2manycarz Garage

[anonymous-user]

Yoosed n uglee, innit.

[p1stonhead]

The Rotrex Kid said:

p1stonhead said:

Petrus1983 said:

Norbury90 said:

anonymous said:

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I'm following this too. Similar cars in the classifieds seem to be up for 700k ish, this one is only at 530k and finishes tonight... that's a big difference! Will be interesting to see what happens.

Ended at £611k inc fees - major price adjustment is needed for any on the market elsewhere.

Holy crap that seems cheap.

Seems literally no mclarens can hold their value.

£200k loss on list in 3 years to drive 900 miles. Nice

Indeed. And clearly done no miles on the hope of it being an investment. Ouch.

[Doofus]

p1stonhead said:

Indeed. And clearly done no miles on the hope of it being an investment. Ouch.

Or, done no miles because he realised he looked like a prize berk driving it, and felt £200k was a good price to pay to get his self-respect back.

[Beefmeister]

The Rotrex Kid said:

£200k loss on list in 3 years to drive 900 miles. Nice

Over £200 per mile. fk me

[The Rotrex Kid]

Beefmeister said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

£200k loss on list in 3 years to drive 900 miles. Nice

Over £200 per mile. fk me

Without counting the servicing, fuel, tax and insurance

Bonkers

[Petrus1983]

The Rotrex Kid said:

Beefmeister said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

£200k loss on list in 3 years to drive 900 miles. Nice

Over £200 per mile. fk me

Without counting the servicing, fuel, tax and insurance

Bonkers

Very basic maths but think it’s around £260 per mile with the extras.

[Wonderman]

p1stonhead said:

Holy crap that seems cheap.

Seems literally no mclarens can hold their value.

P1?

[anonymous-user]

F1.

[DanG355]

Petrus1983 said:

Very basic maths but think it’s around £260 per mile with the extras.

I know of an early Senna that was flipped for £1.5m as soon as it was delivered (Motor Trader middle man with a customer who really wanted one) - imagine the loss on that!!

[Petrus1983]

DanG355 said:

Petrus1983 said:

Very basic maths but think it’s around £260 per mile with the extras.

I know of an early Senna that was flipped for £1.5m as soon as it was delivered (Motor Trader middle man with a customer who really wanted one) - imagine the loss on that!!

My calculator doesn’t have a big enough screen

[QuartzDad]

Petrus1983 said:

Very basic maths but think it’s around £260 per mile with the extras.

Bentley: hold my beer. £3000 per mile.

[SpeckledJim]

Petrus1983 said:

DanG355 said:

Petrus1983 said:

Very basic maths but think it’s around £260 per mile with the extras.

I know of an early Senna that was flipped for £1.5m as soon as it was delivered (Motor Trader middle man with a customer who really wanted one) - imagine the loss on that!!

My calculator doesn’t have a big enough screen

Might be the case that, as with the F1, these guys sitting on a big paper loss at the moment just need to plan on holding onto the cars for 20 years.

They may yet have the last laugh.

[WCZ]

some classic ferraris depreciate at a stupid amount if they're low miles, Iirc I calculated it to be £30-40k for a trip to london from manchester and back in an f40

[SpeckledJim]

WCZ said:

some classic ferraris depreciate at a stupid amount if they're low miles, Iirc I calculated it to be £30-40k for a trip to london from manchester and back in an f40

Call me cynical but I think some (many) Ferrari owners may have found a 'work-around' to that troublesome little issue...

[Mezzanine]

SpeckledJim said:

Call me cynical but I think some (many) Ferrari owners may have found a 'work-around' to that troublesome little issue...

Woah woah woah.

Are you saying some (many) of these Ferrari owners have taken an HGV licence course and purchased themselves a commercial spec low loader???

[DanG355]

SpeckledJim said:

Might be the case that, as with the F1, these guys sitting on a big paper loss at the moment just need to plan on holding onto the cars for 20 years.

They may yet have the last laugh.

You might be right! With such limited numbers they will bounce up one day as long as petrol is still available. May take 10-15 years though. This is the one that was flipped for £1.5m - very black...

[Petrus1983]

anonymous said:

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I met someone one who briefly owned an F1 - he said the best day of his life was being allocated one, yet the worst day was the phone call needing the final payment before delivery. He was a property guy and the whole world had changed between order and delivery. When I spent some time with him in 2003 he didn’t have it, but I don’t know what did happen.

[deadscoob]

Its Just Adz said:

When I drove several. Just felt overly heavy and lazy, really "wallowy", wouldn't have guessed it had the brilliant m5 engine.
Plus don't like the styling.

Wasn’t that in part some of the original criticism? It looked like a sports car, had an engine good enough for a sports cars, but dynamics setup for its largest intended market the US, so was a bit of a floaty cruiser?

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[SpeckledJim]

Petrus1983 said:

anonymous said:

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I met someone one who briefly owned an F1 - he said the best day of his life was being allocated one, yet the worst day was the phone call needing the final payment before delivery. He was a property guy and the whole world had changed between order and delivery. When I spent some time with him in 2003 he didn’t have it, but I don’t know what did happen.

One of those things where accidental timing can have a lot more influence on the result than skill and intuition.

Owning an F1 could have been either bankrupting, or something that sets up your whole family literally for generations.

Exact same car, just a question of timing.

[PushedDover]

deadscoob said:

Its Just Adz said:

When I drove several. Just felt overly heavy and lazy, really "wallowy", wouldn't have guessed it had the brilliant m5 engine.
Plus don't like the styling.

Wasn’t that in part some of the original criticism? It looked like a sports car, had an engine good enough for a sports cars, but dynamics setup for its largest intended market the US, so was a bit of a floaty cruiser?

_

It was the manual wasnt it ?
And I recall the praise heaped on the Alpina version that made a better marriage of the components and Auto too