500+bhp Mk3 Fiesta Project
Discussion
You should add inner door deadening, then add a suitable protective foam cover over the entire back of the drivers. The inner door WILL get wet and destroy your speakers over time. The way to do this is push the large (over size) foam square into the hole, then screw the baffle on top, remove excess foam around the baffle, then mount the driver. That way no element of the driver is directly exposed to the inner door. But air will still breath through the foam.
k-ink said:
You should add inner door deadening, then add a suitable protective foam cover over the entire back of the drivers. The inner door WILL get wet and destroy your speakers over time. The way to do this is push the large (over size) foam square into the hole, then screw the baffle on top, remove excess foam around the baffle, then mount the driver. That way no element of the driver is directly exposed to the inner door. But air will still breath through the foam.
Thank you. The inner doors will be sealed and vibration damped with a layer of deadening felt on top. I must admit I was a little concerned about moisture on the back of the speakers so I will take your advice.mwstewart said:
Thank you. The inner doors will be sealed and vibration damped with a layer of deadening felt on top. I must admit I was a little concerned about moisture on the back of the speakers so I will take your advice.
I suspect these like many doors are what they call the wet type, meaning water is allowed into the shell, and drained at the bottom. To make a door fully water proof, costs money, so felt seals etc are purposefully allowed to let a little water by, and a door membrane keeps the inner shell dry, that's how your speakers could be damaged, better to add a deflector, and keep then from getting wet.K
warmfuzzies said:
I suspect these like many doors are what they call the wet type, meaning water is allowed into the shell, and drained at the bottom. To make a door fully water proof, costs money, so felt seals etc are purposefully allowed to let a little water by, and a door membrane keeps the inner shell dry, that's how your speakers could be damaged, better to add a deflector, and keep then from getting wet.
K
Thanks K. You are right: they are wet doors. I have some new membranes to go back on once the inner door has been vibration damped, and for the speakers I just found these on eBay:K
I think I will cut off the bottom half to leave a hood for the speakers.
k-ink said:
You should leave the back on! That is the point. The material should allow the air the vent through it yet remain largely splash proof.
The material is closed cell foam unfortunately, so the drivers won't work correctly if it is left uncut. I might see if I can compromise somehow.I've riveted the one touch relays to the inside of the doors. I'm now about finished with the doors so can look to getting the cards back on.
Boot Floor Battery Box
My Dad put his Architectural skills to good use
by drawing up a template and creating this card model of the boot battery box.
In situ. I can now de-construct the model to create a cutting template for Aluminium sheet.
Golf Armrest
I wanted an armrest of some kind because I'm both used to them and because they are good places for an iPod dock. I looked at several armrests from the VAG range of cars as I like their designs the most, and eventually settled on the Golf Mk4 item which was dimensionally most suited to the Fiesta.
The first step was to modify the armrest bracket to suit the Fiesta. This was to be the first time I'd welded alloy, so it was pure Argon at the ready together with a spool gun for my MIG welder.
This photo shows the spool gun, and in the top left hand corner is the Golf lower bracket which I cut up to begin modifying.
This was the best I came up with. I think it's OK given this is a MIG welder and the base alloy is cast, so has impurities, and I was also using 5356 wire when ideally I should have used 4043 to match the silicone content in the Golf bracket.
I cleaned up the worst welds with a file, and here's the finished result. Increased height and a smaller footprint to match the Fiesta exhaust tunnel.
Armrest carcass test fit.
I sent the lid to Aldridge to be covered in matching leather. I also drew a small diagram to illustrate some stitching detail that matches all of the seat bases, and Karen copied it perfectly.
Test fit and I'm happy. I shall tweak the inside seat bolsters slightly to provide a little more clearance for the armrest.
NB White balance is out in the above photo thanks to mobile phone camera. I keep forgetting to take my SLR when I work on the car.
The closest plastic colour trim in the Golf is black, so I've ordered some specialist trim paint from America which is colour matched to the 'Midnight Black' trim in the Fiesta. I can then build up the armrest and create a filler piece for the Focus centre console.
Boot Floor Battery Box
My Dad put his Architectural skills to good use
by drawing up a template and creating this card model of the boot battery box.In situ. I can now de-construct the model to create a cutting template for Aluminium sheet.
Golf Armrest
I wanted an armrest of some kind because I'm both used to them and because they are good places for an iPod dock. I looked at several armrests from the VAG range of cars as I like their designs the most, and eventually settled on the Golf Mk4 item which was dimensionally most suited to the Fiesta.
The first step was to modify the armrest bracket to suit the Fiesta. This was to be the first time I'd welded alloy, so it was pure Argon at the ready together with a spool gun for my MIG welder.
This photo shows the spool gun, and in the top left hand corner is the Golf lower bracket which I cut up to begin modifying.
This was the best I came up with. I think it's OK given this is a MIG welder and the base alloy is cast, so has impurities, and I was also using 5356 wire when ideally I should have used 4043 to match the silicone content in the Golf bracket.
I cleaned up the worst welds with a file, and here's the finished result. Increased height and a smaller footprint to match the Fiesta exhaust tunnel.
Armrest carcass test fit.
I sent the lid to Aldridge to be covered in matching leather. I also drew a small diagram to illustrate some stitching detail that matches all of the seat bases, and Karen copied it perfectly.
Test fit and I'm happy. I shall tweak the inside seat bolsters slightly to provide a little more clearance for the armrest.
NB White balance is out in the above photo thanks to mobile phone camera. I keep forgetting to take my SLR when I work on the car.
The closest plastic colour trim in the Golf is black, so I've ordered some specialist trim paint from America which is colour matched to the 'Midnight Black' trim in the Fiesta. I can then build up the armrest and create a filler piece for the Focus centre console.
sc4589 said:
I'm surprised you went for the Golf armrest, I've never been a fan of them- to the point where I actually removed mine because it pissed me off so much. I found it too high. Good luck to you though.
Glad to see this coming along. Top stuff.
Not to mention it was always over the handbrake and made changing gear hard...Glad to see this coming along. Top stuff.
I actually think it will work better in the Fiesta than in the Golf!
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