A shed of a 1972 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

[Slow]

fatbutt said:

The biggest issue was taking the front suspension springs out as you need a special tool. I made mine...

How do you mean you need a special tool?

Does it not just unbolt the strut at the top then it all comes down as 1 piece?

Currently I see 2x strut, the 4 subframe bolts mentioned and disconnect the prop + steering rack to get it down? Obviously theres all the smaller connections for pedals/shifter etc.

[fatbutt]

Slow said:

How do you mean you need a special tool?

Does it not just unbolt the strut at the top then it all comes down as 1 piece?

Currently I see 2x strut, the 4 subframe bolts mentioned and disconnect the prop + steering rack to get it down? Obviously theres all the smaller connections for pedals/shifter etc.

The coils go up into the bodywork so you can't compress the spring using usual methods. There is a RR tool that is basically four threaded rods that go down through the cap on the top and secure to the bottom of the coil. You take up the slack then unbolt the caps. Then unscrew the nuts so the caps slowly release the tension. Its a pain in the arse to be honest. The first time I did one I didn't take up enough slack and the caps came off with a bang. I made my own tool using threaded rod I had in the garage.

When I get home later I'll send you some pics and links to the where I downloaded the workshop manual from (its 2000+ pages).

[Slow]

fatbutt said:

Slow said:

How do you mean you need a special tool?

Does it not just unbolt the strut at the top then it all comes down as 1 piece?

Currently I see 2x strut, the 4 subframe bolts mentioned and disconnect the prop + steering rack to get it down? Obviously theres all the smaller connections for pedals/shifter etc.

The coils go up into the bodywork so you can't compress the spring using usual methods. There is a RR tool that is basically four threaded rods that go down through the cap on the top and secure to the bottom of the coil. You take up the slack then unbolt the caps. Then unscrew the nuts so the caps slowly release the tension. Its a pain in the arse to be honest. The first time I did one I didn't take up enough slack and the caps came off with a bang. I made my own tool using threaded rod I had in the garage.

When I get home later I'll send you some pics and links to the where I downloaded the workshop manual from (its 2000+ pages).

Oh I was thinking because I would be dropping the subframe I could just unbolt the struts from the towers last as there wouldnt be any compression but it sounds like there is no top nut and the top of the strut acts as it.

[fatbutt]

Link to the workshop manual download site (free!): http://rrtechnical.info/sy/04_sy

[braddo]

fatbutt said:

Been there, done that. https://youtu.be/j6hcBUSIV-0

Wouldnt recommend it.

Pinched this from a poster on another thread

[fatbutt]

The front subframe is secured by four bolts but the coils are under compression against the bodywork. Its a big tensioned arrangement - don't just unbolt the subframe as the coils won't have anything to hold them back!

[fatbutt]

The tools RR recommend.

[Slow]

fatbutt said:

The front subframe is secured by four bolts but the coils are under compression against the bodywork. Its a big tensioned arrangement - don't just unbolt the subframe as the coils won't have anything to hold them back!

So if I was to put a jack or two holding up the subframe, undo the 4 bolts and slowly lower it down it would take away the compression of the springs off the body?

Or resting subframe on axle stands then unbolting to then lift the car off the subframe using the hoist to slowly remove the compression.

Only found 1 link to the compressor and at $225 coming from abroad it seems easier to be a rough arse to get them out.

[fatbutt]

Slow said:

So if I was to put a jack or two holding up the subframe, undo the 4 bolts and slowly lower it down it would take away the compression of the springs off the body?

Or resting subframe on axle stands then unbolting to then lift the car off the subframe using the hoist to slowly remove the compression.

Only found 1 link to the compressor and at $225 coming from abroad it seems easier to be a rough arse to get them out.

Of the two I'd say lift the car rather than lower the jacks. The coils are large so its a big force; better using the body than a jack just in case something goes wrong.

[Huntsman]

You can hire the tools from RREC and I think Flying Spares too.

Be carefully.

Kelly at https://www.britishtoolworks.com/ is a great help.

[Slow]

Huntsman said:

You can hire the tools from RREC and I think Flying Spares too.

Be carefully.

Kelly at https://www.britishtoolworks.com/ is a great help.

I couldnt find it on flyingspares, they only linked the retaining thing for £400 or so and not the compressor. I know its a Rolls Royce but it is just springs and the prices seem madness.

https://www.britishtoolworks.com/product-page/fron...

Is the one for 225 from abroad.

[Slow]

When lifting the front are they attached to the bumper mounting points at the front?

My car is abit crusty so not too sure how strong they are.

[fatbutt]

Slow said:

When lifting the front are they attached to the bumper mounting points at the front?

My car is abit crusty so not too sure how strong they are.

Yeah, that's what I used. Mine were pretty good structurally speaking and they're massive for what they do.

[Slow]

Done a thing.

Will use a telehandler tomorrow to lift the front then feed a rope under it to use a car to pull engine/subframe/gearbox forward. With the engine hoist the legs get in the way for moving it all by hand.

[fatbutt]

Slow said:

Done a thing.

Will use a telehandler tomorrow to lift the front then feed a rope under it to use a car to pull engine/subframe/gearbox forward. With the engine hoist the legs get in the way for moving it all by hand.

Superb! Congratulations, it's a pig of a job. 🤪

[Digby]

Looking good mate

[Dont like rolls]

Dedication, impressive.

[Huntsman]

Slow said:

Crumbs. Slow. There's a lot of rot in your car.

What is the plan for it?

[Slow]

Cutting the entire floor out and wide arche. Bit different and should take quite a while, not in a rush and wanted something to be my own.

I have a e65 745i ready to donate front/rear subframes, engine gearbox and basically everything. It’s 2” shorter, 30cm wider at the outside edge of wheels (hence wide arch) and weight is roughly the same so standard arms/suspension should deal with the weight ok.

I had a link to the build on YouTube but mods removed it due to advertising or something. If you were so inclined to follow it a simple rolls Royce e65 search should find it

[Biker's Nemesis]

Slow said:

Cutting the entire floor out and wide arche. Bit different and should take quite a while, not in a rush and wanted something to be my own.

I have a e65 745i ready to donate front/rear subframes, engine gearbox and basically everything. It’s 2” shorter, 30cm wider at the outside edge of wheels (hence wide arch) and weight is roughly the same so standard arms/suspension should deal with the weight ok.

I had a link to the build on YouTube but mods removed it due to advertising or something. If you were so inclined to follow it a simple rolls Royce e65 search should find it

Nice one.