1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe 1800
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Breadvan72 said:
Yes lovely especially from that from three-quarter angle.Seems a very reasonable price for what is a very rare car....
Almost too good to be true possibly...
Hmmm
Breadvan72 said:
The Fiat appears to have attracted the attention of the World's most incontinent pigeon who has recently eaten the World's biggest curry. Maybe he just really hates Italian cars.
What makes this odder is that some of the nastiness, piled centimetres deep on the roof, appeared also to have been smeared by (I assume) human hand across the windscreen, and also appeared to have been danced in on roof and bonnet by a cat who likes scat.
I have chucked a bucket of water over the car, and moved it to sit underneath another tree, hoping that the pigeon is bone idle and likes to stay in the same tree. The cat is just a weirdo. A visit to some local hard working Romanians, who may or may not be innocent tools of money launderers, may be in order later today.
We live miles from the coast and it’s the bloody seagulls which dive bomb the cars here..What makes this odder is that some of the nastiness, piled centimetres deep on the roof, appeared also to have been smeared by (I assume) human hand across the windscreen, and also appeared to have been danced in on roof and bonnet by a cat who likes scat.
I have chucked a bucket of water over the car, and moved it to sit underneath another tree, hoping that the pigeon is bone idle and likes to stay in the same tree. The cat is just a weirdo. A visit to some local hard working Romanians, who may or may not be innocent tools of money launderers, may be in order later today.
Edited by Breadvan72 on Monday 27th July 10:29
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t.P5BNij said:
Years ago when I lived in Paris I’d be required to fly down to Napoli every week or so to check on how the new ice cream packaging project was developing....long story.
Anyway all the major junctions in Napoli city centre we’re heavily policed and they were using armoured cars and other military grade stuff.
Wish I’d taken some photos.
If you could find a decent one would a Cinquecento work as a 1st car?
My BIL had one and my nephew liked it so much his 2nd car was one.
My sister briefly had a Sporting as a courtesy car which was a hoot to drive without being actually quick! For a few days there were 3 outside their house in white, black and red.
My BIL had one and my nephew liked it so much his 2nd car was one.
My sister briefly had a Sporting as a courtesy car which was a hoot to drive without being actually quick! For a few days there were 3 outside their house in white, black and red.
rjg48 said:
Fiat Barchetta for the young lady?
130hp 1.8.
That is another very silly suggestion. This will be a seventeen year old new driver. Has any of you the slightest idea how much insurance on a 1.8 litre lightweight sports car would be for a seventeen year old with a new licence? A clue: lots. 130hp 1.8.
Also, her mother will not allow her to drive a car that was designed over twenty years ago. Her mother is, I am very sorry to say, a Daily Mail reader, and is therefore very foolish and easily frightened.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 29th July 06:15
There is a 2000 ish Seicento for sale - very low mileage, but, again, my ex may regard that as too old. She obsessively reads the "EVERYTHING WILL KILL YOU" sections in the Daily Mail.
This was not always the way. I have photos of my ex when she was still a liberal minded, non xenophobic, well educated and life loving young woman, sitting in a 1977 Alfa Spider 2000 Veloce (the photos are from the 90s). Then she started reading the Mail. It has transformed her into a timid, frightened, borderline racist idiot who has no enjoyment of anything in life. She will insist that our daughter drives a tank with a 250 cc engine and 97 airbags.
This was not always the way. I have photos of my ex when she was still a liberal minded, non xenophobic, well educated and life loving young woman, sitting in a 1977 Alfa Spider 2000 Veloce (the photos are from the 90s). Then she started reading the Mail. It has transformed her into a timid, frightened, borderline racist idiot who has no enjoyment of anything in life. She will insist that our daughter drives a tank with a 250 cc engine and 97 airbags.
Breadvan72 said:
That is another very silly suggestion. This will be a seventeen year old new driver. Has any of you the slightest idea how much insurance on a 1.8 litre lightweight sports car would be for a seventeen year old with a new licence? A clue: lots.
Also, her mother will not allow her to drive a car that was designed over twenty years ago. Her mother is, I am very sorry to say, a Daily Mail reader, and is therefore very foolish and easily frightened.
Not to mention LHD.Also, her mother will not allow her to drive a car that was designed over twenty years ago. Her mother is, I am very sorry to say, a Daily Mail reader, and is therefore very foolish and easily frightened.
Edited by Breadvan72 on Wednesday 29th July 06:15
Breadvan72 said:
Panda 4x4 v good idea, ta, esp as my daughter mainly lives in muddy rural Norfolk.
Modern Fords are all BLAH.
I agree but then just went and bought this fiat tipo 1.4 wiith 31,000 miles on it - now debating internally whether to do something silly like throw in that 8v integrale engine sitting in my garage.Modern Fords are all BLAH.
gforceg said:
Breadvan72 said:
That is another very silly suggestion. This will be a seventeen year old new driver. Has any of you the slightest idea how much insurance on a 1.8 litre lightweight sports car would be for a seventeen year old with a new licence? A clue: lots.
Also, her mother will not allow her to drive a car that was designed over twenty years ago. Her mother is, I am very sorry to say, a Daily Mail reader, and is therefore very foolish and easily frightened.
Not to mention LHD.Also, her mother will not allow her to drive a car that was designed over twenty years ago. Her mother is, I am very sorry to say, a Daily Mail reader, and is therefore very foolish and easily frightened.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 29th July 06:15
OK, so I'm going to get flamed for saying this in this thread, but if you want something with modern safety and low insurance (low being relative for an 18 year old) then Citroen C3 is a good shout. Insurance costs reflect history and availability/repair costs, so if you get a car lots of young people drive (VW UP/Corsa/Ka) and crash the premiums are higher. C3's are mainstream, generally not driven by the "yoof", and there are plenty of one careful owner cars.
No they aren't special, but they are generally reliable, rustproof and have all of the safety kit - at that age you (OK, your wife) are more concerned that if they get in a scrape they survive, and they don't break down in the wee small hours on the way home.
I insured my then 17 year old daughter on a 1.1 with £3k value for £850 pa fully comp. (and added my son two years later - he hated the image but wheels are wheels - and it was £1250 pa for both of them).
No they aren't special, but they are generally reliable, rustproof and have all of the safety kit - at that age you (OK, your wife) are more concerned that if they get in a scrape they survive, and they don't break down in the wee small hours on the way home.
I insured my then 17 year old daughter on a 1.1 with £3k value for £850 pa fully comp. (and added my son two years later - he hated the image but wheels are wheels - and it was £1250 pa for both of them).
Thanks, that is very useful advice! I gather that the standard PH'er buys his or her 17 year old a heavily modified 8 litre V8 car tuned to 850 BHP, because it would of course be uncool to do otherwise, but I regret that I have to operate within the constraints set by budget and by the alarmist ignorance of my ex, so a boring European shopping car is the thing.
Anyway, back to the Fiat. Very smooth through light London traffic from sarf to norf at 0630 today. I may have picked up a red light ticket because I stopped to hand some dosh to a worryingly sick looking tramp, and then maybe bust the red light, as I was being honked by some hedge fund tt in a modern 911 behind me. Probably the 17 year old child of a PH'er who passed his test yesterday. Oh well, no good deed will go unpunished!
The Fiat was parked up next to my boring modern car last night. Photos in a minute.
Anyway, back to the Fiat. Very smooth through light London traffic from sarf to norf at 0630 today. I may have picked up a red light ticket because I stopped to hand some dosh to a worryingly sick looking tramp, and then maybe bust the red light, as I was being honked by some hedge fund t
t in a modern 911 behind me. Probably the 17 year old child of a PH'er who passed his test yesterday. Oh well, no good deed will go unpunished!The Fiat was parked up next to my boring modern car last night. Photos in a minute.
Breadvan72 said:
There is a 2000 ish Seicento for sale - very low mileage, but, again, my ex may regard that as too old. She obsessively reads the "EVERYTHING WILL KILL YOU" sections in the Daily Mail.
Seicentos are flimsy even by the standards of wet paper bags. I would rule out anything less robust than a current-shape Panda, which was all-new in 2011 so far less lethal in terms of overall design and available at pretty bargain-basement prices. Compared to the Seicento and the Cinquecento it was based on, which are on a 1991 platform, it is a Panzer III.Lowtimer said:
Seicentos are flimsy even by the standards of wet paper bags. I would rule out anything less robust than a current-shape Panda, which was all-new in 2011 so far less lethal in terms of overall design and available at pretty bargain-basement prices. Compared to the Seicento and the Cinquecento it was based on, which are on a 1991 platform, it is a Panzer III.
Cheers, top tipz.Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 29th July 15:21
Breadvan72 said:
gforceg said:
Breadvan72 said:
That is another very silly suggestion. This will be a seventeen year old new driver. Has any of you the slightest idea how much insurance on a 1.8 litre lightweight sports car would be for a seventeen year old with a new licence? A clue: lots.
Also, her mother will not allow her to drive a car that was designed over twenty years ago. Her mother is, I am very sorry to say, a Daily Mail reader, and is therefore very foolish and easily frightened.
Not to mention LHD.Also, her mother will not allow her to drive a car that was designed over twenty years ago. Her mother is, I am very sorry to say, a Daily Mail reader, and is therefore very foolish and easily frightened.
Edited by Breadvan72 on Wednesday 29th July 06:15
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