mk4 golf GTTDi
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falkster said:
you have a s**ty S2 cab
It's not an S2 Cabriolet, it's a Coupe; They're very capable cars.falkster said:
and an old Range Rover....
The Range Rover is part of an ongoing feature (or at least that's how I understand it?) and they're also rather nice vehicles to plod around in.falkster said:
You could nearly say you were one of those people that bought a 2CV because you liked the image rather than the fact that its all you could afford!!
What? Has Garlick ever had a 2CV?ETA: For the record, Falkster; I think you've ruined a lovely E30 M3 with those daft wheels and number plates. I didn't say anything in the actual thread because of this ridiculous "If you haven't got anything nice to say" rule that all the newbies are trying to enforce, but seeing as you were a tad unreasonable about a pretty well established member's cars then maybe it's something you should know, just to balance it out a little. Maybe. Is that okay with you?
Edited by E36 on Thursday 3rd September 21:41
E36 said:
falkster said:
you have a s**ty S2 cab
It's not an S2 Cabriolet, it's a Coupe; They're very capable cars.falkster said:
and an old Range Rover....
The Range Rover is part of an ongoing feature (or at least that's how I understand it?) and they're also rather nice vehicles to plod around in.falkster said:
You could nearly say you were one of those people that bought a 2CV because you liked the image rather than the fact that its all you could afford!!
What? Has Garlick ever had a 2CV?ETA: For the record, Falkster; I think you've ruined a lovely E30 M3 with those daft wheels and number plates. I didn't say anything in the actual thread because of this ridiculous "If you haven't got anything nice to say" rule that all the newbies are trying to enforce, but seeing as you were a tad unreasonable about a pretty well established member's cars then maybe it's something you should know, just to balance it out a little. Maybe. Is that okay with you?
Edited by E36 on Thursday 3rd September 21:41
Again that is your opinion, the E30 M3 was built to race and the race cars had 18" alloys on but had 15/16" alloys for the road going versions....the alloys (from my point of view) were to update the car as the original alloys were only 15 inch and dont suit the car in a modern world (as someone mentioned earlier PH was accepting cars that had mods that were to enhance its performance or look).
I never said he had owned a 2CV but said he was that sort of person to have one as he couldnt afford to have any real sports car that would be accepted on PH.
Im not slightly concerned about peoples thoughts about any of my cars......Boxster S being a poor mans Porsche, MX5 Mk3 being a hair dressers cars and my E30 M3 has been ruined to death with my mods!!
Keep 'em coming cos Im worried!!
Edited by falkster on Thursday 3rd September 21:51
OnTheOverrun said:
falkster said:
jimmyb said:
You do know who Garlick is right??
Judge jury and executioner!!
Just incase you were unaware.
No I dont know who he is, is he mean't to be some sort of person that would worry me?? I think not!Judge jury and executioner!!
Just incase you were unaware.
falkster said:
I never said he had owned a 2CV but said he was that sort of person to have one as he couldnt afford to have any real sports car that would be accepted on PH.
But... He does have a proper sports car, and it is accepted on PH. I would also expect you to know that the value of a car is largely irrelevant in the argument of whether it's good or not, owning an MX5 and all.You'll notice, by the way, that none of the stereotypes of the cars you own (poor man's Porsche, MX5 is gay etc) are accepted on here because we appreciate them for what they are; Good cars.
falkster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
falkster said:
jimmyb said:
You do know who Garlick is right??
Judge jury and executioner!!
Just incase you were unaware.
No I dont know who he is, is he mean't to be some sort of person that would worry me?? I think not!Judge jury and executioner!!
Just incase you were unaware.
I was just amused that after more than two years you were unaware of whose forum you were posting on.
So would this be the ultimate Euro Look Tyre?
For the record this was driven by someone who didn't even realise they had a puncture and had been followed for 10miles down a dual carriage way...
Too much heat had built up and the brake disc disintegrated...
Exception circumstances but goes to show what can happen. There are several areas of a car that I should be taken very seriously
- Steering & Suspension
- Brakes
- Wheels and Tyres
All of these contribute to your ability to control and stop the vehicle; and of course in how it handles.
I deleted my previous comments as I felt they were unfair so instead could you answer me a couple of questions to help me understand why people such as yourself feel that it is necessary to change the look of the car:
1) Why, when you have bought a Brand in this case VW but could easily be a Saxo, you decide to debadge it?
2) If you don't like the look of the car then why didn't you choose a lesser known brand to modify like LeePoo from ChipShop
3) Is that a full size legal number plate?
Just my curiosity as I feel a bit thick and cannot comprehend - especially as my previous car was a 2001 GTTDI 130 (European Import) and it never looked like that...where does the phrase "EURO LOOK" come from.
For the record this was driven by someone who didn't even realise they had a puncture and had been followed for 10miles down a dual carriage way...
Too much heat had built up and the brake disc disintegrated...
Exception circumstances but goes to show what can happen. There are several areas of a car that I should be taken very seriously
- Steering & Suspension
- Brakes
- Wheels and Tyres
All of these contribute to your ability to control and stop the vehicle; and of course in how it handles.
I deleted my previous comments as I felt they were unfair so instead could you answer me a couple of questions to help me understand why people such as yourself feel that it is necessary to change the look of the car:
1) Why, when you have bought a Brand in this case VW but could easily be a Saxo, you decide to debadge it?
2) If you don't like the look of the car then why didn't you choose a lesser known brand to modify like LeePoo from ChipShop
3) Is that a full size legal number plate?
Just my curiosity as I feel a bit thick and cannot comprehend - especially as my previous car was a 2001 GTTDI 130 (European Import) and it never looked like that...where does the phrase "EURO LOOK" come from.
bigburd said:
So would this be the ultimate Euro Look Tyre?
For the record this was driven by someone who didn't even realise they had a puncture and had been followed for 10miles down a dual carriage way...
Too much heat had built up and the brake disc disintegrated...
Exception circumstances but goes to show what can happen. There are several areas of a car that I should be taken very seriously
- Steering & Suspension
- Brakes
- Wheels and Tyres
All of these contribute to your ability to control and stop the vehicle; and of course in how it handles.
I deleted my previous comments as I felt they were unfair so instead could you answer me a couple of questions to help me understand why people such as yourself feel that it is necessary to change the look of the car:
1) Why, when you have bought a Brand in this case VW but could easily be a Saxo, you decide to debadge it?
2) If you don't like the look of the car then why didn't you choose a lesser known brand to modify like LeePoo from ChipShop
3) Is that a full size legal number plate?
Just my curiosity as I feel a bit thick and cannot comprehend - especially as my previous car was a 2001 GTTDI 130 (European Import) and it never looked like that...where does the phrase "EURO LOOK" come from.
Very good post this, of course it will be ignored / batted away by the clowns who see tyre stretching as a 'mint mod mate'.For the record this was driven by someone who didn't even realise they had a puncture and had been followed for 10miles down a dual carriage way...
Too much heat had built up and the brake disc disintegrated...
Exception circumstances but goes to show what can happen. There are several areas of a car that I should be taken very seriously
- Steering & Suspension
- Brakes
- Wheels and Tyres
All of these contribute to your ability to control and stop the vehicle; and of course in how it handles.
I deleted my previous comments as I felt they were unfair so instead could you answer me a couple of questions to help me understand why people such as yourself feel that it is necessary to change the look of the car:
1) Why, when you have bought a Brand in this case VW but could easily be a Saxo, you decide to debadge it?
2) If you don't like the look of the car then why didn't you choose a lesser known brand to modify like LeePoo from ChipShop
3) Is that a full size legal number plate?
Just my curiosity as I feel a bit thick and cannot comprehend - especially as my previous car was a 2001 GTTDI 130 (European Import) and it never looked like that...where does the phrase "EURO LOOK" come from.
Your post should be stickied and stretched tyres should be stickied up the owners freshly stretched anus.
OnTheOverrun said:
alock said:
A quick Google search shows this discussion happening in many other places. Some have gone to the trouble of contacting tyre manufacturers for their views:
Nah. It's perfectly safe. Greendubber said so.Goodyear said:
The BTMA is becoming increasingly concerned at the number of cars on British roads where the tyres fitted are too narrow for the wheel rim widths or conversely the wheel rims are too wide for the tyres. (Often referred to as the “Euro Look”) This trend is believed to be a fashion statement, but leads to courts a potentially very hazardous and serious risks into road safety.
Continental said:
In reply to your e-mail regarding the practice of fitting tyres to wide rims, we would strongly recomend against it. We have seen similar photographs of low profile tyres fitted to rims wider than the recomended rim fitment, and would go so far as to say that it's positively dangerous, because the tyre cannot flex as it would under normal conditions, and therefore cannot respond properly when cornering.
Greendubber said:
OnTheOverrun said:
alock said:
A quick Google search shows this discussion happening in many other places. Some have gone to the trouble of contacting tyre manufacturers for their views:
Nah. It's perfectly safe. Greendubber said so.Goodyear said:
The BTMA is becoming increasingly concerned at the number of cars on British roads where the tyres fitted are too narrow for the wheel rim widths or conversely the wheel rims are too wide for the tyres. (Often referred to as the “Euro Look”) This trend is believed to be a fashion statement, but leads to courts a potentially very hazardous and serious risks into road safety.
Continental said:
In reply to your e-mail regarding the practice of fitting tyres to wide rims, we would strongly recomend against it. We have seen similar photographs of low profile tyres fitted to rims wider than the recomended rim fitment, and would go so far as to say that it's positively dangerous, because the tyre cannot flex as it would under normal conditions, and therefore cannot respond properly when cornering.
tossbag said:
Greendubber said:
OnTheOverrun said:
alock said:
A quick Google search shows this discussion happening in many other places. Some have gone to the trouble of contacting tyre manufacturers for their views:
Nah. It's perfectly safe. Greendubber said so.Goodyear said:
The BTMA is becoming increasingly concerned at the number of cars on British roads where the tyres fitted are too narrow for the wheel rim widths or conversely the wheel rims are too wide for the tyres. (Often referred to as the “Euro Look”) This trend is believed to be a fashion statement, but leads to courts a potentially very hazardous and serious risks into road safety.
Continental said:
In reply to your e-mail regarding the practice of fitting tyres to wide rims, we would strongly recomend against it. We have seen similar photographs of low profile tyres fitted to rims wider than the recomended rim fitment, and would go so far as to say that it's positively dangerous, because the tyre cannot flex as it would under normal conditions, and therefore cannot respond properly when cornering.
As for calling them idiots you couldnt be further from the truth, however you can have your opinion on it.
Greendubber said:
tossbag said:
Greendubber said:
OnTheOverrun said:
alock said:
A quick Google search shows this discussion happening in many other places. Some have gone to the trouble of contacting tyre manufacturers for their views:
Nah. It's perfectly safe. Greendubber said so.Goodyear said:
The BTMA is becoming increasingly concerned at the number of cars on British roads where the tyres fitted are too narrow for the wheel rim widths or conversely the wheel rims are too wide for the tyres. (Often referred to as the “Euro Look”) This trend is believed to be a fashion statement, but leads to courts a potentially very hazardous and serious risks into road safety.
Continental said:
In reply to your e-mail regarding the practice of fitting tyres to wide rims, we would strongly recomend against it. We have seen similar photographs of low profile tyres fitted to rims wider than the recomended rim fitment, and would go so far as to say that it's positively dangerous, because the tyre cannot flex as it would under normal conditions, and therefore cannot respond properly when cornering.
As for calling them idiots you couldnt be further from the truth, however you can have your opinion on it.
My opinion is you have no professional experience in the field of tyres / tyre stretching even though you say you do. That is my opinion, my opinion in that you are a liar.
If you want a fact, here is a fact: Any product that is not used as it is designed to be used is not a good idea. If I filled an old lemonade bottle with bleach - bad idea. If I stretch tyres over rims - bad idea.
If you can prove to me that tyre stretching is not only recommended by tyre manufacturers, but also has been tested and proven to be safe by the relevant regulatory bodies then I will gladly retract these two statements:
1) You do not and have never worked in an environment that has relevant status to theoretically decide whether stretched tyres are or are not safe for use on the road.
2) Stretched tyres are not safe for the road in any circumstance.
Is that easy enough?
Edited by tossbag on Friday 4th September 02:20
falkster said:
jimmyb said:
You do know who Garlick is right??
Judge jury and executioner!!
Just incase you were unaware.
No I dont know who he is, is he mean't to be some sort of person that would worry me?? I think not!Judge jury and executioner!!
Just incase you were unaware.
His post was not an attack on anyone it was actually an attempt to clear things up so thread went back on topic.
Curry Burns said:
Ah the usual 'What's your thoughts', but 'I actually don't want to hear anything negative about my car'
I have seen and been in arguments like this before and the above is usually correct.
Your car is your car and what you do to it is your own doing.
Personally your car is horrid....imo of course.
Bloody hell, Curry Burns is RIGHT! I have seen and been in arguments like this before and the above is usually correct.
Your car is your car and what you do to it is your own doing.
Personally your car is horrid....imo of course.
The wheels and tyres are stupid, the position lights on the front bumpers look out of place, its not an Alfa, why put the front reg there? Did you forget to get the grille colour matched? What is the long silver or white thing hanging from the rear view mirror too?
This lot sound alright:
Remapped
Eibach Prostreet S Coilovers
Turbo back S/S Milltek
K&N Filter
But, why waste your cash changing things like light clusters, mirrors and bumpers to ones that look a little bit different if you know what your looking for, but to most people are no different?
I am genuinely interested, and everything i've said is IMO. Congrats on building a car only the owner will like though, because thats what its all about really.
falkster said:
Sorry thought it was a cab!!! My mistake...hardtop...just as bad!!! 6k tops!!!
I was going to list my car history, but as you have missed the point of my post I won't bother. I'll go and look for a Saturday job to supplement my meagre income though, just so that I can buy a better car
Anyway, as you were.
this thread.tossbag said:
Greendubber said:
tossbag said:
Greendubber said:
OnTheOverrun said:
alock said:
A quick Google search shows this discussion happening in many other places. Some have gone to the trouble of contacting tyre manufacturers for their views:
Nah. It's perfectly safe. Greendubber said so.Goodyear said:
The BTMA is becoming increasingly concerned at the number of cars on British roads where the tyres fitted are too narrow for the wheel rim widths or conversely the wheel rims are too wide for the tyres. (Often referred to as the “Euro Look”) This trend is believed to be a fashion statement, but leads to courts a potentially very hazardous and serious risks into road safety.
Continental said:
In reply to your e-mail regarding the practice of fitting tyres to wide rims, we would strongly recomend against it. We have seen similar photographs of low profile tyres fitted to rims wider than the recomended rim fitment, and would go so far as to say that it's positively dangerous, because the tyre cannot flex as it would under normal conditions, and therefore cannot respond properly when cornering.
As for calling them idiots you couldnt be further from the truth, however you can have your opinion on it.
My opinion is you have no professional experience in the field of tyres / tyre stretching even though you say you do. That is my opinion, my opinion in that you are a liar.
If you want a fact, here is a fact: Any product that is not used as it is designed to be used is not a good idea. If I filled an old lemonade bottle with bleach - bad idea. If I stretch tyres over rims - bad idea.
If you can prove to me that tyre stretching is not only recommended by tyre manufacturers, but also has been tested and proven to be safe by the relevant regulatory bodies then I will gladly retract these two statements:
1) You do not and have never worked in an environment that has relevant status to theoretically decide whether stretched tyres are or are not safe for use on the road.
2) Stretched tyres are not safe for the road in any circumstance.
Is that easy enough?
Edited by tossbag on Friday 4th September 02:20
I said we never had any issues with people running stretch on tyres....but you feel free to keep on ranting about it if you want. I'm bored of you.
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