with B&O myself and after countless trips to various dealers, it was never resolved and puts me off getting a B9 S5 sportback which a shame because, as I previously mentioned in this thread, I find them to be a real looker in Navarra Blue and would otherwise love one at some point!
mholt1995 said:
Apologies if you'd called it out but it's worth removing the parcel shelf speaker grilles as a troubleshooting option too.
Had a B9 A4 with B&O myself and after countless trips to various dealers, it was never resolved and puts me off getting a B9 S5 sportback which a shame because, as I previously mentioned in this thread, I find them to be a real looker in Navarra Blue and would otherwise love one at some point!
I've made it sound worse than it is - but I want it to be perfect. Had a B9 A4 with B&O myself and after countless trips to various dealers, it was never resolved and puts me off getting a B9 S5 sportback which a shame because, as I previously mentioned in this thread, I find them to be a real looker in Navarra Blue and would otherwise love one at some point!
There are no speakers in the shelf of the S5 SB - it has 2, smaller shelves that overlap when the boot is shut.
They were/are making noise hitting each other, but it's not the particular noise I'm looking for as I've driven without them in the car many times sadly.
TheLoraxxZeus said:
Nice car. Can you post a video of the exhaust note with the valves open and closed? You bigged it up but never really shared haha.
Autop NL do a great job demonstrating the sound of the car. Much better than I could capture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5SMAbZVhdo
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