2016 Ford Mustang 5.0 GT. Captain Slow's Pony car adventure
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Hardly ideal.
I work for a truck main dealer and there's no way they'd entertain the idea of paying for the work if it's not down to component failure.
If it's only down to wear of the friction plate, you'll be footing the bill. (no pun intended...)
If you pumped the clutch pedal a lot of times did it then make it any easier to try and engage a gear?
Was it an immediate failure with no warnings/signs? If so, it's hardly going to be worn, it could be the master (or more likely slave) cylinder which has failed.
Having said that, I have absolutely zero experience on modern Fords.
Ford are doing their best to sour your ownership experience, aren't they!?
I work for a truck main dealer and there's no way they'd entertain the idea of paying for the work if it's not down to component failure.
If it's only down to wear of the friction plate, you'll be footing the bill. (no pun intended...)
If you pumped the clutch pedal a lot of times did it then make it any easier to try and engage a gear?
Was it an immediate failure with no warnings/signs? If so, it's hardly going to be worn, it could be the master (or more likely slave) cylinder which has failed.
Having said that, I have absolutely zero experience on modern Fords.
Ford are doing their best to sour your ownership experience, aren't they!?
I should hope Ford do not try to suggest that your mods are responsible- after all, in the US at least you can buy a Ford Performance supercharger to give over 650 bhp. Ford don't tell you that will break the transmission, so for them to suggest that your 450bhp was too much for the clutch would be ridiculous.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Rensko said:
Clutch failure sucks!
That said, did you notice it slipping prior to it giving up for an extended period of time, or did it just die coming out of a junction? Sudden failure may potentially point to something else as opposed to the plate having no meat on it whatsoever!
He said it was juddering slightly in the days beforehand.That said, did you notice it slipping prior to it giving up for an extended period of time, or did it just die coming out of a junction? Sudden failure may potentially point to something else as opposed to the plate having no meat on it whatsoever!
mac96 said:
I should hope Ford do not try to suggest that your mods are responsible- after all, in the US at least you can buy a Ford Performance supercharger to give over 650 bhp. Ford don't tell you that will break the transmission, so for them to suggest that your 450bhp was too much for the clutch would be ridiculous.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Thinking on their side of things, if you've chosen to add 30hp under warranty then fair enough, I think you should be expected to stump up the replacement costs. The farse in between is regrettable though. It also doesn't seem to be the most sympathetically driven car in the world either. 
kapiteinlangzaam said:
I managed to speak to someone at Ford NL somewhat higher up the food chain (although in what capacity im not 100% sure) who was already starting down the path of 'we arent covering anything, because you added 30bhp (or an extra 7%) power to the engine'.
I tired explaining the rule about it has to be proven thats its the extra power that has caused the failure, but I dont think it was sinking in. In any case, thats (perhaps) an argument for further down the chain. Cant say im particularly impressed with that attitude, but its also what I expected, truth be told.
The car is homologated with 420hp. Therefore it is very very simple for them to say that by adding 30hp to the car you have gone beyond the tested limits of the components. That power is transmitted directly through that clutch, so it's not unreasonable.I tired explaining the rule about it has to be proven thats its the extra power that has caused the failure, but I dont think it was sinking in. In any case, thats (perhaps) an argument for further down the chain. Cant say im particularly impressed with that attitude, but its also what I expected, truth be told.
Sorry, but I wouldn't warrant it.
The problem with this is that they need only work to principle to leave you stumped. While I have a great deal of sympathy for the general level of service you've had from Ford, modifying a car under warranty is always going to potentially leave you open to this kind of scenario.
Ultimately, I have a feeling that this is going to come down to your powers of persuasion, and your ability to publicise the service sh*tshow you've received to date via the web (owners' forums etc.).
Ultimately, I have a feeling that this is going to come down to your powers of persuasion, and your ability to publicise the service sh*tshow you've received to date via the web (owners' forums etc.).
Bearing in mind that it is for Ford to prove that the damage was caused by the mods, not you to prove that it wasn't, and Fords own selling of performance mods surely implying that transmission could cope with more power, you really should be able to get this agreed under warranty.
Barrier may be warranty staff with poor knowledge on insurance contract law, so I would certainly push back if first answer is 'no'.
Of course if it were not too expensive you might feel it's not worth too much of a fight!
Barrier may be warranty staff with poor knowledge on insurance contract law, so I would certainly push back if first answer is 'no'.
Of course if it were not too expensive you might feel it's not worth too much of a fight!
mac96 said:
Bearing in mind that it is for Ford to prove that the damage was caused by the mods, not you to prove that it wasn't, and Fords own selling of performance mods surely implying that transmission could cope with more power
That's not how warranties work.Best of luck, OP. That seems almost certainly like a manufacturing defect - clutch material doesn't just part company from the plate. Hopefully dealing with the UK arm will somehow play in your favour.
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