R8 Rover 216 GTI sohc

R8 Rover 216 GTI sohc

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squareflops

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1,822 posts

185 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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all help and advice greatly appreciated dude biggrin

Yes that's them, Moto Build Racing, although I did have to check! Slightly confusing

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

85 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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squareflops said:
I'm currently fighting the urge to not buy a Pioneer head unit as I have my bathroom to pay for, a £670 tax bill in Jan and potetially two holidays next year curse
FM Transmitter with USB and AUX input:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TRIXES-MP3-Audio-Player-R...

Mr Teddy Bear

186 posts

193 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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There is a 'purist' school of thought within the club that frowns on sticking a modern stereo into the glorious R8 dash!

squareflops

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1,822 posts

185 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Not a bad shout aaron, I'll probably just get the Pioneer though

I thought about going back to the standard HU but then thought - why tho laugh I would like the period radio for retro coolness but I do like my sounds, this is the unit I'll likely get

https://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-pioneer...

The existing head unit is actually period correct aftermarket I'd say! When did you last see a goodmans replete with old school dancing eq bars cloud9

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Untitled by Kaeser Devon, on Flickr

Untitled by Kaeser Devon, on Flickr

It's awful though, as you'd expect, can't pick up any radio stations and it shows the speakers in the car are horrendous also. Will all be changed in the next few months.

Shame about the headlining too, sure this can fixed easily enough though

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Car doesn't smell of smoke so not sure what the discoloration is but will be sorted soon too

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

85 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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squareflops said:
Shame about the headlining too, sure this can fixed easily enough though

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Car doesn't smell of smoke so not sure what the discoloration is but will be sorted soon too
Probably from a leaky sunroof

TheRainMaker

6,380 posts

244 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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aaron_2000 said:
squareflops said:
Shame about the headlining too, sure this can fixed easily enough though

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Car doesn't smell of smoke so not sure what the discoloration is but will be sorted soon too
Probably from a leaky sunroof
Hmmmm, looks like rust, pop the sun roof open and look in from the top. Probably want to get onto that, once it goes round there you could be in trouble 😕

squareflops

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1,822 posts

185 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Could potentially. On that topic I thought I'd pop out quickly and take a few pictures of the areas that need attention, re the sunroof; not sure if this area is symptomatic of the issue and this will be a screen out job to repair properly, £200 quoted by the body shop I'll most likely be using

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and the other areas, front OS wing

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front OS lower wing/sill

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rear OS lower arch

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rear NS lower arch is fine to the naked eye.

front NS lower wing

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and the bonnet of course which we've already seen. I'm still getting lowering springs first though laughrolleyes

LanceRS

2,175 posts

139 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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If it’s MotoBuild in Hounslow, they were the biggest name in Rover modifying and racing back in the day.
I can remember these from my youth and I managed to get my mother into a 216 coupe in 1997. A really nice car, much better than the 220 that replaced it.
On the subject of the bonnet, are you after the one with the bulge or without?
Anyway good luck with your mission.

squareflops

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1,822 posts

185 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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I believe that's them yes Lance, I did have a very reassuring chat with the guy there and feel comfortable dealing with them, he did say they'd been around Rovers for years and supplied a lot of aftermarket parks for them.

Well to stay pure to the sohc a non bulge bonnet ideally but as obtaining the correct (silver) bonnet is proving very difficult I'd take either, will just have to be like the Saph Cosworth boys who all drove around with 4X4 bonnets on if it comes to it.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

85 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Good video on MotoBuild here, should give you some confidence. Skip to 1:34 to get straight to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYB0TOVMjiU

Pacman1978

394 posts

105 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Used to love these shape rovers, always wanted a 420gsi, shape just feels "right" would definitely have a big 820/827 or sterling in lotto win collection. Miss the days when big saloons like Granadas and senators were a common sight.

squareflops

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1,822 posts

185 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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My dad had an auto nightfire red 827 sterling saloon with tan leather interior when I was 13ish I think. I remember it being massively luxurious and very quick, can still remember him taking me out down the bypass in it when he first got it, using the kick down and taking off, probably not quick even then but to me it was a rocket ship. Great times..

Oh and one of my first cars was also his hand-me-down 2.0 GL Carlton hehe thinking back that's the car I actually learned to go sideways in! (well sort of..)

chrismc1977

854 posts

114 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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The Honda link is what made these R8 Rovers decent

For the ultimate Q car then it has to be the equivalent Honda Concerto 1.6i-16. This used the same D16A9 (non Cat) motor as the 216/416GTi’s. The later A8 engines had the cat & felt a bit flat in comparison

The A9 was a 130bhp twin cam 1600- revvy, quick. Same engine used in the contemporary CRX’s & EF Civics.

The Rovers has their own racing series here in the UK back in the early 90’s. Still see the old race cars come up for sale every now & then- would make for a fabulous track car on a minimal budget. Caged & with a decent suspension setup of course...

JonnyVTEC

3,015 posts

177 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I put a twin cam in my Coupe, then wanted a bit more so swapped in a B16 out of a CRZ SiR.

Great car, loads of memories!

squareflops

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1,822 posts

185 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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chrismc1977 said:
The Honda link is what made these R8 Rovers decent

The A9 was a 130bhp twin cam 1600- revvy, quick. Same engine used in the contemporary CRX’s & EF Civics.

The Rovers has their own racing series here in the UK back in the early 90’s. Still see the old race cars come up for sale every now & then- would make for a fabulous track car on a minimal budget. Caged & with a decent suspension setup of course...
I do miss the fact that mine is the sohc, I may put in a TC one day from (most likely) a cabriolet as they seem to be the most economical choice for a donor but then originality of the car as it is now - hmm I will procrastinate about that for some time I think.

Yea there was a race car 216 on carandclassic for not too much money, a great purchase for someone.

JonnyVTEC said:
I put a twin cam in my Coupe, then wanted a bit more so swapped in a B16 out of a CRZ SiR.

Great car, loads of memories!
I was looking into the B16 swap myself a few days ago and it seems the engine spins the 'wrong way' for the rover and the gearbox is on the wrongside, couldn't really find any information about anyone who'd done the swap so assumed it wasn't viable, how did you overcome these issues? if they were issues.

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Usget

5,426 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Also interested in the B16 swap. Always wish Rover had made one of these. There was definitely room in the market for it after the CRX become a two-seater only. The 220 Tomcat turbo was a fabulous car.

It's a while since I've been into Rovers but wasn't it the case that the Honda engines and the K-series engines spun in opposite directions, rather than B vs. D series?

rossub

4,540 posts

192 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Usget said:
The 220 Tomcat turbo was a fabulous car.
Not sure I agree... it was fast in a straight line and looked nice, but that was about it. Mine also leaked like a sieve from everywhere.

LordGrover

33,556 posts

214 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Christ. I had a D reg 216 EFI Vanden Plas way back when... one of my first company cars.
Mostly liked it at the time, but it wasn't very good at anything, at all.
Best of luck.

Usget

5,426 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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rossub said:
Not sure I agree... it was fast in a straight line and looked nice, but that was about it. Mine also leaked like a sieve from everywhere.
Maybe rose tinted specs. Did a long trip round the Lake District and Yorkshire in my mate's one about ten years ago. Fast, lovely interior, great seats, felt "special". On the downide it had no brakes whatsoever. I'd still have one if one came up in good nick... and then probably immediately regret my purchase hehe

squareflops

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Tuesday 19th December 2017
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LordGrover said:
Christ. I had a D reg 216 EFI Vanden Plas way back when... one of my first company cars.
Mostly liked it at the time, but it wasn't very good at anything, at all.
Best of luck.
That was the older wedge shape from memory? My mum had a 213/4? Vanden Plas when I was very young, I assumed the VP moniker meant it was some sort of Mercedes rival and bragged about it to my mates. In hindsight I realise we were very poor hehe