Peugeot 205 XR
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The valves for £30 was one side, but there were other sets around that price on eBay. There are sets of cylinder head bolts at £20 too.
Once the head is off get the mating surface checked by a garage or head specialist? It's ingested a screw rather than overheating and breaking the head gasket seal so may not need checking.
If I had a TVR and a girlfriend I'd probably get shot of it, but then I am the person who didn't learn as a youngster and sheared the tops off of a cam cover bolt and breaks things trying to get access to a battery to get it out to charge it.
Once the head is off get the mating surface checked by a garage or head specialist? It's ingested a screw rather than overheating and breaking the head gasket seal so may not need checking.
If I had a TVR and a girlfriend I'd probably get shot of it, but then I am the person who didn't learn as a youngster and sheared the tops off of a cam cover bolt and breaks things trying to get access to a battery to get it out to charge it.
£40 for gaskets and cylinder head bolts:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114793176534?fits=Car+M...
Place in Farnham resurfacing cylinder heads for £50:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263690136155?hash=item3...4MAAOSwr-Bb4y5X
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114793176534?fits=Car+M...
Place in Farnham resurfacing cylinder heads for £50:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263690136155?hash=item3...4MAAOSwr-Bb4y5X
Twenty odd years ago I wasn't brave enough to rebuild the engine on my 205 XS so I sourced a replacement engine and swapped it over. Wasn't too difficult and was done over the course of a weekend on the driveway.
A few years later the wife and I did the valve stem seals and head gasket on her 106 XSI (basically the same engine) and although it was a bit more involved than the engine swap, the Haynes BOL provided the basics and the rest we figured out as we went along. Again, a weekends worth of work and it was sorted and running better than ever.
In summary, these are not complicated engines. Removing one is not a difficult task as long as you are systematic in your approach (it's essentially a case of removing a few pipes, wires and bolts!). And even a top end rebuild is doable for an amateur mechanic, especially as you now have experience of the cambelt.
A few years later the wife and I did the valve stem seals and head gasket on her 106 XSI (basically the same engine) and although it was a bit more involved than the engine swap, the Haynes BOL provided the basics and the rest we figured out as we went along. Again, a weekends worth of work and it was sorted and running better than ever.
In summary, these are not complicated engines. Removing one is not a difficult task as long as you are systematic in your approach (it's essentially a case of removing a few pipes, wires and bolts!). And even a top end rebuild is doable for an amateur mechanic, especially as you now have experience of the cambelt.
Another vote to go for it here! Between thiscocks' thread on the AX Sport and mine, there are plenty of photos of TU1 and TU3 engines in pieces for reference!
I'd never done anything quite so involved before this year when a head gasket repair turned into a full head fettling session!
I'd never done anything quite so involved before this year when a head gasket repair turned into a full head fettling session!
So something else to ponder. On the advice of someone on another forum, I put a drop of oil down Cylinder 3 and re-ran the test. Improved to 11.2 bar.
Seems to suggest that bore or piston wear is the cause rather than a bent valve - http://www.peugeot205.ru/peugeot205-43.html.
Does this change the prognosis?
Seems to suggest that bore or piston wear is the cause rather than a bent valve - http://www.peugeot205.ru/peugeot205-43.html.
Does this change the prognosis?
It does run!
http://imgur.com/gallery/e3YqfWR
There was a definite rattle on start up and a slight thrum of an odd noise in the background after a minute or so.
http://imgur.com/gallery/e3YqfWR
There was a definite rattle on start up and a slight thrum of an odd noise in the background after a minute or so.
?So I decided to get it off my drive and take it for a spin.
At first I wondered what on earth I'd broke, it was making some very odd noises at low speeds. Turns out front wheel bolts were only finger tight ... :O
After that ... it drove beautifully. Still won't idle with the choke fully in - almost - but hopefully it just needs adjusted. It felt sprightlier than I remembered pre-carb rebuild, didn't stall, gearbox snickety smooth with the new gearbox oil and driveshafts, suspension lovely and compliant over speed bumps, such a shame I broke it (or almost broke it....?!?!?!).
When hot the exhaust wasn't smoking, but there was certainly a 'thrum' (if that's the word) from the engine, almost like a very quiet intermittent backfire maybe, not experienced enough to know exactly what the noise is.
See if you can hear it in this video - http://imgur.com/gallery/dW2aZMH
Almost tempted to take it into the office tomorrow to see what's what, but breaking down in the Blackwall Tunnel would be less than ideal, and knowing my luck ...
Oh one minor problem - my bodge driver seat fix doesn't let the seat go fully forward. If you were shorter than me you'd struggle to drive it. Is that an MOT fail ...?
?
At first I wondered what on earth I'd broke, it was making some very odd noises at low speeds. Turns out front wheel bolts were only finger tight ... :O
After that ... it drove beautifully. Still won't idle with the choke fully in - almost - but hopefully it just needs adjusted. It felt sprightlier than I remembered pre-carb rebuild, didn't stall, gearbox snickety smooth with the new gearbox oil and driveshafts, suspension lovely and compliant over speed bumps, such a shame I broke it (or almost broke it....?!?!?!).
When hot the exhaust wasn't smoking, but there was certainly a 'thrum' (if that's the word) from the engine, almost like a very quiet intermittent backfire maybe, not experienced enough to know exactly what the noise is.
See if you can hear it in this video - http://imgur.com/gallery/dW2aZMH
Almost tempted to take it into the office tomorrow to see what's what, but breaking down in the Blackwall Tunnel would be less than ideal, and knowing my luck ...
Oh one minor problem - my bodge driver seat fix doesn't let the seat go fully forward. If you were shorter than me you'd struggle to drive it. Is that an MOT fail ...?
?
Edited by Cascade360 on Thursday 2nd September 17:28
?So I decided to get it off my drive and take it for a spin.
At first I wondered what on earth I'd broke, it was making some very odd noises at low speeds. Turns out front wheel bolts were only finger tight ... ??
After that ... it drove beautifully. Still won't idle with the choke fully in - almost - but hopefully it just needs adjusted. It felt sprightlier than I remembered pre-carb rebuild, didn't stall, gearbox snickety smooth with the new gearbox oil and driveshafts, suspension lovely and compliant over speed bumps, such a shame I broke it (or almost broke it....?!?!?!).
When hot the exhaust wasn't smoking, but there was certainly a 'thrum' (if that's the word) from the engine, almost like a very quiet intermittent backfire maybe, not experienced enough to know exactly what the noise is.
See if you can hear it in this video - http://imgur.com/gallery/PFUGZBm
Almost tempted to take it into the office tomorrow to see what's what, but breaking down in the Blackwall Tunnel would be less than ideal, and knowing my luck ...
Oh one minor problem - my bodge driver seat fix doesn't let the seat go fully forward. If you were shorter than me you'd struggle to drive it. Is that an MOT fail ...?
?
At first I wondered what on earth I'd broke, it was making some very odd noises at low speeds. Turns out front wheel bolts were only finger tight ... ??
After that ... it drove beautifully. Still won't idle with the choke fully in - almost - but hopefully it just needs adjusted. It felt sprightlier than I remembered pre-carb rebuild, didn't stall, gearbox snickety smooth with the new gearbox oil and driveshafts, suspension lovely and compliant over speed bumps, such a shame I broke it (or almost broke it....?!?!?!).
When hot the exhaust wasn't smoking, but there was certainly a 'thrum' (if that's the word) from the engine, almost like a very quiet intermittent backfire maybe, not experienced enough to know exactly what the noise is.
See if you can hear it in this video - http://imgur.com/gallery/PFUGZBm
Almost tempted to take it into the office tomorrow to see what's what, but breaking down in the Blackwall Tunnel would be less than ideal, and knowing my luck ...
Oh one minor problem - my bodge driver seat fix doesn't let the seat go fully forward. If you were shorter than me you'd struggle to drive it. Is that an MOT fail ...?
?
Edited by Cascade360 on Thursday 2nd September 17:32
Took it out for a slightly longer spin, bit of dual carriageway, caught in traffic for fifteen minutes. Drives fine. Certainly doesn't seem to be any loss of power - in fact it is a positively nippy little car. It still doesn't idle with the choke in - the problem I was having before I rebuilt the carb - but I haven't properly set it up since so perhaps it just needs adjustment. It is hard to tell if it is running okay if idling with the choke partially out though ...
Turns out that i have the same problem as before i rebuilt the carb - crack the idle jet open a fraction and it runs well. Ordered a new idle jet to see if that sorts it.
But im very happy it is now running and driving well! Not sure the noise i thought i heard is still there or not, sounds fine now. Sprightly little thing, had it out and about a bit locally today; time to get some miles under its belt!
Making my street look like its the early noughties again!
But im very happy it is now running and driving well! Not sure the noise i thought i heard is still there or not, sounds fine now. Sprightly little thing, had it out and about a bit locally today; time to get some miles under its belt!
Making my street look like its the early noughties again!
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