Jaguar xjc 4.2

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RobXjcoupe

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93 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Yes those studs will be replaced. They are not modern stretch one use only but they are not perfect. I’ve managed to find a new set for a Daimler ds or the queen mother cars lol. Prices for those cars are low so spares are sold at keener prices. Same engine though.

RobXjcoupe

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Tuesday 26th October 2021
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A few pictures of the engine again. Cylinder bores cleaned up nicely. Block I’ve been prepping for a new coat of paint. Sump and timing cover off. Sump cleaned up quickly, no nasties found, sump baffle cleaned up nicely also. Just waiting for delivery of paint, gaskets and new head bolts.

carinaman

21,425 posts

174 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Interesting engine shots.

RobXjcoupe

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Tuesday 26th October 2021
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carinaman said:
Interesting engine shots.
I just like to show what is currently being worked on. Any problems I share, so someone else can get to it straight away if experiencing the same.
These engines are quite expensive to rebuild now. So I think the pictures show how relatively easy the build is if you have a bit of time and patience.

DuncanM

6,225 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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You take great pictures, quite artistic and pleasing to the eye.

Love seeing the progress.

Retro_Jim

389 posts

53 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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I'm just catching up on your work Rob, it's looking excellent! I'm interested to see the engine go together, with regards to the head studs would a cold coating like gunsmiths blueing help resist corrosion without having to heat the studs and oil quenching and risk warping?


RobXjcoupe

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Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Retro_Jim said:
I'm just catching up on your work Rob, it's looking excellent! I'm interested to see the engine go together, with regards to the head studs would a cold coating like gunsmiths blueing help resist corrosion without having to heat the studs and oil quenching and risk warping?
Thank you
I had thought of possible different coatings but recently I was given a genuine Jaguar service and maintenance manual. Interesting part of the coolant mixture is Barr’s corrosion inhibitor and 40% mix of antifreeze to water. Which I thought was quite high but the head studs are within the water jacket. So get rid of the oxygen and technically the head bolts won’t corrode. I would imagine that was Jaguars solution to combat the corrosion on the head studs. The Barr’s corrosion inhibitor was a yearly service item also. So with that knowledge and new head bolts I think that’s the way forward regarding that part of the engine rebuild.
Today the bottom end gaskets arrived and part of those are new rear crank oil seals which are for the best part made of rope. I wasn’t going to remove the crank but now I’ve seen the rope seals I think it would be prudent to change them seeing as I’m about 12 bolts away.
So more dismantling engine pictures soon. Timings are an issue though as I’ve currently got the engine in the college workshop during half term. Ideally I’d do all the mechanical work before painting the block but as students will be back next week I need to get the block painted and dry before removing the crank. Then hide it out the way with a cover until I can work on it during the evenings once the students have gone home. Sounds like a plan smile

Mikeeb

411 posts

120 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Rob you can change the rope seal for a modern lip seal. It does require the crank to be machined but far less chance of a leak.

RobXjcoupe

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Thursday 28th October 2021
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Mikeeb said:
Rob you can change the rope seal for a modern lip seal. It does require the crank to be machined but far less chance of a leak.
I’ve seen that mod. Rather expensive I thought. The crank grinding is a fair amount of material as well. I have use of a cylindrical grinder at the college but there policy is no coolant as it’s for demo purpose only. Coolant is possible though if I go via a cnc machine smile, anyhow once the crank is out I’ll have a proper measure and double check I can get the part on the grinder as this crank is rather long. That said of all the previous engine work/gearbox swaps, it’s never had a leaky rear crank seal. Tough one.

RobXjcoupe

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Thursday 28th October 2021
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So this mornings hard work getting those last 12 bolts out and removing the incredibly heavy crankshaft!

RobXjcoupe

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Thursday 28th October 2021
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The above picture shows the area where the rope crank seal is. To do the modification I need to grind a diameter smaller than the bearing journal. Now that isn’t a good thing. More so as I’m using a manual gearbox with a heavy flywheel which will be thumped each time via the clutch when changing gear. Original rope type seal will stay.

RobXjcoupe

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Thursday 28th October 2021
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Block back on the stand ready for paint. Above before paint. Below with new coat of high temp satin black



Next week I’ll start rebuilding with new gaskets and seals complete with head, cams, carbs and rocker covers.

RobXjcoupe

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Thursday 28th October 2021
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Back to the rear crank seal. Done a bit of research. It seems leaks from newly fitted seals is due to bad procedure.
More interesting is a tool is needed to size the new seal but via the last bearing cap to ensure its in line with the crank centreline.
The Jaguar service manual also states each engine will be different. So the generic modification of fitting a modern rubber seal wouldn’t really work.
Below I found a dimensioned drawing of the tool needed to size the rope seal. I’ll double check the dimensions with the diameters on my crank and main bearing holder. The later has the bearing shells removed to use the tool.


RobXjcoupe

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Friday 29th October 2021
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So yesterday was engine building or rather dismantling and today was upholstery



Bobberoo

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100 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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A man of many talents!!!

RobXjcoupe

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Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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Managed to machine the sizing tool needed for the rear crank seal. I won’t bore it out. It will have its handle hole to allow me to twist it as it sizes the new seal.

DuncanM

6,225 posts

281 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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Great skills on display, love it.

RobXjcoupe

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Friday 12th November 2021
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I finally found the correct assembly stuff according to the Jaguar maintenance manual to fit the new rope seal for the crank shaft. I have a couple of hours Monday morning in the college workshop with no students around. Perfect to start reassembling the engine smile

carinaman

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174 months

Friday 12th November 2021
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The last time I saw an XK block was in an educational establishment.

RobXjcoupe

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Monday 15th November 2021
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Pictures below of the new rear crank seal. I need to do another as you can see the ingress of the graphite grease where the two halves meet. Just shows how easy to fit incorrectly.




The last picture is probably ok but all the others would leak oil.
So order another and try again next week